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Radagast
01-26-2002, 06:49 AM
During Gandalf's 'imprisonment' in Orthanc, he is saved by an eagle called Gwaihil the Windlord. The text runs something like this:- 'Gandalf! Forever doomed I am to carry you as a burden!'

This implies that he's carried Gandalf before. I was just wondering is this the same eagle that saved Gandalf, Thorin and Company from the incident with the Wargs in The Hobbit?
Lightice
01-26-2002, 07:52 AM
Gwahir the Windlord (it's r, not l) was indeed same Lord of Eagles, who appeared in Hobbit. And yes, he has carried Gandalf before. I guess, that he has carried him many times not mentioned anywhere.
In Silmarillion, there are Eagles of Manwë, whose descendants the Great Eagles seem to be.
Comic Book Guy
01-26-2002, 11:01 AM
Yes, Gwalir the Windlord was the Eagle that rescues Gandalf from the Tower of Orthanc, when it carried Gandalf to Mount Doom it says that it he shall have carried Gandalf thrice.
Nazgûl Queen
01-27-2002, 03:21 AM
It does indeed say that he shall have carried gandalf thrice at Mt Doom...
He carried him from Orthanc, then he carried him to lothlorien after the battle with the Balrog, then he carried him to Mordor to find frodo.

I dont think he carried Gandalf in the hobbit - he was the king and he sent his 15 chieftans to carry gandalf, bilbo and the 13 dwarves....

Correct me if I'm wrong
Earniel
01-27-2002, 12:53 PM
Seems like he was carrying that wizard around quite often. Lucky for Gandalf that Gwaihir didn't charge him for all that transporting!
EdBlackadder
01-27-2002, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by Nazgûl Queen
It does indeed say that he shall have carried gandalf thrice at Mt Doom...
He carried him from Orthanc, then he carried him to lothlorien after the battle with the Balrog, then he carried him to Mordor to find frodo.

I dont think he carried Gandalf in the hobbit - he was the king and he sent his 15 chieftans to carry gandalf, bilbo and the 13 dwarves....

Correct me if I'm wrong

If i'm right (although i can't find the ref i'm looking for), Gwaihir was the successor to the 'throne' of the King of the Eagles from the Hobbit. He was also one of the Eagles who was chraged with carrying Thorin and company.