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Frodo'sGirl
12-29-2001, 10:07 PM
If you could change anything or add anything to the wonderful
magical lord of the rings trilogy what would it be?
If anything I would add more to the book like what happened to Frodo and the others after the Grey Havens.
What about u guys?

CardenIAntauraNauco
12-30-2001, 02:22 AM
I would have loved to hear more about the other Istari.
particularly Radagast the Brown. It would prove very interesting reading material.

Play Girl
12-30-2001, 07:23 AM
More girls! I would like to know more about what happened in the Shire during their absense. What happened with Legolas and Gimli in Lothlorien to make them become best friends, more about the ents and where their wives could possible could have got to.
Ah well I suppose just more of everything really.
Play Girl

KGamgee
01-01-2002, 09:15 PM
If you wanna know more about the characters after the book, look in Appendix B, towards the end. (Sam has 13 kids, is elected mayors 7 times, Merry gets married, and a bunch of other cool stuff):)

Spock
01-02-2002, 12:40 PM
I fully agree; reading can provide many answers.

Renille
01-02-2002, 01:51 PM
I would make it certain whether the Balrog had wings or not. :D
Also, Pippin and Merry should have been more central characters. But that's just my humble opinion.

Kirinki54
01-02-2002, 05:44 PM
I would love to read a scene where Gandalf have gone to have his long awaited talk with Tom Bombadil. The things they might tell each other! :)

Strange-Looking Lurker
01-02-2002, 06:21 PM
I would love to hear more about Legolas and Gimli after the book. Their work in Gondor and the Glittering Caves. I would REALLY like to learn more about when Legolas took Gimli over the sea! Ent's and entwives. I'd like to know more about Gandalf and Aragorn's relationship and adventures. And a bunch of other things!

IronParrot
01-03-2002, 03:36 AM
In addition to the Three Rings for the Elves, Seven for Dwarves and Nine for Men, I'd add Five for Ents!

"Five Rings for the big tree-things..."

andustar
01-03-2002, 12:45 PM
As for what I want to know...

"The names of all the stars, and of all living things, and the whole history of Middle Earth and Over-heaven and of the Sundering Seas."

And yes, what Gandalf and Bombadil said to each other, what happened to the Ents, and most definately the Five Rings.

Wasn't it agreed that they had escaped to the Christmas carol? "on the fifth day of Christmas..." ;) I seem to remember a thread like that...

bropous
01-03-2002, 12:53 PM
Heck, I wouldn't add to, nor subtract from, the Master's handiwork. To me, it is fleshed out just perfectly, leaving room for speculation, mental gymnastics, and endless lovely discussions by people like us!

Just me humble rntingish opinion...

Thorongil
01-03-2002, 05:12 PM
Find out about the Isari in Unfinished Tales

Ñólendil
01-03-2002, 08:02 PM
My only real gripe with the romance is the inadequate explanation of the Dunlending/Rohir feud, though it is explained elsewhere I think the LotR would be improved by its inclusion. Perhaps it could be explained to Gimli on their journey to the Hornburg.

afro-elf
01-03-2002, 08:21 PM
Well, you guys know me.

There would be BARANAVAIR. Please note the proper plural use Inoldonil :)

Maybe some BARANOLDOR. Did I get that correct? ( though probably harder to EASILY fit into Tolkien's world that the former and the following)

And since Bor and his sons where dark skinned AND loyal, some of his people would have gone to Numenor and have been among the Faithful so there would have been some BARANDUNEDAIN.


And of course, there would be the deleted scence where Harry Potter and his two pals from the movie accidently transport themselves to ME and all get hideously slaughtered by the Witch-King. :)

Pailan
01-03-2002, 08:23 PM
Some mushroom recipies would be fun :p

But seriously, I always wanted to read about the journey from the Grey Havens. To see how Frodo and Bilbo were received there. To find out why Galadreil took so long to leave ME.

I guess I just never want the story to end.

ChildofEru
01-03-2002, 08:54 PM
after reading lort i longed for more knowledge of the elves. then i started to read sillmarillion (1/2 way though it)
ow... its like reading the bible only with elves and valar
lots of info though which is good
the grey havens is my only wish now.

emplynx
01-03-2002, 09:03 PM
I would like to have read more about people and daily life of the shire.

Schvenn Of The Schack
01-03-2002, 09:09 PM
I'm now going to incorporate all of your ideas into a TV sitcom that I'm writing right now!!!
hehehe

:: ducking, running and dodging as I leave ::

ChildofEru
01-03-2002, 09:33 PM
has anyone ever had to the urge to create a hobbit society?
like find a bunch of homless midgets with hairy feet and give them all the tools needed to be hobbits?
....

i havnt either.....

Renille
01-03-2002, 11:30 PM
No, but there is such a thing as the Shire! It's in Illinois, and I've seen it twice in the past week. (Okay, so it's a company that's called 'Shireland,' I saw the billboard out the car window, and I think it has to do with horses or metal or something rather than hobbits. But it did say Shire.

CardenIAntauraNauco
01-05-2002, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by Thorongil
Find out about the Isari in Unfinished Tales
Really? I thought I heard that. Thank you very much. I'll pick that up. Does it have anything about Radagast?

KGamgee
01-07-2002, 01:56 PM
Really? There's a real Shire?
Those people are probably made fun of a lot. Imagine going up to someone and saying, "Hi. I'm from the Shire." They would think that you needed some help of they knew about LOTR.
:D
I would like to know what happened to Frodo, Bilbo, and Sam after they left the Havens.

andustar
01-11-2002, 09:38 AM
Carden- it's mostly Gandalf and Saruman, but it does mention him. It has a conversation between the Valar over who to send! I was so happy when I found that. Read it.

As you've guessed, Thorongil, I've read it already :) When I said more about the Istari, I really meant MORE ;) Although I haven't read all the HoME books, or Letters.

Nenya
01-12-2002, 11:42 AM
Like everyone else, I want to know what happens once Frodo and Bilbo get to the Grey Havens. I also want to know what became of the sons of Elrond. If I have interpreted what I have read correctly, then they had the same choice as Arwen; to go to the Havens with Elrond, or remain on Middle Earth and become mortal. It does not specifically mention them in the Grey Havens chapter (only "Gildor and many fair elven folk"), but neither is there any mention in the appendices of anything they may have done afterwards if they had remained on middle Earth. Can anyone shed any light on this?

afro-elf
01-12-2002, 12:44 PM
Nenya there is mention of them in the appendices.

They stayed in Rivendell. Celeborn even joined them for awhile.

Nenya
01-12-2002, 06:53 PM
Yeah, I know, I found that about half an hour after I posted...how stupid do I feel now?

Aragorn
01-12-2002, 07:00 PM
I would, like others, like to know what happened to Frodo and Bilbo and the others journeying to the Grey Havens. I also would like to know about the changes Aragorn made in Gondor.

bropous
01-13-2002, 01:07 AM
Uh, you know, the appendices ARE there for additional information, folks. Try the info on the Fourth Age, Aragorn. Tells you exactly what Aragorn did as King Elessar of Gondor, and about his final passing, as well as that of Arwen. Also covers how Pippin became the head Took, and of Merry's rise in the community, as well as Samwise's descendants founding and settling the Westmarch.

As to wanting to know what happened when Bilbo and Frodo got to the Grey Havens, didn't you folks read the last chapter in the book? They got on the boat and sailed to the Undying Lands in Eldamar. Then Sam, Merry and Pippin rode home together wordlessly, Sam came in the door at Bag End, sat down in his chair, Rosie had dinner all ready, set Elanor in his lap, and he said, "Well, I'm back."

Maybe some are confusing Cirdan's Grey Havens for Eldamar.

Legolas_BowKing
01-27-2002, 03:02 AM
I would want to learn more about Legolas and Gimli there past were they came from and what they did in there daily lives before the ring had ever been heard of.
Also more feamales dosent it seem just a little bit weird that there are only 3 feamales throughout the whole book. I wouldnt like a romance as such but im sure that maybe they could have a little more of a role toward's the evil in the world.

Radagast
01-27-2002, 06:53 AM
Read about me, folks! I'm just fascinating!

eowyn144
02-08-2002, 04:53 PM
i'd like 2 know all of the stuff everyone else has said. also if the ents ever found their entwives. i think that would be very interesting. by the way- is it advised that i should read The Histrory of Middle Earth?is it easier or harder than the silmarillion?

strider8
04-04-2005, 02:34 PM
i would put put in a chapter about the first age,it would probably be about the battle of the dead marches. :)

CrazySquirrel
04-05-2005, 01:17 PM
I would have deleted the Ent stuff. And all the hobbit geneology etc.Dull it seems to me. Instead I would have put more bad guys POV.

Jon S.
04-05-2005, 10:38 PM
I wouldn't delete a thing but I agree on more about the bad guys. I would like to understand how the events of the time looked to Sauron and his Wringraiths/Leutenants' from their points of view.

I also, in retrospect and now that I'm thinking about it, regret how the bad guys were made to be so utterly and incorrigibly evil. Think about it. The good guys aren't perfectly good, there's an evil wizard, corrupt men, and in the Simarillion, at least, elves that misbehave pretty badly, too.

What I'm trying to say is perhaps the Prof. could have made the bad guys less than completely one-dimensional.

And now that I've shot my reputation here completely to hell ... :eek: :)

Gordis
04-06-2005, 06:04 AM
I wouldn't delete a thing but I agree on more about the bad guys. I would like to understand how the events of the time looked to Sauron and his Wringraiths/Leutenants' from their points of view..
one-dimensional.
Don't worry about your reputation.
I read somewhere, perhaps in Tolkien's Letters(?), that he himself FELT like a hobbit. As for me, I never feel that way. And I guess few of the modern man feel that way. Or am I wrong?
Hobbits and people with hobbit POV are not at all interested in evil. For them it is something remote and pretty one-dimentional.

But I think that a tread aiming to reconstruct evil guys POV at different points in LOTR would be quite interesting.

Manveru
04-06-2005, 09:22 PM
i love lotr just the way it is. part of what is great about it is that we dont know everything. there is whole parts of the mythology he only touches on. if he explained everything in detail we probably wouldnt be here arguing if balrogs had wings or what the 2 blue wizards actually accomplished. i once read an essay or something on lotr that said this was one of the best things about it. it said something about "we always want to go on and explore the parts of the map where no characters go, the parts marked 'here be dragons'"