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Foul_Dwimmerlaik
01-15-2002, 11:45 PM
For me, it's Hurin standing alone, surrounded by dead trolls, guarding the retreat of the Elves after the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, and screaming "Dawn will come again!" every time he slays. In a way Hurin redeems his entire race in that moment.
FrodoFriend
01-16-2002, 12:17 AM
Pretty much Turin's whole story. Especially when he finds out the truth about his wife, and the part where he kills Beleg.
noldorlord
01-16-2002, 09:11 AM
frodo friend is right. Turin is the most moving character in the book. I think the bit where he accidentally kills his best friend is really tragic though.
Sister Golden Hair
01-16-2002, 09:30 AM
I agree with the Turin Beleg scene. Also, I loved the part where Morwen and Hurin found each other again and they sat together until sundown and then she died. I thought Finrod's death was moving, because he died in Tol-in-gaurhoth, which at one point had been his own watch tower of Minus Tirith. That made it much more dramatic.
Sauron's Nagging Wife
01-16-2002, 06:21 PM
The death and burial of Finrod Felagund. The only part that makes me cry every time
"But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar."
Sister Golden Hair
01-16-2002, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by Sauron's Nagging Wife
The death and burial of Finrod Felagund. The only part that makes me cry every time
"But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar." Indeed. How sad and beautiful.
Renille
01-16-2002, 07:40 PM
I, also, think the Turin-Beleg thing was the absolute saddest. But his sister's death was sad, too.
bropous
01-17-2002, 12:17 PM
The Silmarillion is constructed of so many wonderfully touching scenes it is hard to find a favorite. However, using the "shed a tear" test, the one scene which did it for me on my last re-reading of the book was the scene where Fingolfin throws down his Kingship and rides off to challenge Morgoth the Bastige at the very gates of Angbad to mortal combat.
As he blows his horn and the hosts of Angbad quail, Fingolfin calls Morgoth a coward and craven and shames the Old Creep to come out and face him. Now, realistically, it's basically suicide, for the best Fingolfin can hope for is to slay Morgoth's physical form only, and Morgoth would continue to exist, while Fingolfin really has no hope of riding away from Thangorodrim alive. Even if he had slain Morgoth's physical form, the Balrogs probably would have poured out and ripped him to shreds.
It just tears my heart out as this incredibly brave yet headstrong Elf King fights Morgoth, Grond rending the ground around him, fighting hard in the face of utter hopelessness. Of all the scenes in this wonderfully written book, this one does it for me msot of all.
Sister Golden Hair
01-17-2002, 12:31 PM
Another moving seen for me, was the Death of Fingon.
Earniel
01-24-2002, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Sauron's Nagging Wife
The death and burial of Finrod Felagund. The only part that makes me cry every time
"But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar."
Yes, it's so sad! Although the death of Nienor Niniel is rather tragic too.
Captain Stern
01-24-2002, 07:22 PM
Although the death of Nienor Niniel is rather tragic too.
If she actualy died that is ;)
Earniel
01-25-2002, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by Captain Stern
If she actualy died that is ;)
Well she did, didn't she? At least I thought she did... didn't she?
Captain Stern
01-26-2002, 03:05 PM
Check the last line of the chapter:
But she was not there, nor was it ever known whither the cold waters of Teiglin had taken her.
Make of it what you will...
Finmandos12
01-26-2002, 03:33 PM
They meant her body, Stern. That's what I think.
Earniel
01-26-2002, 06:12 PM
Ah I see, that way. Well it is indeed open for interpretation.
markedel
01-26-2002, 08:11 PM
She is a mortal-no reason why she wouldn't die.
bropous
01-27-2002, 11:48 AM
Agreed, markedel, and welcome to the Moot. She was simply mortal and would not have had the "Doom" of the second children of Iluvatar set aside. Besides, although she lived through greivous hurts heaped upon an innocent, she hadn't really done anything of worth to have been taken to the Undying Lands. At least I don't read anything into the fact her body was not found, just that it was a tragic mystery.
Curufinwe
02-08-2002, 04:57 PM
The rescue of Maedhros by Fingon from the heights of Thangorodrim by slicing off his hand. Also the mocking of Melkor Morgoth in Angband by Hurin.
Finrod Felagund
02-22-2002, 03:29 PM
I have to say there are lots of moving scenes. The death of Finrod IN THE DUNGEON THAT HE BUILT, to save Beren, the meeting of Morwen and Hurin at their son's tomb on the day of Morwen's death. Fingon going to save Maehdros even after the kinslaying and ship burning is truly noble.
Findegil
02-22-2002, 04:19 PM
My vote for Húrin's last stand. It was and still is for me the most moving scene in the bock.
Regards
Findegil
Bacchus
02-23-2002, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Captain Stern
Check the last line of the chapter:
But she was not there, nor was it ever known whither the cold waters of Teiglin had taken her.
Make of it what you will...
The key to this passage is the word "whither", which means "where". Thus the passage could have read "...nor was it ever known where the cold waters of Teiglin had taken her."
Celebripaur
02-25-2002, 01:40 AM
For myself any one of the kinslayings would qualify as a tear jerker. Perhaps it's because this is the dark side of the Elven history that non-elves have little or no knowledge of. The kin slayings represent the 'human' side of the 'noble elves' that mortals tend to glorify.
The slaying at Aqualonde perhaps is the most heart wrenching as it represents the one act that forever stains the Noldorin people and devides them from their best allies in Beleriand. It dooms the house of Feanor and all who follow him back to Middle Earth.
Ozymandias
02-26-2002, 02:52 AM
The story of Turin & Niniel floored me the last time I read it.
Finrod Felagund
02-26-2002, 03:33 PM
I love the art where Turgon, coming to the battle unexpectedly, meets his brother Fingon and friwend Hurin in the middle of battle and for a moment there is gladness in the midst of war.
Finrod Felagund
02-26-2002, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Finrod Felagund
I love the part where Turgon, coming to the battle unexpectedly, meets his brother Fingon and friend Hurin in the middle of battle and for a moment there is gladness in the midst of war.
Foul_Dwimmerlaik
02-26-2002, 03:36 PM
And then Hurin tells Turgon that as long as he and his people are alive Morgoth will know fear, so get outta here, I got your back. Awesome.
Finrod Felagund
02-26-2002, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by Foul_Dwimmerlaik
For me, it's Hurin standing alone, surrounded by dead trolls, guarding the retreat of the Elves after the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, and screaming "Dawn will come again!" every time he slays. In a way Hurin redeems his entire race in that moment.
Finrod Felagund
02-26-2002, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Sauron's Nagging Wife
The death and burial of Finrod Felagund.
"But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar."
Finrod Felagund
02-26-2002, 03:40 PM
And, Foul Dwimmelaik, Hurin is then taken by Morgoth after slaying most of Gothmog's body guard.
The rest of his people are killed and he still basically spits in Morgoth's face.
Of course he was said to be the greatest of all warriors of men, even before his son Turin.
:eek:
While reading it for the third time, I get really heartbroken at the part where Fëanor hardens his heart against the Valar and leads the Noldor out of Valinor, which brings forth first the kinslaying and all the troubles of the Noldor in Middle Earth.
Of course, way up there is the whole section on Turin Turambar and the aforementioned battle where Hurin was finally overcome and captured.
Khadrane
03-02-2002, 11:51 PM
I love the part where Hurin stands alone with his battleaxe and fights of all those orcs. That part is awesome. I also liked the whole Beren and Luthien part. That was awesome too.
Finrod Felagund
04-17-2002, 10:34 AM
Fingon when Turgon shows up at the Nirnaeth:
The day has come! Behold people of the Eldar and sons of men, the day has come!
All the warhost
The Night is passing!
and then Hurin, the last standing
Day shall come again!
WOW!
Finrod Felagund
04-19-2002, 02:38 PM
I love that!
Blackheart
04-19-2002, 04:00 PM
Well, the Narn is unarguably the best story in the Silmarrilion as it stands...
There's so much to choose from.
But if I just had to go for a particular scene, then I'd actually go for the death of Azaghâl, the dwarf lord from Belegost.
After they whacked on Glaurung and their lord fell, they just picked him up and marched off.
And wadn't nooo body gonna F wif dem.
Tar-Elendil
04-21-2002, 06:54 PM
the whole story of beren and Lúthien is by far the most moving for me. Beren daring to steal a silmaril from the very crown of Morgoth for the approval of marriage from thingol to Beren. gets me everytime;)
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