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Michael Martinez
05-11-2001, 07:29 PM
I received an email this morning @#%$ a disturbing topic. An apparently well-known Italian journalist reporting @#%$ Cannes has associated Tolkien @#%$ @#%$ Lord @#%$ @#%$ Rings @#%$ Nazism. Her views are not universally shared. @#%$ though @#%$ may seem @#%$ some that Italian Tolkien fans could deal @#%$ this, @#%$ reasons not made clear @#%$ me, I was included @#%$ a distribution asking @#%$ general support @#%$ fans world wide.

After giving @#%$ matter some thought, I posted @#%$ following @#%$ Xenite.Org's Middle-earth mailing list a short while ago. I'm reposting this @#%$ a number @#%$ mailing lists @#%$ forums I participate @#%$ or lurk @#%$.


Okay,

I have read @#%$ email @#%$ I have looked @#%$ @#%$ Web sites @#%$ I have come @#%$ @#%$ realization that...I don't read Italian. I honestly have no idea @#%$ what @#%$ do about this. Is @#%$ worth generating a huge furor over? Maybe. I'm not sure that blasting Natalia Aspesi @#%$ calling Tolkien's book "A little bit Naziskin" is @#%$ answer.

Her original article is posted here:

www.repubblica.@#%$/quoti...pesi2.html (http://www.repubblica.@#%$/quotidiano/repubblica/20010511/spettacoli/60aspesi2.html)

Will flooding @#%$ Web @#%$ outrage garner a retraction? I have no idea. How big are these guys who have taken up Tolkien's cause? I have no idea.

Still, much as I'm tempted @#%$ sit @#%$ @#%$ whole thing, I really don't have @#%$ right @#%$ decide @#%$ @#%$ rest @#%$ you whether @#%$ launch @#%$ ships @#%$ war or not. @#%$ maybe all @#%$ other big Tolkien fan sites have been contacted anyway.

I tried @#%$ read a translation @#%$ @#%$ Aspesi article. Unfortunately, online translators don't do a very good job.


@#%$: "Robert Bernocchi"
Subject: @#%$ Lord @#%$ @#%$ Rings is a nazi book???
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 17:13:09 +0200

Today (11/5/2001) @#%$ very important italian newspaper La Repubblica published an article @#%$ @#%$ Cannes Film Festival @#%$ big Italian journalist Natalia Aspesi who insulted: 1) @#%$ memory @#%$ J.R.R. Tolkien 2) his best literary work @#%$ Lord @#%$ @#%$ Rings 3) @#%$ huge mass @#%$ fans who, @#%$ each part @#%$ @#%$ Earth, love this book since its first edition @#%$ 1956.

Writing about @#%$ LOTR Cannes Day Natalia Aspesi used these words: &this fantasy saga, A LITTLE BIT NAZISKIN, written @#%$ @#%$ English philologist J.R. Talkien (you read @#%$ right, she wrote J.R. Talkien, N.d.R.) whose book, @#%$ his celtic mythology passion, will be used @#%$ @#%$ formigonbossiane schools (Formigoni @#%$ Bossi are two conservative Italian politicians who want, especially Bossi, @#%$ separate Lombardia country @#%$ @#%$ rest @#%$ Italian nation. Bossi is a friend @#%$ Austrian politician filo-nazist Haider, N.d.R.) as basis text . We suppose that Natalia Aspesi didn t read @#%$ book. @#%$ article is full @#%$ other mistakes as Jan McKellen instead @#%$ Ian McKellen @#%$ wickednesses as describing Liv Tyler as fat @#%$ LOTR fans as a sort @#%$ maniac, psychopathic persons who will go crazy if @#%$ costumes @#%$ @#%$ movie won t be @#%$ same described @#%$ @#%$ three books. She attacks also @#%$ New Line budget strategy. Can you imagine anything more offensive?

@#%$ now we are @#%$ only journalists who took position against Aspesi words @#%$ our LOTR Italian site (www.caltanet.@#%$/frm/cin...ndice.htm) (http://www.caltanet.@#%$/frm/cinema/home.html?../../html_pag/spettacolo/cinema/eventi/signoreanelli_indice.htm)) @#%$ an article @#%$ our director Francesco Alò. Aspesi is one @#%$ @#%$ biggest Italian journalist @#%$ La Repubblica is @#%$ second Italian newspaper @#%$ readers @#%$ sales.

If you want @#%$ protest @#%$ us, please publish this mail @#%$ invite your readers @#%$ send their opinion @#%$ our dedicated e-mail address tolkien@caltanet.@#%$. We will collect all @#%$ letters @#%$ we ll write @#%$ La Repubblica . Please join us.

Robert Bernocchi, web journalist

Michael Martinez
05-11-2001, 07:32 PM
I have never seen a message become so corrupted before. I'm sorry. I don't know what went wrong. All my attempts @#%$ edit @#%$ message have failed.

Michael Martinez
05-11-2001, 08:08 PM
Try this:
www3.tolkienonline.com/docs/2565.html (http://www3.tolkienonline.com/docs/2565.html)

Darth Tater
05-11-2001, 08:34 PM
LOL, sorry Michael, that would be my fault, I'm playing a bit @#%$ a practical joke @#%$ young @#%$ Milder @#%$, well, everyone else

added:
That article really is terrible. However, we have @#%$ expect that sorta thing. After all, LOTR is gonna dominate @#%$ movie news @#%$ @#%$ least @#%$ next three years, @#%$ along @#%$ everything good written about Tolkien @#%$ his works, we're gonna see a lot @#%$ junk like that.

bmilder
05-11-2001, 09:13 PM
Sorry, I'm not sure if Tater is sixteen or six ;) . He was apparently testing out the profanity filter today.

The regular words will stay if you try to re-edit your post now.

Darth Tater
05-12-2001, 01:53 PM
I'm a bad wittle boy ;)

Mace McClain
05-12-2001, 02:01 PM
It definatley appears that way;)

easterlinge
05-15-2001, 10:45 PM
And I thought Martinez is finally off his rocker.. :lol:

easterlinge
05-21-2001, 07:48 AM
Hmmm... I'm the moderator. I could do something. Nahh... Let Tater have a bit of fun.

How did he do it though? Oh, he's probably an admin.

So maybe he'll just override me if I do something....

But who minds?

anduin
05-21-2001, 12:06 PM
There is no way to fix it except for MM to repost.

Tater went into his control center and added everyday words to the profanity filter.

It was funny at first because it only affected small posts of no real significance.

Don't worry, Tater was swifty punished....we tied him to a chair and forced him to watch 24 hours of Barney.

Perisil
05-21-2001, 08:36 PM
NOOOOOOOOOO anything but that!!! :eek:
Talk about cruel and unusual punishment, what is this the dark ages, how do you sleep at night?

anduin
05-21-2001, 10:20 PM
With my stuffed Barney of course. ;)

Apologies to MM for the state of this thread.