Anyone else shead a tear? [Archive]

ragamuffin92

01-11-2002, 04:22 PM

I also get a little misty when Sam returns home at the end. I have heard that the movie doesn't cover the return to the Shire, I guess we'll all be spared this scene, as well as having to watch Frodo become ill every March 13th; and I don't even want to THINK about having to watch the scene when Frodo, Bilbo, Gandalf, Galadriel, and Elrond depart the Grey Havens, after having said goodbye to Sam, Merry and Pippen.

IMHO, the most moving scene in the film was the death scene of Boromir. In second place comes Sam and Frodo's interaction as they take off together in the final scene. IMHO, Boromir's scene could not have been done better, even if it had included the lament sung by Strider, Gimli, and Legolas. There was nothing fancy about it, just GREAT acting and terrific scriptwriting. I've seen it twice and got teary both times. And I'm prepared to get teary again when I see it tomorrow night. :)
I was concerned that the relationship between Frodo and Samwise would be corrupted--either made to be too shallow or too fawning, but they did a great job there, too. Messers Astin and Wood are just terrific.
And I ALMOST cried when the cave troll died, only because he reminded me a little of King Kong or Mighty Joe Young. :rolleyes: Well, maybe not.

Play Girl

01-11-2002, 04:30 PM

sniffle sob sniff *wipes nose on sleeve*
Well I always cry when Sam goes off into Mordor on his own and then when he relises that his master is still alive. I once cryed when Frodo is found again by Sam - I was so happy! I find the end rather emotionaly draining rather than sad. Life goes on and there is nothing the Hobbits can do to stop it no matter how hard they try.
sniff
A tearful Play Girl

samwise of the shire

01-11-2002, 07:01 PM

I cry my eyes out when Sam finally realizes that Mr Frodo is leaving Middle Earth and that he wont be seeing him again for awhile, but then I REALLY cry when I realize this is the last time that Merry and Pippin will be seeing him and he them. It's making ME cry even now. But you should have seen my little borthers face when I read him the part where Sam thinks Frodo is dead.
His face fell like three feet and he whispered"What?Frodo dies?"
And if I'm being REALLY emotional I cry when Sam thinks Frodo is dead and is laying him to rest. And when he kisses Frodo brow before putting his head on the ground is just almost too much for me. And my heart almost breaks when Frodo starts to CRAWL up the mountain. I keep on saying to myself"if Elijah Wood does such a good job in ROTK at being really weakend and hurt as he did in FOTR then you're going to be drowing the audience"
Sam

ragamuffin92

01-11-2002, 07:07 PM

Maybe we should start a group called "The Fellowship of the Blubberers." :( uhhh, I mean :)

Laifalasiel

01-11-2002, 10:20 PM

I was in tears during Theoden's death in ROTK, and when Sam Discovers Frodo is still alive in TT. As for the movie, Boromirs death really touched me like I didn't expect it to. I was frozen to my seat, clad in a hobbit costume trying so hard to keep from crying. It didn't work too well.

Nenya

01-12-2002, 11:53 AM

Personally, I usually cry all the way through the Grey Havens chapter. There are bits all the way through that make me cry. Last night, I finished LotR again for the 22nd time, and was busy cryiing my eyes out when my fiance turned up to take me out. he thought it was hilarious, but then again, he refers to LOtR as "that fantasy **** you read". Oh well...I guess I'm not going to get my LotR theme wedding!

KGamgee

01-12-2002, 07:05 PM

Umm... I cry at the end of the book, when Sam thinks Frodos dead, when Sam finds out Frodo's NOT dead (happy tears) and about 50 other times.
If you start Fellowship of the Blubberers, let me know:D
~KGamgee~

EdBlackadder

01-12-2002, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by ragamuffin92
I also get a little misty when Sam returns home at the end. I have heard that the movie doesn't cover the return to the Shire, I guess we'll all be spared this scene, as well as having to watch Frodo become ill every March 13th; and I don't even want to THINK about having to watch the scene when Frodo, Bilbo, Gandalf, Galadriel, and Elrond depart the Grey Havens, after having said goodbye to Sam, Merry and Pippen.

IMHO, the most moving scene in the film was the death scene of Boromir. In second place comes Sam and Frodo's interaction as they take off together in the final scene. IMHO, Boromir's scene could not have been done better, even if it had included the lament sung by Strider, Gimli, and Legolas. There was nothing fancy about it, just GREAT acting and terrific scriptwriting. I've seen it twice and got teary both times. And I'm prepared to get teary again when I see it tomorrow night. :)
I was concerned that the relationship between Frodo and Samwise would be corrupted--either made to be too shallow or too fawning, but they did a great job there, too. Messers Astin and Wood are just terrific.
And I ALMOST cried when the cave troll died, only because he reminded me a little of King Kong or Mighty Joe Young. :rolleyes: Well, maybe not.

I'll cry if they cut out this!

ragamuffin92

01-12-2002, 07:37 PM

And I'll cry if they leave it in!! :D

Nazgûl Queen

01-12-2002, 08:35 PM

Yeah...
There are soo many sad parts!

*Where Gandalf falls into Moria
*Where Boromir Dies
*Where Frodo is stung
*Where, on Mount Doom, Frodo and Sam hold hands and just lie down together and wait for death to come to them.
*Where the Ringbearers leave for the Havens

And many more!

ragamuffin92

01-12-2002, 08:57 PM

When you think about it, almost all of the Silmarillion and the trilogy is sad. Right from the beginning, Morgoth and Shelob's great-great-great-great-etc grandmother kill the trees, Feanor and his people rebel, the elves kill each other, etc. Later on, Numenor sinks, elves, men, and and dwarves don't trust each other, some humans follow Morgoth. The whole history of men and elves, especially the tales about Beren and Luthien and the Silmarils, the saga of Turin Turumbar and his family. The list goes on and on.
In the trilogy, the entwives are missing, the dwarves are dwindling, the elves are losing their desire to remain in Middle Earth. The whole thing is tragic, in a lot of ways. I noticed this more in my most recent read-through. Coincidentally, I was reading the TT during the Sept 11 attack on NYC (about 40 miles from my home). I drew a definite emotional parallel between what the terrorists did and what Sauron and Saruman were doing to the people of Middle Earth. For all the wonderful things in Professor T's creation, it can also be a tough read.

Gimly

01-13-2002, 10:46 AM

The most :( part in the movie was, strangely, wher, at Revendell, everybody was fighting and shouting and then Frodo got up and said that he'll take the ring. It was so sad... Boromir's death was touching too, with those three arrows "RUN!!!" he shouted... :(

lorien

01-14-2002, 05:35 PM

I cried when I realized that Frodo and the other Ring bearers wouldn't be back, they were dead for the Middle Earth.
Tears come to my eyes each time I imagine the boats disappearing in the grey sea. It's the most beautiful and sad metaphor of death I've ever read.
Lorien:)

Elfstone.

01-15-2002, 02:46 PM

Sorry bout bringing around all your tears again, its' just where i live no one is in to LOTR cept for my dad who i refer to as the master, he has read it twice a year since he was 17 hes now 45 you do the math, HE IS THE MASTER. Him and I are the only ones that connect with it, so sorry again but i had to know if there were other intelligent people out there who are able to admit to there emotions also. ;)

Happy hunting and i'm bringing a frikin kleenex box to the next to movies.

Elfstone err
Crybaby ELfstone

ragamuffin92

01-15-2002, 03:00 PM

Don't be sorry--that's what boards like this are for. Ain't it great!! :D

Earniel

01-15-2002, 05:04 PM

I think I know how you feel Elfstone. My parents and sister have all read the book, seen the movie, but to them, that's that. The only one i know who goes a bit further than that is an old friend of mine. But she's always so incredibly busy and she hardly has time to mail me once in 3 weeks. That's why I came here in the first place.

And I'm glad too I wasn't the only one crying at the Grey Havens.

Elfstone.

01-16-2002, 09:21 AM

Boards are awesome for that sort of thing it just sucks that we'll never know any of the people on this board in real life.

Good times.

Elfstone.

p.s.lets start that blubberingclub mentioned before ;)

ragamuffin92

01-16-2002, 09:32 AM

Just think of your computer as a palantir (without live visuals, unfortunately), and this board as a "central seeing-stone switchboard.":)

Agburanar

01-16-2002, 09:37 AM

Without doubt the saddest ending to a book that I can remember, but not one without hope. If you listen to the very end of the radio play I don't think anyone would be unmoved, it is the perfect ending.

Gandalf the White

01-16-2002, 11:26 AM

For me, without a doubt, the saddest story in all of Tolkein's books is the story of Beren and Luthien followed straight away by the story Turin!

Both those stories are so, so sad and rarely does a book move me to tears. First time I read LotR also, the death of Gandalf was sad and so was it when Sam and Frodo come out of Mt Doom and just lie down - very sad indeed.

From the movie, I really liked the Gandalf death scene and especially the reaction of the non-Tolkein reading audience, who were just shocked. And the end with Frodo going on his own to Mordor was sad.

:(

More of it I hope.

ragamuffin92

01-16-2002, 03:46 PM

You're right, Gandalf, the mourning after you, er the MOVIE Gandalf died was very moving, even to those of us who know the WHOLE story. Another job well done by PJ.

Binky The Clown

01-16-2002, 04:54 PM

I agree with Ragamuffin92. The whole series is sad and depressing, especially in The Silmarillion. About nothing really goes right, and everybody is dying and stuff... But I never really cried though. I almost did.

ragamuffin92

01-16-2002, 04:59 PM

Well, Binky, I didn't exactly say the books were depressing, just sad. I guess you're not one of those HAPPY clowns, huh? :)

Arathorn

01-16-2002, 11:07 PM

Regarding those who passed on to the grey havens, i feel said, yes....

but not for them...

for they move on to the west where there is no sadness..

perhaps for folk such as sam who was left behind...

I later found out somewhere that he also passed to the west after many years....

The saddest I think are of those who faded in middle earth, such as arwen as well as the ents...i still would like to think that they were united with the entwives in som forest only Tom knows...

ragamuffin92

01-16-2002, 11:19 PM

Arathorn, have you ever read (and I'm sure you have) the account ofArwen and Aragorn'sold age and passing? It must have been the Silmarillion, but I'm not sure. ANOTHER bitter slice of life. Kind of says that for all the glory, honor, etc, in the life of the king and queen, they were still not a whole lot different from us.

Arathorn

01-16-2002, 11:29 PM

Yes I did read about what happened to Aragorn and Arwen...

Aragorn had the better end of the deal..

Arwen outlived Aragorn and was left all alone in Lorien.

Forgive me for digressing again but it does remind me of that Highlander series. You outlive the ones you love.

athelas

01-17-2002, 07:46 AM

I almost cried when I first read the part where Frodo is reunited with Sam, and when he snatches the ring back from him and sees him as an orc, but when the vision fades he sees Sam at his feet in tears,"as if he had been stabbed in the heart..." That was sad.:( I was also rather sad at the part (And ive been known to be rather emotionless..) where Sam carries Frodo and crawls up the mountain, even though he was in pain. "And I'll carry Mr Frodo up myself, if it breaks my back and heart...":*/

luinilwen

01-17-2002, 08:34 AM

are you sure aragorn and arwen's aging and passing is in the silmarillion? i thought it finished at the same point that LOTR did - at the end of the third age. wouldn't aragorn and arwen be in the fourth age? i'm probably wrong, i haven't finished the silmarillion yet :p

luinilwen

01-17-2002, 08:37 AM

but yes, i was blubbering all through the book at mournful parts, at joyful parts, at humorous parts and at words of vast wisdom. and i very rarely cry, reading books, watching movies, getting a boo boo on my knee... :) :) :)

Menelvagor

01-17-2002, 08:42 AM

Luinilwen, the passage of Aragorn and Arwen is in appendix A of LotR, It's probably also in the Sil, but I haven't finished it yet either.

Elfstone.

01-17-2002, 09:31 AM

Too many good times from the book sbeing brought up we nneed to start the blubberers club that someone mentioned before I'm in for sure.

What about Gimli guys he and Legolas went into the West but Gimli was still mortal and doomed to die thats kinda sad as well.

Elfstone

ragamuffin92

01-17-2002, 10:51 AM

Menelgavor is correct. The story of Aragorn's and Arwen's passings is in Appendix A, part V, "HERE FOLLOWS A PART OF THE TALE OF ARAGORN AND ARWEN"

Arathorn

01-17-2002, 10:52 AM

Ooops...got the books mixed up...IT IS in one of the appendices of ROTK: the story of how they first met, got married, became royalty, and how she outlived him...

I checked Sil but couldn't find it. Am back in TTT just as they are about to leave Orthanc (and a nice part to stop for a read-rest i might say)

ragamuffin92

01-17-2002, 10:58 AM

See appendix B, year 1541.
"Then Legolas built a grey ship in Ithilien, and sailed down Anduin and so over Sea; and with him, it is said, went Gimli the Dwarf. And when that ship passed, an end was come in Middle-earth of the Fellowship of the Ring."
Cheer up, Elfstone. I'm sure Prof. T was saying that Gimli was allowed to accompany Legolas to the Blessed Realm.

Vardasoroniel

01-17-2002, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by aldesign
i was close to tears when Boromir died

his last valiant fighting efforts defending Merry & Pippen were excellent. And made him a great man and hero in Striders' and my view.

The film was excellent at encaptulating this moment, all in slow mo, and when the final arrow hit, u could see the tears in the hobbits eyes, as they drew their swords and charged in anger

i agree! the movie really crystallized the redemption, as it were, of boromir. his struggle with himself over the ring rang true, and his realization of what he'd done and what he'd almost done were clearly shown.

i was both crying and cheering for him at his end!

luinilwen

01-17-2002, 07:24 PM

thankyou for the affirmation, master arathorn :)

and i think gimli 'elf-friend' was the only dwarf permitted to go to the grey havens. it's in ROTK at the very end of app A.

Here follows one of the last notes in the Red Book: We have heard tell that Legolas took Gimli Gloin's son with him because of their great friendship, greater than any that has been between Elf and Dwarf. If this is true, then it is strange indeed; that a Dwarf should be willing to leave Middle-earth for any love, or that the Eldar should recieve him, or that the Lords of the West should permit it. But it is said that Gimli went also out of desire to see again the beauty of Galadriel; and it may be that she, being mighty among the Eldar, obtained this grace for him. More cannot be said of this matter.
i think it's more grim that Frodo should leave Sam behind, although by doing this he allows him to be "one and whole" and not "torn in two" *sigh* :) :) :)

Nazgûl Queen

01-17-2002, 07:53 PM

From what i've heard and read, Sam follows Frodo to the havens in 4th Age 82, after rosie dies....
And Gimli and legolas sail in 4th Age 120, the year that Aragorn and Arwen die.

I think its so strong, loyal and sad that sam has hardly any food and no water on the journey up orodruin (giving it all to Frodo) and still manages to carry him up the mountain

bropous

01-17-2002, 08:38 PM

In the books, when Gandalf died the first time I read it, that brought tears to my eyes, and each time through the scene at the Grey Havens does it to me as well.

In the film, I shed tears at several different points each time, but Boromir's death scene certainly touches me each time.

CardenIAntauraNauco

01-17-2002, 11:13 PM

Yes. If I were watching FOTR in an empty room, I suspect I would cry from Gandalf's death to the end.

ragamuffin92

01-18-2002, 12:25 AM

The Silmarillion states that elves, at the end of the time in Middle-earth, leave for the Blessed Realm. (I'm assuming that Elves who were killed also ended up there somehow, but don't recall reading about it.) Men's spirits go somewhere unkown to the Elves, since Eru granted death to mankind as a gift, although they generally didn't see it that way.
Did Tolkien say anything about an afterlife for Hobbits, Dwarves, or Ents?

bropous

01-18-2002, 12:41 AM

Hobbits are basically Men, except small versions, and would have the same "afterlife" as Men. Letters, page 158.

I don't recall reading anything yet about the afterlife and Dwarves or Ents.

Vardasoroniel

01-18-2002, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by bropous
In the film, I shed tears at several different points each time, but Boromir's death scene certainly touches me each time.

yes, i went again to see the film and cried again at this point.

i thought it odd, when i first saw the movie, that i should cry over boromir - because i recalled a different picture of his character from having read the book. in the book, i always found his character rather unsympathetic and small and self-serving, but the way his character is portrayed in the movie was a much richer, fuller view of the man and his struggles.

slightly off this subject - there are a couple of scenes that bother me each time i see the film - the first is when bilbo reaches for the ring in rivendell and has that snarkly, orc face come over his features. it seemed, well, cheesy. the second cheesy depiction for me was galadriel - she seemed to be on a heavy dose of medication, and just strange for the revered lady of the golden wood. this was a depiction that just didn't mesh with my reading. & then of course, there was her cheesy 'beautiful yet terrible queen of the world' episode and the big " 'whew' i passed the test speech" - she just came off a bit demented to me . . .

but enough of this minor criticism . . .

Laurelyn

01-20-2002, 10:14 AM

Yeah, I cried a few times during the book at the end, and even a few times in the movie. Elijah wood did a really good job acting out Frodo's burden of the Ring. He'd better keep that up for the other movies. . .
Vardasoroniel, I thought the Galadriel scene was a bit cheesy too, and the Gandalf vs Saruman thing as well . . . although I almost cried for Gandalf later when he was imprisoned at the top of Orthanc and watching the transformation of Isengard.

Agburanar

01-20-2002, 10:57 AM

Hmm. It probably would have been a sad point in the film when Boromir died, but he spent so long milking his death in cliche slow motion I think I may have fallen asleep and missed that bit! Sean Bean was not a good choice for Boromir, he had to play the hero didn't he? He couldn't have created any form of suspense if he tried, oh, and his hair was the wrong colour and too short. Boromir's death was better in the animated film, cartoon characters don't seem to take half an hour to die!

bropous

01-20-2002, 01:14 PM

Well, Agburanar, I could not disagree more wholeheartedly.

I found the slow motion effective in the death of Boromir, as I did Sean Bean's acting. He did a fine job, brought depth and subtlety to the role, and although his hair may have been the wrong color and too short, I feel those are acceptable losses in the grand scheme of things. All in all I thought he did a creditable job, the role was well-scripted in the face of other shortcomings, and that in all his performance one of the best in the film.

Film reviewing is always subjective, and I think we simply draw observations on Bean's performance from two diametrically opposite sides of the spectrum. Oh well, that's movies for ya!

CardenIAntauraNauco

01-20-2002, 03:36 PM

he had to play the hero didn't he?

9 of the 11 or some major roles casted were heroes who would you have him play Galadriel.

Addressing Vardasoroniel:
The Galadriel "DEMON OF THE WEST!!!" thing was a bit cheesy possibly but it made sense for Bilbo to suddenly become his gollum like alter-ego. It is different from the book but everyone I've talked to who hasn't read the book esspecially liked that part .

Elfstone.

01-21-2002, 09:34 AM

Man you guys are just looking for something to critisize Sean Bean was awesome, and for people who haventread the books didn't think he took so long to die, for us we knew what was happening for them they were in the moment.

Sean Bean did an aweseom job as Boromir.

Elfstone.
(trying not to make enemies ;))

Vardasoroniel

01-21-2002, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by Elfstone.
.Sean Bean did an aweseom job as Boromir.

Elfstone.
(trying not to make enemies ;))

i wholeheartedly agree. i think he portrayed the struggle of a man with conflicted emotions very well, & after all, as an 'epic' hero he's allowed to play it a bit over the top.

Vardasoroniel

01-21-2002, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by CardenIAntauraNauco

9 of the 11 or some major roles casted were heroes who would you have him play Galadriel.

Addressing Vardasoroniel:
The Galadriel "DEMON OF THE WEST!!!" thing was a bit cheesy possibly but it made sense for Bilbo to suddenly become his gollum like alter-ego. It is different from the book but everyone I've talked to who hasn't read the book esspecially liked that part .

as a comic aside - if sean bean had played galadriel, perhaps she would have come off a bit more heroic, and less like someone in an extended opium dream . . .

as for bilbo, i agree that his obsession with the ring turns him into his alter-ego gollum - it's the b-movie theatrics of his face suddenly going goblinish that jarred my sense of the scene. i think it could have been played just as well, if not better, with his actual face becoming mean-looking and dangerously obsessed.

Vardasoroniel

01-21-2002, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by Laurelyn
Vardasoroniel, I thought the Galadriel scene was a bit cheesy too, and the Gandalf vs Saruman thing as well . . . although I almost cried for Gandalf later when he was imprisoned at the top of Orthanc and watching the transformation of Isengard.

the wizard duel wasn't too bad - at least they looked like themselves while fighting and didn't assume some demonlike faces to show the 'intensity' of the scene, as did bilbo and galadriel in their 'intense' emotional scenes.

ragamuffin92

01-21-2002, 02:45 PM

The scene between Frodo and Bilbo would have worked better if they stuck to the original story, IMHO. They could have shot Bilbo from Frodo's point of view, and had him turn into a "little wrinkled creature with a hungry face and bony groping hands" (in Frodo's eyes), as was written by Professor J. R. R. T., himself. Minor point, tho.

I DO wish that the movie had included the incident from the Council of Elrond where Bilbo stood up and volunteered to taken the ring to Mordor himself. It would have been a good piece of character developement, and also heartwarming, if nothing else.

Vardasoroniel

01-21-2002, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by ragamuffin92
The scene between Frodo and Bilbo would have worked better if they stuck to the original story, IMHO. They could have shot Bilbo from Frodo's point of view, and had him turn into a "little wrinkled creature with a hungry face and bony groping hands" (in Frodo's eyes), as was written by Professor J. R. R. T., himself. Minor point, tho.

I DO wish that the movie had included the incident from the Council of Elrond where Bilbo stood up and volunteered to taken the ring to Mordor himself. It would have been a good piece of character developement, and also heartwarming, if nothing else.

yes, that portrayal of bilbo would have seemed more in keeping with his character, and more 'realistic' in that bilbo was not of a race of magic users who are prone to turning themselves into demons at the drop of a hat. it was a portrayal of his character that just seemed over the top and unneccessary.

i also agree that it would have been nice to round out his character with his offer at the council - he was a 'hero', too, as much as the other characters, and had as full a range of good and bad points as all the rest.

Churl

01-21-2002, 03:35 PM

A couple things before tying this into the “sad” theme of the thread…

Sean Bean as Boromir: I thought he was great. In my opinion, he portrayed perfectly the literary Boromir's weakness and subsequent redemption in his brave death.

Galadriel's psychedelic freak-out: This is the creative decision I question most. For one thing, it portrays her with far more menace than she exhibited in the book. For another, it cheapens the very real, subtle undertone of menace that she did display in the books: i.e., “What if she really did choose to seize the Ring…?” And finally, while Jackson, et. al., wisely chose to retain Galadriel's words from the book — one of the coolest pieces of dialogue in there — the voice filters applied to Cate Blanchett garbled those words and ultimately robbed many viewers of their power. (For the record, here are her words.)

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‘And now at last it comes. You will give me the Ring freely! In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!’
— The Fellowship of the Ring, Book II, Chapter VII: “The Mirror of Galadriel”
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If that doesn't give you chills, check your pulse.

Bilbo's creepy transformation in Rivendell: I can handle this a little better than Galadriel's hissy fit, but I still regard it as kind of an unnecessary cheap scare. I can tolerate it, though, because the book describes how the Ring clouds Frodo's mind to perceive Bilbo as “a little wrinkled creature with a hungry face and bony groping hands.” The distinction is lost in the movie, though, and the sudden bug-eye/shocker effect prompted a friend to whisper, “Tell them Large Marge sent you…”

Sadness: Finally, as for the melancholy that suffuses all of Tolkien's work, remember Aragorn's description of the story of Beren and Lúthien:

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‘It is a fair tale, though it is sad, as are all the tales of Middle-earth, and yet it may lift up your hearts.’
— The Fellowship of the Ring, Book I, Chapter XI: “A Knife in the Dark”
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That about says it all.

ragamuffin92

01-21-2002, 03:58 PM

Originally posted by Churl
...the sudden bug-eye/shocker effect prompted a friend to whisper, "Tell them Large Marge sent you..."

Sadness: Finally, as for the melancholy that suffuses all of Tolkien's work, remember Aragorn's description of the story of Beren and Lœthien:

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'It is a fair tale, though it is sad, as are all the tales of Middle-earth, and yet it may lift up your hearts.'
Ñ The Fellowship of the Ring, Book I, Chapter XI: "A Knife in the Dark'
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That about says it all. [/B]
Excellent point, Churl. I never looked at Professor Tolkien's Middle-earth saga based on Aragorn's statement before. It's very appropriate, and eye-opening.
But did you have to go and mention your friend's "Large Marge" wisecrack? I'm going to lose it every time I see that scene from now on. :)

Churl

01-21-2002, 04:09 PM

Sorry — I can't view it the same way now, either. Like many here, I might have gone into my first screening with a bit too much fussy reverence. On subsequent trips, people like my wiseacre friend tempered that reverence with some necessary humor.

(By the way: on no account do I advocate talking during movies. I'm an unapologetic "shusher" … my friend would have gotten an elbow in the ribs if he'd been louder or talked longer. At home, though, I must admit to giving bad movies the Mystery Science Theater 3000 treatment …) :)

ragamuffin92

01-21-2002, 05:49 PM

Now that you mention MST3K, that "Large Marge" crack DOES sound like a Tom Servo line... :)

Menelvagor

01-21-2002, 08:34 PM

First off I would like to say that as a whole, I liked the movie, and I don't want to seem too critical, but I thought they could have done better with a lot of the characters.

Bilbo: I think the movie did a great job of showing Bilbo and how he gave up the ring, but I couldn't help but laugh when he did the gollum-face-thing.

Galadriel: I thought her whole 'passed the test' speech was just silly, that could have been a very poinant moment in the development of the power that the ring has over people, and it would have helped in the scene where Aragorn refuses the Ring, but I was to busy wondering "What is she ON?" for the true meaning of it to sink in.

Gandalf: I liked the actor who portrayed him, I think the appearence was perfect. The character, though, appeared way too senile and weak. They emphasized his shortcomings in the wizards duel, on Caradhras, on the bridge with the balrog, and even in his dealings with Bilbo, and made him appear far too inept. Now, I realize that these shortcomings are present in the books, but in them, we also see more of his stronger characteristics. The difference between the two is that in the books, he is an old man with many cares who is trying his hardest and (generally) succeeding, and in the movie, he is an old man with many cares who is trying his hardest and (generally) failing. Now before people get angry with me, what I think PJ is doing is seting him up for a major redemption in the TT with his rebirth and with the breaking of Saruman's staff, but until then, the Company could almost do just as well without him.

Legolas and Gimli: I thought they were good, but underdeveloped (again :) ). They are secondary characters in LotR thought and I expect them to get better in TTT. Only thing: I would have liked to see more of their friendship in Lorien.

Aragorn: I mentioned my thing with his portrayal in a previous thread, so I won't dwell on it here. I just don't like the way he "finds courage" during the movie and the whole thing with him choosing exile rather than face his fears just kind of ticks me off.

Frodo and Sam: They were the best charaters, by far, in the movie. The movie really focused on them(it is neccesary to, in a book with so many dynamic characters, pick someone to focus on and I think that is why so many of the other characters are underrepresented) and the good job done with them (especially Frodo's struggle with the ring) shows how good a job PJ really did.

Boromir (this is the last one, I promise): His death scene was great. It was very different from the books, but in this case, I found the diviation to be a good thing. They also focused on him quite a lot and I thought they did an admirable job with his character. That last scene was wonderful and completely made up for any problems I had with the rest of it.

Ok, I'll step off my soap box now. Sorry about my rantings, I would just like to say again that I DID like the movie A LOT. I think that it would have been impossible to represent every character the way they truly are, and I liked the new spin it put on it. I suppose what I am trying to say is that I liked the books better, but I'm glad they made the movie.

Breathelessly yours,
Menelvagor

:)

Agburanar

01-22-2002, 05:33 AM

bleurrgh! Just cut Sean Bean will you? He shouldn't have been in the film at all. Why not get Harrison Ford to take a role and then anything that seperated the film from Indiana Jones would be completely destroyed: Indiana Jones and the Ring of Doom?

Tawfret Melee

01-22-2002, 06:04 AM

Hmmm... Boromir came off really well to me. I didn't appreciate his character much until I saw the movie. Now that I'm rereading the trilogy again, I have a lot more compassion and liking for him.

And in reply to the initial topic: If there is a blubberers club, I have undoubtedly sobbed enough to belong. ^_^ I cried a lot:
For Gandalf when he was lost in Moria.
For Boromir's death. (The movie inspired a violent sob-fest.)
When Frodo decided to journey alone. That was SOO sad!
The entire ending sequence in Return of the King. Do any of you remember what Bilbo said after everything was over? Something about how he wanted to travel and see the world again but was too old. Somehow I found that incredibly sad. The departures across the sea were terribly moving as well.

The award, however, for most tears shed goes to the ending sequence in the Two Towers. I was too oblivious to realize Frodo wasn't really dead, and I frightened my family by wailing my eyes out. It was just so touching the way Sam sat there and mourned, and then decided to carry on. *starts crying again over the memory*

ragamuffin92

01-22-2002, 11:43 AM

There, there--if you e-mail me your street address, I'll mail you a box of Kleenex. :)

Vardasoroniel

01-22-2002, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by Churl
Galadriel's psychedelic freak-out: This is the creative decision I question most. For one thing, it portrays her with far more menace than she exhibited in the book. For another, it cheapens the very real, subtle undertone of menace that she did display in the books: i.e., “What if she really did choose to seize the Ring…?” And finally, while Jackson, et. al., wisely chose to retain Galadriel's words from the book — one of the coolest pieces of dialogue in there — the voice filters applied to Cate Blanchett garbled those words and ultimately robbed many viewers of their power. (For the record, here are her words.)

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‘And now at last it comes. You will give me the Ring freely! In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!’
— The Fellowship of the Ring, Book II, Chapter VII: “The Mirror of Galadriel”
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If that doesn't give you chills, check your pulse.

Bilbo's creepy transformation in Rivendell: I can handle this a little better than Galadriel's hissy fit, but I still regard it as kind of an unnecessary cheap scare. I can tolerate it, though, because the book describes how the Ring clouds Frodo's mind to perceive Bilbo as “a little wrinkled creature with a hungry face and bony groping hands.” The distinction is lost in the movie, though, and the sudden bug-eye/shocker effect prompted a friend to whisper, “Tell them Large Marge sent you…” [/B

*****************************
about the galadriel scene -- yes, her words are quite compelling, but i had always read it as more of an ongoing, introspective dialog in which she found resolution when the actual ring was offered to her by frodo.

re: bilbo's creepy transformation - i still think that the scene could have played better if bilbo had been shown more naturally in his needy/greedy-ness, and the major focus have been the extreme reaction of frodo

btw - loved the large marge reference!

Tawfret Melee

01-22-2002, 09:16 PM

Kleenex is much appreciated... especially since I thought up more tear-jerking moments after I posted. *sniffle* But I'm glad to know I'm not the only sensitive reader. ^_^

sepulchrave

01-22-2002, 10:46 PM

are we discussing what made us weep in the movie, or in the book? Of course we must be discussing the book, because movie posts belong in the movie post area...right?

ragamuffin92

01-22-2002, 11:02 PM

Re: Boo-hoo-hoo! :(

But Sepulchrave, sometimes we get so emotionally overwrought that we just can't remember WHICH gosh darn thread we're in!! :D

sepulchrave

01-22-2002, 11:13 PM

i understand....I am making a concerted effort to separate them in my mind. I have been familiar with LotR since 1975, and it is a very special book for me. I enjoyed the film, but I do not want my "mind pictures" interfered with by superimposition of the images from the film, even if some of them (Moria, for example) were very close to my own. Please understand that there are many who feel the same way as myself. The pure joy I recieved at age 13 when I first read the glorious tale cannot be equaled by any film, no matter how wonderfully realized. Those memories, and imaginative journeys, I, and those others who feel this way, would very much like to keep intact. So that is why the separation on this message board... don't mean to be heavy or anything, sorry if the cold characters on the screen come across that way...
yours, the chief resident of the tower of Flints
Sepulchrave

ragamuffin92

01-23-2002, 01:18 AM

I didn't find your post to be heavy-handed, my neighbor to the far northwest. I was just having a little good-natured fun over the topic of getting weepy over a movie. I like to ask certain women friends why they enjoy seeing a movie that makes them cry. (I admit to getting misty while reading-AND viewing-certain parts of the trilogy as well, so I'm also ribbing myself.)
But I wasn't joking about forgetting which thread you're in. Navigating between the numerous threads here can make you dizzy. :)
Tower of Flints?

sepulchrave

01-23-2002, 01:30 AM

The Tower of Flints is located within the hereditary castle of the Groan family, named Gormenghast. This castle is fully described in the books written by one Mervyn Peake, named "Titus Groan", "Gormenghast", and "Titus Alone", magnificent fantasies that are utterly unlike Tolkiens work, but rank with them in my opinion. The BBC recently did a screenplay version that is readily available on video, and the books are in print. They are unique, some find them difficult, but I waited many years to find another great fantasy that would enthrall me as did the ring, and I have found it. I cannot recommend them highly enough.

Agburanar

01-23-2002, 05:21 AM

The Gormenghast series was amazing! Now there's an example of a SUCCESSFUL screenplay taken from a book but it was quite similar to the LotR film in it's attention to gory detail. It did, however spend a lot of time developing the main characters. That was my second biggest problem with PJ's film, none of the characters changed really, not like they do in the book.

rollingskullandbones

01-25-2002, 10:39 PM

Boromir's death was surprising to me because he was one of my favorite characters and when I saw the movie he got shot like three times according to the book by Lurtz the orc who was not in the book I do not think and they were playing that music while he was killing all the orc. I thought that was sad and I refused to cry so I bit my tongue since I was in the theatre.

Elfstone.

02-13-2002, 09:13 PM

That blubberers of the Ring club that somenoe mentioned before i think would fly pritty well.

Its also pritty awesome to see the ladies on this forum too.
I need to marry a chick that likes LOTR for sure, most of hte ones i know hate it.

Go LOTR chicks go!

Elfstone.
Davie

markedel

02-13-2002, 10:20 PM

We all know that anything Silmarrillion related is far more depressing

The fifth battle anyone?

Chokes me up every time!

Evenstar

02-14-2002, 07:00 AM

I cried when I realised that Frodo and Sam were gonna be separated when Frodo went to the Grey Havens!!! I literally BAWLED!!! I had to hide the book!!! But then I kept on reading the appendix and found out that Sam went eventually!!!
And I cried through a lot of other bits like...Boromirs death..and how he kept on fighting even with three arrows in him...His speecj to aragorn and when he called Aragorn his 'king' I thought that was really sweet!! Gandalfs death..."fly you fools" and Frodo's one tear in the movie!!! When pippin got hurt in the 3rd book and you thought he was dead!!! When Merry saved Eowyn and he thought she was dead...Theodons death...Frodo/Sam and Shelob!!! plus more but I might be here all day describing them to you...but I have a question...did anyone else cry or just feel sad when (in RotK) they are at the Shire and it was after they saved it...and Sam says how Frodo wasn't getting much recognition...that only Merry, Piipin, and Sam were...I felt so bad for Frodo considering that he saved them all!!!
:p

Brimvalir

02-14-2002, 06:26 PM

:D

The Part that always gets a tear from me is in the Two Towers when Eowyn confronts the Lord of the Nazgul ... but she did not flinch fair maiden of the rohan ... a swift stroke she dealt skilled and deadly ...... the part that gets me is when she looks up and the tears are coming down her cheeks

Elfstone.

02-17-2002, 09:22 PM

Oops i'll send out a big sorry if this post wrecked anyones first time through the books.

Sorry.

Elfstone.
Davie

KGamgee

02-18-2002, 12:01 PM

I cry about 30 times during the book. One time I started sobbing in the car and my parents made fun of me....But I didn't cry when Boromir died....I never really liked him.....
I cried when I thought Gandalf died
I cried when I thought Frodo died
I cried when Sam decided to leave Frodo
I cried at the Grey Havens
Then I cried hardest when I finished the book and there was no more to read....now thats depressing.:( :(
KGamgee
(crying AGAIN)

Kwijibo

03-11-2002, 07:34 PM

I'm terrible at crying in books and movies. In LotR, I cried:
- When they found Balin's tomb
- When Gandalf fell down Khazad-Dum (I cried in the movie there too)
- When Boromir died
- When Theoden died
- When Sam thought Frodo was dead but it turned out he wasn't and Sam was all alone.
- When Mordor started falling apart and Frodo said 'I suppose this is the end' (or something along those lines)
- At the end (of course)

I cried in the Hobbit:
- When Smaug died (I have this thing for dragons)
- When I found out that Thorin died in the Battle of the Five Armies
- When I found that Fili and Kili died coz they were me favourites.

Has anyone ever read the His Dark Materials trilogy by Phillip Pullman? If you haven't, I recommened it and guess what? It made me cry! I also cried in Harry Potter, but none of you want to know about that do you? :D

Kwijibo

03-11-2002, 07:35 PM

I'm terrible at crying in books and movies. In LotR, I cried:
- When they found Balin's tomb
- When Gandalf fell down Khazad-Dum (I cried in the movie there too)
- When Boromir died
- When Theoden died
- When Sam thought Frodo was dead but it turned out he wasn't and Sam was all alone.
- When Mordor started falling apart and Frodo said 'I suppose this is the end' (or something along those lines)
- At the end (of course)

I cried in the Hobbit:
- When Smaug died (I have this thing for dragons)
- When I found out that Thorin died in the Battle of the Five Armies
- When I found that Fili and Kili died coz they were my favourites.

Has anyone ever read the His Dark Materials trilogy by Phillip Pullman? If you haven't, I recommened it and guess what? It made me cry! I also cried in Harry Potter, but none of you want to know about that do you? :D

Kwijibo

03-11-2002, 07:36 PM

Oh no! Double post! Yikes! Sorry!

anduin

03-11-2002, 08:38 PM

Wow! That's pretty good! I thought I was the only one capable of a double post. :p

I get misty-eyed anytime Aragorn talks of how his "time" is drawing nearer....to becoming King. Whenever his kingly stature shines through his Strider persona. That stuff chokes me up everytime I read it. That make any sense?

BTW, I have yet to really see any of that in the movie.....perhaps when Boromir dies.

Elfstone.

03-11-2002, 10:06 PM

Crying is good, it solves all our little problems hehe

I'd give yu guys each a hankerchief if i could ..

Peace
Elfstone.

Eruviel Greenleaf

03-11-2002, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by Kwijibo
Has anyone ever read the His Dark Materials trilogy by Phillip Pullman? If you haven't, I recommened it and guess what? It made me cry! I also cried in Harry Potter, but none of you want to know about that do you? :D

I love His Dark Materials!!!!!!!! Great books. I got rather misty eyed at the end of Amber Spyglass. . .

I always cry at the movie when Boromir dies, and again when Sam and Frodo are looking off toward Mordor, and when Frodo helps Sam into the boat. Basically from the death of Borimir on, I'm in tears. . .
I also cried at the end of the BBC production. Then I listened to it again, and got all sad once more.

Yep, Elfstone, crying is good :)

Eruviel Greenleaf

03-11-2002, 10:34 PM

Eruviel Greenleaf

03-11-2002, 10:35 PM

Sorry!!!! Double Post. . .

Kwijibo

03-12-2002, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by Eruviel Greenleaf
I love His Dark Materials!!!!!!!! Great books.

Ooooooooooh! I thought I was the only one in Middle-earth, apart from my best mate, who'd read them!
Which one was your fave, Eruviel? Mine was Northern Lights coz I like Iorek Byrnison. The bit made me cry in the Amber Spyglass (or was it The Subtle Knife?) was when Iorek repaired Will's knife but then he left them - I was in floods!

Hey, did ne1 else feel a phyically sick when Denethor killed himself? I really thought I was gonna throw up!

Comic Book Guy

03-12-2002, 06:14 PM

You can discuss the most Excellant Dark Materials trilogy in this thread.

http://www.tolkientrail.com/entmoot/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1942&highlight=Dark+Materials.

Eruviel Greenleaf

03-12-2002, 10:59 PM

My apologies for going off-subject, CBG.

Kwijibo, I posted my favorite part in the "correct" thread.

I, too, felt physically ill when Denothor killed himself. *shudders*

Starr Polish

03-12-2002, 11:03 PM

Did I shed a tear.

Exactly one. I refused to finish the book at school, but even though I felt all torn up, I didn't cry a lot.

My heart sure hurt though.

Elfstone.

03-19-2002, 05:42 PM

Anyone give a brief synopsis of that series that the guys were talking about in here earlier?

Much appreciated.

Elfsonte.
Davie

frodosgirlfriend

04-01-2002, 08:47 PM

i'm reading ttt. well, i saw greyhaves on this site and didn't know what it was so i clicked on it, i read the thing about gandalf leaving and couldn't belive it. i had to see if that happens in the book. i read the last chap of rotk. then frodo left and sam was crying and....... ........ i can't belive it. i can't even read more of ttt right now. i'm like depressed. when i read lotr i really feel bad for the hobbits. when pip looked into the planìter i started crying i felt so bad for him. the last chap of rotk, i didn't even know what to do. i just tured of my light a deamed about it (it was a sad dream). just reading about what will happen is making me cry *wipes away tears* i'm glad i'm not the only cry baby. *covers mouth and hopes mom and dad don't hear her sniffling*

Shadowfax

04-01-2002, 08:59 PM

I cried when I read the part where Sam thinks Frodo is dead - when he gets stung by Shelob:(

Eruviel Greenleaf

04-01-2002, 10:20 PM

I did too, Shadowfax. Welcome to the 'moot!

Elfstone, were you referring to 'His Dark Materials?' It's a trilogy by Philip Pullman, the books are called: 'The Golden Compass,' 'The Subtle Knife,' and 'The Amber Spyglass.' The first one starts in a world similiar to our own (not Middle-earth :))
but everyone's soul (I guess. . .) called a daemon, is visible, an almost seperate entity, in the shape of an animal. It's about a girl called Lyra, and, well, it starts small and grows larger and larger-scaled. If I say anymore, a. I will be scolded for going off topic (:)) and b. I don't like giving away plots. If you haven't read them already, go do so now! They're really good!! :D

markedel

04-01-2002, 11:28 PM

I find the silmarillion even more depressing then the gray heavens, and they are gray

Entlover

04-02-2002, 01:47 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by markedel
[B]I find the silmarillion even more depressing then the gray heavens, and they are gray.

While I was reading the Silmarillion I thought it was very depressing and wondered why anyone would read it or say it was their favorite book . . .but now it throws light on a lot of what goes on in LotR. I'll probably read it again. But it sure made me look at the elves differently; I used to think of them as all gentle and flute-playing, gauzy wing types. The Silmarillion portrays them as a bunch of bloodthirsty Huns.(as in Attila the Hun).

cassiopeia

04-02-2002, 02:27 AM

The last time I read LOTR I cried through most of the last chapter. I also cried when I learned Merry and Pippin died in the appendicies! That part makes me so sad! Even though I loved the movie, it didn't make me cry. Sob.

Elf Girl

04-02-2002, 08:34 AM

I really, really liked his His Dark Materiels. I might add that I have met Philip Pullman, and he signed my copy of The Goldan Compass.

Comic Book Guy

04-02-2002, 03:38 PM

The last time I read LOTR I cried through most of the last chapter.

Yeah I felt sorry for Fredegar too.

I also cried when I learned Merry and Pippin died in the appendicies!

Well, what did you expect? Hobbits don't live forever, even Frodo and Bilbo died eventually.

cassiopeia

04-03-2002, 02:29 AM

WHAT! Frodo and Bilbo die as well! So Sam does as well. NO! I can't cope with that. AAAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH. I'm leaving now to hide under a rock. (Whimpers)

I know I'm weird.

Eruviel Greenleaf

04-03-2002, 02:47 AM

Originally posted by Elf Girl
I really, really liked his His Dark Materiels. I might add that I have met Philip Pullman, and he signed my copy of The Goldan Compass.

Being in danger of *gasp* going off-topic, I will say: I have met him too--well, sorta, at a book-reading. I couldn't get my book signed, though, 'cause there were too many people.

Okay, back to the subject! To echo CBG, well, Frodo and Bilbo are Hobbits, they don't live forever. . .to quote from Electra by Sophocles, 'All men die.' Okay, that refers to men, but Hobbits are mortal too. :) Parts of the appendices do make me cry. . .

Elf Girl

04-03-2002, 07:35 AM

It doesn't say they die, but they must at some point. In the meantime, FRODO LIVES!!!

cassiopeia

04-04-2002, 02:28 AM

I did know that hobbits died, but I can't help crying, OK. I believe Prof. Tolkien wrote that Frodo and Bilbo would have their lives extended, but they will eventually die. But in my opinion FRODO LIVES (and Bilbo and Sam)!

BTW Phillip Pullmans Dark Materials is one of my favorite books, after LOTR of course. I want a daemon!!

Eruviel Greenleaf

04-04-2002, 02:46 AM

Frodo Lives!!

er, just thought I'd say that. . .

I have a daemon! :) He's a crow. He likes to steal shiny objects. :D

Fladrif

04-04-2002, 04:33 AM

I get sappy at times, too. In the movie when Arwen says that her immortality is hers to give to whomever she chooses, and she chooses Aragorn. And in the book when Galadriel gives Aragorn the eagle pendant. I know my darling also gave up so much for me... *sniff*

Earniel

04-04-2002, 06:16 AM

Originally posted by Eruviel Greenleaf
I have a daemon! :) He's a crow. He likes to steal shiny objects. :D

Err, what?

Elf Girl

04-04-2002, 08:26 AM

My daemon likes to be a ferret and tries to sit on my soulder like daemons are suppsosed to, but he gets fidgety and wanders around. He becomes a bird when I go outside. (he hasn't settled yet). For those of you who have no idea what we're talking about, read His Dark Materiels.

As for the topic, I cry all the time in the book and the movie. I have stopped trying to suppress it.

Earniel

04-04-2002, 01:33 PM

The grey havens always makes me sad but what I find equally saddening is that Frodo was never completely free of the Ring and it's evil. his wound often hurts. The hobbits just don't seem to understand fully what he did and most of them look up to Merry, Peppin and Sam and not to Frodo. He remains alone, never marries and such. And it seems as whole the Shire is happy and celebrating he's just not. Very sad, sniff.

Comic Book Guy

04-04-2002, 01:41 PM

believe Prof. Tolkien wrote that Frodo and Bilbo would have their lives extended, but they will eventually die.

Actually he wrote that Frodo and Bilbo would be healed from the 'effect' the ring had on them in Tol Eressëa, not be made immortal or have their life spans extended, hence eventually dying.

azalea

04-13-2002, 09:39 PM

Again, bored and reading old threads:
I cry at the end SPECIFICALLY when Frodo is asking Sam to come w/ him on the last journey (to Havens) and they discuss how he can't go for very long, because Tolkien did such a great job of illustrating the special and unique bond they had, and the fact that it then changes (or at least that things can't be the way they were, almost like old war buddies must feel) makes me sob, sob, sob!

Ërendil

04-14-2002, 04:01 PM

I always cry when pippin is in battle and "His eyes saw no more" The 1st time i read that my mum came in my room and thought that something was seriously wrong with me. I was crying so bad, i actually thought that he was dead. Another part like that was when Sam thought Frodo was dead and at the end when Frodo is saying good-bye to every1. Tears were streaming down my face. Even now i still cry at those parts (and more depending on how im feeling) even though i have read the book so many times.

azalea

04-14-2002, 06:39 PM

I also cry when Pippin finds Merry and helps him get to the Houses of Healing, when Merry says "have you come to bury me", then Gandalf comes and says how he should have been borne in honor into the city and how he was glad Elrond had not made him change his mind about letting them come -- it's so touching.

katya

08-27-2002, 07:30 PM

i cried my eyes out when frodo "died" not so much about frodo but about sam. that was the only time i really cried. i got choked up at the very end though and when quickbeam was singing about his dead trees. i nearly cried about the trees. i did cry for my own white pine though...

Erawyn

08-27-2002, 11:35 PM

Then I cried hardest when I finished the book and there was no more to read....now thats depressing
yah thats the saddest bit!
The grey havens, and for some reason i think its so sad when Legolas is talking to them after hearing the sea gulls and saying he can never be happy in ME again. I thought the movie scene of boromir dying was a lot sadder than in the books.

Omg the end of the amber spyglass, i was depressed for days!

RosieCotton

08-28-2002, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by Erawyn

Omg the end of the amber spyglass, i was depressed for days!

Wasn't that depressing, omg, I was crying so hard when it finished!

As for Lord of the Rings, I cry every time I read the end. So sad...."Well, I'm back." Those words make me start sobbing every time. *sigh* I was at another message board for Lord of the Rings @ bitofearth.net and they all though the ending was horrible. I though it was the perfect ending for the story. Everyone also thought that Sam and Frodo were gay....I mean EVERY one of them. I don't go there anymore :D
~Rosie~

Urksnik the Sleek

08-28-2002, 02:35 PM

I have a regular sniffle at most of the aforementioned sad bits, and that includes Aragorn's death in the Appendix, but I also get misty eyed at some of the good bits, like when Frodo and Sam wake up after destroying the Ring, and theyr'e alive and so is Gandalf, and they meet up with their friends again.

samwiselvr2008

08-28-2002, 07:43 PM

No, not at the end, but there was another part, I forgot exsacly what it said, if you reconise it and can quote or tell me the chapter I would greatly apresiate it. It was something about a horn blowing, and since then some charicter could never hear a horn blow with out shedding a tear! It was so sad, it was in eather TTT or ROTK.

I think that at the end of ROTK some people will be sad, and might even cry, I at least probally will, and others will lauf and call it stupid, while still others will say "is that all?" And yet there will be more, the book LOTR fans will be complaning about the mistakes, and the people that never liked it will be rejoysing that it is finally over, and some will be making fun of the charicters and even *sniff* Sammyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy *sobs as she thinks about it* poor sam!:(

Sminty_Smeagol

08-29-2002, 06:46 AM

I moped around after reading LOTR... kind of dazed... feeling so full yet empty because there was no more to read... All of the friends I had been acquainted with over the past three months moved out of the country and out of any contact... *sigh*

But then I started on the Silm, and now the Histories and Unfinished Tales. But they're not like LOTR... It isn't as personal as LOTR

-~*Sminty*~-

RosieCotton

08-29-2002, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by samwiselvr2008
No, not at the end, but there was another part, I forgot exsacly what it said, if you reconise it and can quote or tell me the chapter I would greatly apresiate it. It was something about a horn blowing, and since then some charicter could never hear a horn blow with out shedding a tear! It was so sad, it was in eather TTT or ROTK.

I think that at the end of ROTK some people will be sad, and might even cry, I at least probally will, and others will lauf and call it stupid, while still others will say "is that all?" And yet there will be more, the book LOTR fans will be complaning about the mistakes, and the people that never liked it will be rejoysing that it is finally over, and some will be making fun of the charicters and even *sniff* Sammyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy *sobs as she thinks about it* poor sam!:(

I know exactley what quote you mean, but I'm having trouble finding it. I'll get back to you.
I agree completely with the second part. Some people will just never understand Lord of the Rings. When I go to see the movie, if anyone makes fun of it, I'll throw popcorn at them. :( ;)

entss89

08-29-2002, 05:30 PM

for some reason i did not cry did anyone else not cry?:cool:

Elfstone.

08-30-2002, 09:05 PM

Well for the dude that didnt cry man, i guess you just didn't get as deeply involved in the story as we did. Its a shame that you didnt you're missing a big part, the emotional involvement part.

But hey when i posted this post i asked if you cried? and you didnt so whatever. Have a good one.

The Ringbearer

08-30-2002, 09:10 PM

I can't cry if other people are around/can see me. :rolleyes:
But I did cry when I thought that Frodo had died(then I had to look ahead.), in the Tower, and at the end. I also cried when I read in another book that Gandalf would die. In the movie, I start up every time when Sam says," I made a promise Mr. Frodo; a promise....."
:( *temporarily breaks down* I just KNOW I'm going to cry my eyes out at the end of the 3rd movie!

Elfstone.

08-30-2002, 09:22 PM

it really is that all these people that we meet and chat with and would have excellent friendships with in real life we will never meet, and if we do we probably wouldn't know it.

that almost makes me cry. lol

Good times.

Lord Bless.
Christ reigns.

David

Bertuthiel

08-30-2002, 10:34 PM

Well, here goes. I'm a might embarrased, but I'll tell you anyway.

The first time I wept was when Gimli accounts for the beauty of Lorien, as he sits weeping in the boat. The sound of Galadriel's lamenting voice echoed in my head as if heaven itself was being broken and there seemed no hope that anyone would ever go there again.
Legolas' kind words only served to make me bawl harder!
In the theatre, seeing the movie, I wept and wept. I didn't want anyone to notice, so I let the tears roll, and kept watching. Need I say, my shirt was soaked and I was brushing off my boobs instead! Giant hard-won crocodile tears poured from my eyes like I have never experienced.
Tears of joy they were, for seeing the legend thus created in front of me only served as a release from years of being imprisoned in The Red Book, without a hope of ever seeing it protrayed by live actors.

The next spot had to have been Broromir's death. Poor Aragorn kneeing and weeping holding Boromir's cold hand shook me. It's not often that you read that the hero weeps openly. His earlier worry "All that I have done goes amiss!"and his later "What shall we do now? We cannot leave him thus and we cannot follow the hobbits," made me insane. What could he do? He was in a pickle far worse than any I've ever experienced. No wonder he wept. Gandalf and Boromir, slain, and the little hobbits kidnapped! I would have been sobbing aloud in my grief.
The burial via the River and The Falls of Rauros made it worse. I wept and wept, and had to put the book down several times just to clear my eyes in order to go on. After that chapter I sat in a blue funk for days. I could not imagine how Frodo would ever survive, or if Merry and Pippin would be slain, surely it couldn't be that! This only served to make me plunge on, and finish the TTT.

And lastly, Sam's discovery of Frodo in the cave of Shelob made me outright hysterical. I raved for hours, aloud in my room. My family thought I was out of my mind. I woudn't come down for dinner. I read and read far into the night, until I finally was rewarded with the Warrior Elf Sam's discovery of Frodo in the Orc tower. And when Frodo exclaimed, "I feel like a child at rest" (in Sam's arms) I finally tearily fell asleep.

When TTT comes out I am going to bring a wholebox of kleenex with me. (Wonder if I could sell kleenex at the door? Hmmmm might be profitable...heh heh heh.)

Entlover

08-30-2002, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by Elfstone.
it really is that all these people that we meet and chat with and would have excellent friendships with in real life we will never meet, and if we do we probably wouldn't know it. David

Well, if as you say Christ reigns, then we will meet some day, and as JRRT would say, that will be a merry meeting!

Telperion

08-31-2002, 11:49 AM

I agree with Erawyn, the saddest part was when youn reached the end and there was no more to read.:( Combine this with Sam's last line and it makes for a heartbreaking ending. I still am inclined to cry there and I have those books 10+ times.

Elfstone.

08-31-2002, 02:49 PM

i think one day i should like to start a sort of Tolkien / Christ reigns type site, yes i would like to do that very much.

Anyhow entlover for now as it is only you and i agreeing on Jesus reigning what sort of other endeavors do you do on the internet a.k.a. msn, icq, b.net etc.

Christ does reign.
David

Galendhol Asada

08-31-2002, 04:33 PM

Both in the book and the movie during Boromir's death makes me cry every time I see or read it.
And Samwise's 3 last words is definatly a tear-jerker. It makes me cry too.
<I'm sending a pic of Boromir with my mail. Check it out if you want to. Mail me and I'll send as many Lord of the Ring pics as you want or as many Dark Age of Camelot screenshots as you want.> :(

Comic Book Guy

08-31-2002, 06:47 PM

Galendhol Asada, read the announcement at this forum.

Elfstone.

08-31-2002, 10:55 PM

but i dont think i will :D

in any case Warner Bros. bought the Lord of the Rings TV rights, anyone know what the deal about that is?

A TV show could be interesting if it was well funded however i've seen some bad tv shows come from phenomenal books and movies. Just wondering if anyone has other information regarding this topic.

(sorry to talk about it in the books forum but i dont think there is a LOTR TV SHOW forum yet)

David the Dunadan

Celebrian

09-01-2002, 11:14 AM

i don't cry at the end, but I am definitely very sad. I feel so bad for sam, he spent all his life with Frodo, and then Frodo sail off across the sea. He has finally gone where Sam can't follow.

Elbereth

09-04-2002, 04:45 PM

I cried so much during that book it made me feel quite pitiful. I cried at Gandalf's death and Boromir's death, and when Frodo contemplates about leaving the Shire and when Merry looks back on the Shire (Houses of the Healing). Of course, all the parts in Mordor with Sam and Frodo were very sad...by the end of the book I felt like I was Sam, he had done so much for Frodo and then Frodo had to leave! And when Frodo says, 'you can't always be torn in two, you have so much do enjoy, and to do, and to be...and that should keep you busy for as long as your part of the Story goes on', and of course the very end, I cried for days.

It makes me cry just to read all these posts!

Linarryl

10-19-2002, 09:31 AM

:( :( :(I was so close to crying at Gandalf's and Boromir's death. I also felt like crying when Frodo left Sam. Poor Sam!:( :( :(

The Ringbearer

10-21-2002, 07:14 AM

*sniffle* :( Ah, us poor, poor, LotR fans! Our literature-lives are certainly full of sorrow.

"But I will not say: do not weep, for not all tears are an evil." :( :)

Rían

10-21-2002, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by samwiselvr2008
No, not at the end, but there was another part, I forgot exsacly what it said, if you reconise it and can quote or tell me the chapter I would greatly apresiate it. It was something about a horn blowing, and since then some charicter could never hear a horn blow with out shedding a tear! It was so sad, it was in eather TTT or ROTK.

Hi, samwiselvr2008! The passage you are writing about is from RoTK, the end of chapters 4 and 5 (written from 2 different POV), when the Rohirrim came to the aid of Gondor. That part always makes me cry, too, and Tolkien wrote in two of his letters (#165, 294) that it was one of the most moving parts of the story for him. I remember the part where either Pippin or Merry couldn't hear a horn blow w/o shedding a tear, but can't find it offhand, although it must be in ROTK somewhere. I'll keep looking... or let me know if you find it first. :)

Dunadan

10-22-2002, 05:51 AM

Had a quick look backa couple of pages; no-one seemed to mention the bit that gets me every time: the Pelennor Fields, when you think Theoden, Eowyn and Merry are dead and the Riders sing Death.

The ending is one of the best in literature, but it doesn't make me want to cry.

Isn't it amazing that different people are moved by different parts of the story?

Rían

10-22-2002, 12:18 PM

I agree with you, Dunadan - the blowing of the horns part is one of the most moving parts for me, as I wrote earlier, but the Pelennor fields is the other (and even greater). I can't even think about Éowyn's defiance of the Witch King w/o tears coming to my eyes. And Éomer's crazy-with-grief cry of "Death!" as he sees Éowyn and Théoden lying on the field of battle - wow. I've read LoTR I think 10 times now, and the last few times I've really appreciated Éomer more and more.

madeyejay

10-22-2002, 03:56 PM

The part that moves me, though not to tears or anything, is when Theoden is dead and Merry say "Theoden King, Theoden King, like a father you were to me, for a little while." I thought that was really sad.

entss89

10-22-2002, 05:16 PM

for i was not crying of great sadness but of great happiness and i sang a little praise for our kings of HOBBITS? he he i thought the end was great! it was in a sad happy way that i cryed though.

samwiselvr2008

10-22-2002, 07:02 PM

I found that part with the horns blowing, it was in ROTK, in chapter 7, the first paragraph:
But Pippon rose to his feet, as if a great weight had been lifted up from him; and he stood listening to the horns, and it seemed to him that they would break his heart with joy. And never in after years could he hear a horn blown in the distance without tears starting in his eyes.
I hope that that was what you were looking for also!:) I underlined it with a red pen, so that I can always find it easly.:D

I was more moved the last time that I read TTT then the first two, wich was just resently. I notised the part about Sam and Frodo, that I really liked:
Chapter 2, the passage of the Marshes, The Two Towers:
Sam nodded silently. He took his master's hand and bent over it. He did not kiss it, though his tears fell on it.

Rían

10-22-2002, 07:03 PM

oh yes, that's what I meant, too. Tears can be for beauty as well as sorrow.

Rían

10-22-2002, 07:06 PM

Oh, hooray (how is that word spelled??), samwiselvr2008, thanks so much! That has been bugging me! I can usually find passages pretty quickly, but that one had me totally stumped!

Rían

10-22-2002, 07:13 PM

my goodness, samwiselvr2008, our posts and edits keep crossing each other! My first post about tears was actually referring to entss89's post, but then your post beat mine in, then you edited your post to add the tears part, which now looks like my post about tears refers to your tears post! Whew - got that?

well - entss89 - I think tears can be for beauty, too, which is why I get tears in my eyes over the blowing horns and the Pelennor fields part. And samwiselvr2008, yes, tears sometimes speak better than words, don't they.

samwiselvr2008

10-24-2002, 07:32 PM

Yes, words do speak better then tears most of the time. Glad that I could help you find that part!:D

Fred Baggins

10-24-2002, 07:46 PM

YES! I cryed when Sam came home and when Frodo got his finger bitten off!
*WHAHHH!!!*

mirial

10-24-2002, 09:00 PM

No, I only cried when poor Boromir died...:(

Rían

10-25-2002, 09:02 PM

Speaking of tears, I was just glancing thru "Letters of JRR Tolkien" today and found the following: I did not finish the first rough writing till 1949, when I remember blotting the pages (which now represent the welcome of Frodo and Sam on the Field of Cormallen) with tears as I wrote.

(letter 241)

Keith K

11-05-2002, 07:48 PM

I always get choked up reading the Field of Cormallen when Sam wakes up all confused and befuddled and then realizes that it was all true. Then later, at the crowning of the King....that whole scene with the heralds and minstrels, the feast, the meeting of separated friends...

samwiselvr2008

11-05-2002, 08:37 PM

I cried again when I read the part where Sam held Frodo's hand, and it says how he did not kiss it, but his tears fell on it. I marked it, so that I could find it more easly.:) I'm going to read it when I do my book talk thingy (still haven't done mine, and we started on October 15:mad: ) it will be one reason why I give TTT 4 stars! (a scale of 1-4)

Vronsky

11-12-2002, 08:00 AM

Yes indeed: when Bill was left behind by the others, breaks my hart every time I read that part...
Mind you: no hard feelings at all when they joined again later: what a pony, my hero;) ;) ;)

AudrentheRanger

11-16-2002, 04:34 PM

My eyes started misting when Sam says "Well,I'm back." I know I should have been happy, but the Fellowship was over. I also cried when Aragorn died in the Appendix.:(

Agburanar

11-18-2002, 06:05 AM

I wasn't unhappy about the appendices as they are more of a history than an involved account. It was inevitable that Aragorn and Arwen should die, that's the whole idea.

Eglantine Banks

11-20-2002, 11:28 PM

1. When Fangorn asks Merry and Pippin if they have seen the Entwives, and explain who they are and that they are lost. That Elvish poem about the Entwives that he recites to them gets to me every time I read it.

2. When Arwen and Elrond say their good-byes. "None saw her last meeting with Elrond her father, for they went up into the hills and there spoke long together, and bitter was their parting that should endure beyond the ends of the world." (Tolkien can put more emotion into one sentence than most writers can in a whole book.)

-Eglantine

Lollypopgurl

11-22-2002, 10:40 PM

OH MY GOSH!! I was like sobbing when I first read that.

Before, my mom wouldn't let me buy the book; but then, I read the end at the bookstore and just started crying! She bought it for me.:D

I still cry whenever I read the last few paragraphs when Frodo leaves, and yes, definately when Sam says, "Well, I'm back."

~bursts into tears~

Blackboar

11-27-2002, 02:36 PM

I always cry but LotR is worse.
1)I cry when Gandalf falls into the shadow in Moria
2)I cry when Boromir dies.
3) I cry at the end of ForR
4)I cry when Sam thinks Frodo is dead

I cry so much it would take me hours to type ot all in :(

Entlover

11-28-2002, 01:27 AM

I find that I don't cry at Arwen's parting from her father because I don't believe in it. I think men and elves do meet again someday - can't see how Tolkien's universe could be that much different than ours.

Amandil

11-29-2002, 04:58 AM

I shed a tear with Sam's last words. Partially because it was so touching, and partially because there wasn't any more Lord of the Rings to read. That's why I started devouring the Appendices and all the bits that Christopher Tolkien was releasing at the time...

No movie talk from me in this thread!

Miranda

11-29-2002, 09:51 AM

When don't I cry in the book?!!!!! I bawl at anything vaguely touching- Gandalf, Boromir's death, everything to do with the elves leaving!!!! Its just three long novels of tears for me!!!! I love all the extra stuff that's available now- it gives me so much more insight into Tolkien's world- its so amazing. Mx

Varda Oiolosseo

11-30-2002, 06:17 PM

Yeah especially when Boromir dies and when the elves leave plus loads of other things!
i have this book called a Guide To Tolkein it's really good and goes into great detail about absoultly everything!

Elfstone.

12-02-2002, 12:12 AM

a great writer can only be depicted when such a thread as this can recapture the emotions of many a crowd

good onya all,

davie w

Keith K

12-05-2002, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by Elfstone.
a great writer can only be depicted when such a thread as this can recapture the emotions of many a crowd

good onya all,

davie w

Well spoken Elfstone! Your thread struck a chord with so many people, that I had to check in when I saw that the originator and the latest poster were one and the same!

Elf.Freak

12-05-2002, 11:57 AM

i was upset when Sam said his final line and when Boromir died, touching...*sniff*

Eothain

12-08-2002, 03:48 PM

I don't like it when Boromir dies.

RosieCotton

12-11-2002, 10:59 AM

Anyone else shed a tear?
Well, I've definitely shed more than one. One Christmas, I was in the car with my parents, and I finished Return of the King. I'm sitting in teh back of the car sniffling, and my mom asks we whats wrong. I start crying. Finally I tell them whats wrong. My mom sympathized. My dad made fun of me for a week.

I also cry at the end of Two Towers. "Boom. Clang. Frodo was alive, but taken by the enemy." I feel terrible for people who were reading them as they were published. Talk about a cliff hanger.

Rosie

RosieCotton

12-11-2002, 10:59 AM

Gwaimir Windgem

12-11-2002, 11:10 AM

Hmm, I don't think I've ever cried at LotR. :eek: There must be something wrong with me!

RosieCotton

12-12-2002, 05:33 PM

I just remembered....I didn't cry the first time, but perhaps it was because I was in 2nd grade: my dad read me the series before bed every night. But, I kept falling asleep, so I had no idea what was happening. When I went back and read it later, I only remembered Merry, Pippin, Sam, and Frodo. Perhaps that was only because I got lost after that part......

Rosie

Melkor's significant othe

12-13-2002, 07:38 AM

I find the sections where the good guys look totally overwhelmed and facing certain loss or death only to be saved the most moving. At Helm's Deep when Theoden and Aragorn are setting forth from the Hornburg with one last sortie against the vast hordes and then the horns ring out! .... Where it describes the horn blasts carrying on and being sounded from the hills my belief is that it was the Ents hooming or Gandalf's foot soldiers arriving at the perfect moment....Don't know why but this causes a v.powerful hope emotion in me that brings me to tears. For exactly the same reason the Seige of Minas Tirith when Gandalf is facing the Witch King and after the cock crows, "Horns! Horns" Rohan had come at last!".....Blub.....these points really do it for me.

RosieCotton

12-13-2002, 04:24 PM

I know what you mean....those inspirational moments where certain defeat turns into victory!

:) Rosie:)

Elfstone.

12-13-2002, 04:50 PM

Dude you caught exactly what i was talking about. It's not just the sad moments that Tolkien can fully portray it's the honor, valor, love, the struggle its all so powerful. Not one of Tolkien's words is wasted, every word brings life to the text. Truly magnificent, the battles with the horns of war are very very moving.

Davie the Dunadan

Fimbrethil

02-06-2003, 06:40 PM

Ok so I know most of you guys are talking about the books but what about in TTT when Aragorn tells Arwen to keep her necklace
!sob, gulp!I cried like a baby. And I was in the theaters.

Elvellyn

02-06-2003, 08:45 PM

Im crying just reading all these posts.
*sobs*

Wayfarer

02-06-2003, 09:17 PM

I once cried... I was eating onions.

Elvellyn

02-06-2003, 09:30 PM

haha wayfarer
not even once???
have you no heart:) :D :cool: :D

Pimpernel

02-06-2003, 09:37 PM

I almost cried in TTT when Haldir dies, but I hardly ever cry. But I do have v. powerful happy emotions. like in TTT when Gandalf comes with the Rohirrim and Eomer's like, 'Rohirrim!!' and they come crashing down the hill, I raise up my arms like I'm at a frickin sports game. the people behind me in the theater were like 'what the hell.' i think my friend was embarrased, she was like, 'what are you doing?' i say,' I'm cheering for our team! what else would i be doing?' i've done that every time I've seen the movie now (only 5 times boohoo! i wanna c it again!)
i did almost cry again tho, when Smeagol goes back to Gollum w/ Faramir. :( so sad. and when gollum comes out of the trees at the v. end like, 'come on hobbits.' ahhh...sad things to come. poopoo. i think i might've been on the verge of tears when i read the last lines of TTT. frodo's captured alive and poor sam! poo again! and during the grey havens.
during FotR the film, when i watched the extended version for the 1st time by myself, i didnt hold back at all: i cried when Bilbo 'goes gollum at frodo, poor old hobbit, when boromir dies, when gandalf 'dies', and i think there was another time, but im not sure.
tolkien was a depressed person. most of his friends died in WW1 (or 2 dont kno which one he fought in, sry) and that was when he wrote the books of lost tales. didnt read 'em yet but expect them to be sad too. ME is v. depressing. poo.
whoa, me wrote a lot.
the rambling drunken hobbit

Laurus Nobilis

02-06-2003, 09:50 PM

I cried in many moments, and some make me cry even more now that I've reread the book a couple of times and grasp the true meaning of them. Some of the most notorious are:

*When Frodo is about to give up near Minas Morgul, but decides he has to finish what he's doing no matter what.
*When Sam thinks Frodo is dead.
*When Sam discovers they've cut down the Party Tree.
*When Merry cries on Theoden's grave.
*When Elrond tells Frodo he should be among the heroesof old time like Beren.

And I cried throughout all of the Silmarillion... Everyone I liked died horribly. :(

Wayfarer

02-06-2003, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by Elvellyn
haha wayfarer
not even once???
have you no heart:) :D :cool: :D

I do so! It's the latest model- granite, marble, and titanium.

Elfstone.

02-07-2003, 05:02 PM

The original post didnt actually mean if you "actually balled your eyes out, crying like a baby." It was more meant to ask of whom felt the truly deep touch Tolkien ignites in his literature. More or less when you read the books did you find yourself, smiling, laughing, getting hyper, shaking, jumping, getting angry, frustrated, and thinking about it 25 hours a day 8 days a week(if you catch me drift).

Basically you do not have to weep to feel the emotions, more or less I myself only felt the 'single tear run down my cheek.' However i am glad to see that in this present day of movies, TV, and anything but literature that people can still be moved by text on a page. Alas, it gives me hope that one day after I'm done going to university for english that i may write something that could touch people too.

davie the dunadan

Elvellyn

02-07-2003, 07:11 PM

Narsil's Master

02-07-2003, 08:30 PM

i got mad because it was over

samwiselvr2008

02-08-2003, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by Narsil's Master
i got mad because it was over

I didn't fill mad, I just felt sorda sad that I was finished, but I new that there were other ME realated books, and that I would still be able to look forward to new movie prevews and junk like that, even though it swarms more over PJ's ME in a way then Tolkien's ME. I also new that I could reread them anytime I wanted to, because for some reason, before I even read any of the books, I had this strange filling that it would be a book that I would like, probally because I had just seen Fellowship the weekend before so, I bought a copy of the seriese +The Hobbit as soon as I saw them on sell. But I was still sad, because I didn't want the book to end, I mean, the mane journy was compleated. After jumping into the seriese for the second time, I noticed that I had missed alot of stuff, and now I have read it 3 times (pritty good for only about 1 1/12 of a year, at least for me, I'm a slow reader) ther is probally alot that I still missed. So I can look forward, always, to finding stuff that is hidden in with the rest.

Elf Girl

02-08-2003, 08:08 PM

When I finished it, I cried. I didn't cry when Sam thought Frodo was dead because I went into shock at that point.

Lady of Rohan

02-08-2003, 11:16 PM

I sometimes cry when Boromir dies, when Theoden dies, and when Sam thinks that Frodo is dead. But I always cry at the Grey Havens chapter and in the Hobbit when Thorin dies.

Lady of Rohan

02-08-2003, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by Pimpernel
..... like in TTT when Gandalf comes with the Rohirrim and Eomer's like, 'Rohirrim!!' and they come crashing down the hill, I raise up my arms like I'm at a frickin sports game. the people behind me in the theater were like 'what the hell.' i think my friend was embarrased, she was like, 'what are you doing?' i say,' I'm cheering for our team! what else would i be doing?' i've done that every time I've seen the movie now (only 5 times boohoo!

lol! :D

Legolas_GreenLeaf

02-08-2003, 11:28 PM

When I finished it, I cried. I didn't cry when Sam thought Frodo was dead because I went into shock at that point.

That is exactly how I felt when Sam thought Frodo was dead. I was in complete shock :eek: :eek: :eek: and I didn't cry...I don't remember crying when Boromir died though, but I cried when Frodo went to the Grey Havens...that was so sad.:( :(
But then again, I'm always emotional in books. :)

Diamond

02-09-2003, 04:16 AM

It is a rare book that can make me shed a tear. Movies, yes, movies I will once in a blue moon be at the point of making a spectacle of myself (not on purpose, I assure you, remind me to tell you the story about SW2 sometime), but yes; books are a rare thing.

For me, Tolkien is sort of emotionally draining. I'll be all happy and squeefull (i.e. Faramir and Éowyn, I'm pretty sure my teacher thought I was a nutcase when I was sitting in my desk going, "Aw... that's so adorable...") and, lets face it, things can look pretty hopeless at some points. Ups and downs, high points and low points -- its madness, I tell you.

Di

Wayfarer

02-09-2003, 04:31 AM

The books that make you cry, diamond- are they printed on onionskin paper? :D

Legolas_GreenLeaf

02-09-2003, 10:41 AM

Onionskin paper lol...Are you saying that you've never cried while reading a book, like LoTR, Wayfarer?

Diamond

02-09-2003, 06:49 PM

Perhaps. Its usually only if I'm really attached to a character and they die or summat. Or if they situation is particularly hopeless and if I'm in a crying mood. Just sort of depends.

Di

The Lady of the Wood

02-11-2003, 08:33 PM

i didnt cry at the end, but i was really close to crying.i was like no!this cant be the end of LOTR!i wish there were more!

All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost,
The old that are strong do not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.
From ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring!
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be King!

Òevil will always triumph, because good is dumb.Ó

-darth helmet

donÕt count on me to let you know when.donÕt count on me, ill do it again. dont count on me, the point youre missing, donÕt count on me, cause im not listening.

Òyou insult me with your presenceÓ