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afro-elf
12-20-2001, 04:42 AM
there have been a few threads ( some started by me) concerning the "power" of elves


i think everyone agrees that elves are more beautiful,immortal amd immune to sickness and disease, nd more resistant to weather extremes


on pg 121 to PARAPHRASE

the moriquendi and men were equal in stature and strength

but the morquendi were greater in wisdom, skill and beauty


AND the calaquendi were greater than the morquendi in these departments than the morquendi were to men

only the sindar of doriath tutored by melian come close to the calaquendi



on 137

noldor ( i finally got it right inoldonil) were greater of mind and body and were greater warriors and sages
than the morquendi


but i'm on ch 15 so we will see what happens as i read more

afro-elf
12-20-2001, 04:47 AM
PS


i'm glad to hear that the VALAR did not TOTALLY forsake the dwellers in ME

afro-elf
12-21-2001, 05:21 AM
and YES elves had magic

if the words wizardary, arts, enchantment AND the description of the things that happened is not magic ...

Brimvalir
03-25-2002, 05:45 PM
The Elves were closer to the Gods than Humans or Dwarves

Wulažg
04-09-2002, 04:13 PM
Just how big werethese Noldori anyway? I mean, they had to be taller than the Nœmenoreans, right? The later Nœmenoreans were at least six feet (6'4!!) and the earlier ones were "greater in stature and wisdom" so these elves must have been HUGE. I mean, Fingolfin must have been pretty big to stand ANY chance in single combat with Morgoth, F‘anor needed three Balrogs to take him down, and you've seen the movie, that's how big the things were about. They should have been calling the Edain "halflings"!

afro-elf
04-10-2002, 12:21 AM
well galadriel is 6'4" (193cm)

Ñólendil
04-10-2002, 01:08 AM
Personally I think the Balrog of the movie was grossly large considering the source material (he is a "dark form, of man-shape maybe, yet greater" in The Bridge of Khazad-dum). In The Road Goes Ever On Tolkien says that when the Valar incarnated themselves their forms were "majestic but not gigantic". It's thus quite possible that Morgoth when he fought Fingolfin was merely (if you want to use the word "merely") Troll-sized.

I think it's in Númenórëan Linnear Measurements, an Appendix to The Disaster of the Gladden Fields (where afro-elf, I assume, got his info. about Galadriel), that Tolkien says the average height of the Dunedain before the Fall of Andor, and the High-elves, was seven feet. Males, anyway.