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samwise of the shire
12-10-2001, 05:57 PM
For any of you Redwallers let's talk about one of the greatest series of all time. Well next to LOTR that is.
Sam
Matto Baggins
12-18-2001, 12:03 AM
redwall is one of the most extensive worlds next to lotr.
webwizard333
12-20-2001, 02:10 PM
It's been awhile since I've read them, but I still remeber how good they are. Very imaginative and I loved the dialects (though the dialects did cause much re-reading). Which one did you enjoy the most? For me it's Redwall , the first one. I liked how there were two distinct villains, the adder and the whip-tail rat, what's-his-name. I liked The Outcast too with all the wuestions about inheritance of evil, I still haven't figured out if the son of Swartt meant to <spoiler>
give up his life
<end spoiler>
All inall, very good and highly imaginative, the sort of book I was caught reading in class and got in trouble for .;)
GoldenMallorn
12-21-2001, 07:12 PM
I've read most of them, save for the newest one and I hav eonly to wait a little while for it. My favorite one was the Legend of Luke and Marlfox, although I enjoyed reading The Outcast as well. Yeah Veil meant to give up his life for the mousey gel. I weep every time I read it. I feel sorry for Skarlath I like that bird and the two otters. Too funny for words.
Alethes
12-30-2001, 12:07 AM
My favorites are probably Mossflower and Mattimeo.
I really like the dialogue, especially the moles' speech.
I used to know the detailed plot of the first 10 (which I have), so I stopped reading them for a while. Now I have forgotten a lot of the stories, so I probably should read them again at some point.
galadriel88
01-02-2002, 02:20 PM
I might start reading them after I finish LOTR (I'm reading it 4 the first time).
Bradistic
02-19-2002, 07:35 PM
Can any of you tell me how many there are and in what order they go in?
Thanks in advance.
Alethes
02-20-2002, 11:49 PM
There are 14, plus a couple of shorter stories that don't fit in the chronological order.
Martin the Warrior (6)
Mossflower (2)
The Legend of Luke (12)
Outcast of Redwall (8)
Mariel of Redwall (4)
The Bellmaker (7)
Salamandastron (5)
Redwall (1)
Mattimeo (3)
Pearls of Lutra (9)
The Long Patrol (10)
Marlfox (11)
Taggerung (14)
Those are listed in the chronological order in terms of plot, not the chronological order in which they were written. The number after each one indicates the order in which they were written. I'm missing one -- Lord Brocktree (13)-- because I haven't read it yet, but it's towards the beginning somewhere. I didn't put the short stories in because they don't really fit in anywhere.
Starr Polish
02-21-2002, 12:01 AM
You can read them in any order though, but I do believe that Mossflower is actually number one, since it tells of the original Martin and the founding of Redwall Abbey, but it was written after the original Redwall.
RosieCotton
03-02-2002, 01:13 PM
Oh, I love Redwall! I love how the moles talk. My favs are Mattimeo, Redwall, and Pearls of Lutra. These books were the ones that got me really into the fantasy genre.
~Rosie~
Khadrane
03-03-2002, 12:01 AM
I love the way the moles talk too! I made my dad read The Long Patrol once. I don't think he's ever forgiven me...:)
Alethes
03-03-2002, 08:25 PM
I made a deal with my dad that if he would read Mossflower, I would read In His Steps. I read my book on a long trip shortly after we made that deal, but it took Dad a year to read Mossflower. I had to keep reminding him to read it. :D
RosieCotton
03-26-2002, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Khadrane
I love the way the moles talk too! I made my dad read The Long Patrol once. I don't think he's ever forgiven me...:)
Haha. I tried to make my Mom read the whole series once, but she found a way out of it. :D
~Rosie~
Khadrane
03-26-2002, 12:42 PM
I was getting my dad back for all the Louis L'amour books he made me read.:)
Radagast
03-27-2002, 10:53 AM
I have only ever read one and a half redwall books. I picked up The Pearls of Lutra and that was exceptional, but then I tried some of the others and found them nauseatingly base. I probably haven't given them a fair chance but they just aren't to my taste.
RosieCotton
03-27-2002, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by Radagast
I have only ever read one and a half redwall books. I picked up The Pearls of Lutra and that was exceptional, but then I tried some of the others and found them nauseatingly base. I probably haven't given them a fair chance but they just aren't to my taste.
Pearls of Lutra was my favorite
Rosie
Menelvagor
03-28-2002, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by Radagast
I have only ever read one and a half redwall books. I picked up The Pearls of Lutra and that was exceptional, but then I tried some of the others and found them nauseatingly base. I probably haven't given them a fair chance but they just aren't to my taste.
If the one you started reading was Redwall the begining is very basic. I have read that book about 15 times, but I always skip the first few chapters, there just laughable and fluffy when compared to the rest. Kind of like The Hobbit, written without the full realization of the world; nessisary (I can never spell that word) to read, but pure fluff. Don't judge the rest of that book by it, it actually has one of the most complex plots.
Alethes - Lord Brocktree goes at the very begining.
Starr Polish - (being nitpicky, sorry :rolleyes: ) Lord Brocktree and Martin the Warrior take place before Martin came to Mossflower, so they go before Mossflower
Khadrane
03-29-2002, 01:57 PM
Just wondering, which comes first- Lord Brocktree or Martin the Warrior? That question has been bugging me for awhile.:)
Menelvagor
03-30-2002, 06:11 PM
I put Lord Brocktree first, but thinking about it now, those too are pretty much interchangeable. For me it just flows better, going directly from Martin's early life to his arrival in Mossflower.
elf_princess
04-03-2002, 11:36 PM
I love redwall!!! it's one of my favorite series. My favorite book would have to be Mossflower or else the Pearls of Lutra. I myself like the hares... they're hilarious! My favorite character would have to be Basil Stag Hare... or else baby Rollo... or Arwen the squirrel... or....
elf_princess
04-03-2002, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by Starr Polish
You can read them in any order though, but I do believe that Mossflower is actually number one, since it tells of the original Martin and the founding of Redwall Abbey, but it was written after the original Redwall.
Martin the Warrior is the first book chronologically because it tells about Martin before he gets to Mossflower woods... his life before that and all that stuff...
TwirlingString
04-15-2002, 01:56 PM
The babies and rabbits tend to be heros don't they? I think Rollo is my fav. baby, but Arwen definatly comes in at a close second. You have to love the mountain birds!:D
Hans Moleman
04-17-2002, 10:51 AM
In the redwall series has anyone noticed the uncanny relationship between thhe badgers and rabbits?
They both appear in Salamandrastron, which may i add was the most dissapointing book in the series, in the most 'family guy' way.
TwirlingString
04-17-2002, 12:47 PM
The badgers are basically their lords. Read Taggerung was it to see what happens when the rabbits don't have badgers around to boss them when they're in large groups. What did you mean by family guy manner?
Lady of Darkness
04-22-2002, 08:26 PM
I am a major Redwall fan!! I have every one of his books and will die if he doesn't write anymore of them!!!!!!(note excemation points) I love all the adventures. I cried :( :( :( when Rose died. the biggest question is that why did she die? What purpose did it serve? (stupid Question, sorry)
rainbow
04-23-2002, 01:10 PM
i love redwall! unfortunaly i read then in the rong order and got rather confused but now ive got a list(sort of) i can work my way through them properly!thanx
elf_princess
04-23-2002, 09:25 PM
Redwall is great. wonderful. stupendous. fantastic. marvelous. excelent. any other word you can come up with... I read them out of order too... rather confusing isn't it???
What's everybody's favorite book in the series??? I would have to say Mossflower or else Pearls of Lutra... they're all good though.
Lady of Darkness
04-26-2002, 06:01 PM
They are all awesome so I can't think of my favorite. Lord Brocktree (which is supposted to really be the first even though it's really new) is, in my personaly opinion, almost the funniest. I probably should read them again to see which is my favorite.:D
TwirlingString
04-27-2002, 07:40 PM
My favs are probably Mattemio and Mariel of redwall. I read the sequal to that one too.
Lady of Darkness
04-29-2002, 07:24 PM
I heard that Brian Jaquces said that if we kept reading the books, he'll keep writing them. Anyone know if it is true? If so, keep reading! If not, Keep reading!!!:D :D
elf_princess
04-29-2002, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Lady of Darkness
I heard that Brian Jaquces said that if we kept reading the books, he'll keep writing them. Anyone know if it is true? If so, keep reading! If not, Keep reading!!!:D :D
LOL... Lady of Darkness, I believe I shall... KEEP READING!!! I've heard this rumor too actually... hopefully it is true!
Lady of Darkness
04-29-2002, 08:18 PM
HEHEHEHE. I do believe I saw this rumor on this interview w/ him as the guest. It better be right!:cool: :)
elf_princess
04-29-2002, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Lady of Darkness
HEHEHEHE. I do believe I saw this rumor on this interview w/ him as the guest. It better be right!:cool: :)
I hope it is!! We can only wish...*crosses all her fingers, toes, pulls out an eyelash and blows it away, finds a star and wishes on it* there... that should be good enough...:)
Lady of Darkness
04-30-2002, 06:24 PM
Okay then. cross my heart hope to die, stick an needle in my eye w/ stew and fry. those two sho be perfect together.
IronParrot
04-30-2002, 11:59 PM
I know the guy who designed Brian Jacques' website, Dave Lindsay. He goes to my school, and he's an outstanding guitarist.
As for the Redwall novels themselves, I've only read the original Redwall, and that was many years ago. I never really got into it... I just found Horwood's Duncton Chronicles (the first trilogy, not so much the second) to be far superior in terms of an animal-personification epic. But I suppose Redwall is more accessible for younger readers.
Khadrane
07-26-2002, 09:00 PM
I haven't read Taggerung yet and I was wonering if anyone could tell me where it comes in the series.
Sylvee Estel
07-26-2002, 10:39 PM
I also love Redwall! I haven't read them all yet, I am in the middle of The Pearls of Lutra. Next I need to read The Long Patrol and Taggerung, then I will have read them all! I love them all, I especially like Martin the Warrior. It was especially sad when Rose died!!! That was awful. But anyway, I heard that Brian Jacques was going to keep writing one a year, I hope he keeps on writing!!!
Lady of Darkness
07-27-2002, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by Khadrane
I haven't read Taggerung yet and I was wonering if anyone could tell me where it comes in the series.
Taggerung is about a Otter who is kidnapped by a clan of evil rats and vermin. it's also about his jorney to find out who he really is. I'm trying not to spoil the book so I really can't give you much. sry
:D :( :D
hehehehehehehe
LoD
Khadrane
07-27-2002, 03:40 PM
Actually, I meant where does it come chronologically (like between what books) so I can know where to put it on my bookshelf. But thanks for the info.:)
TwirlingString
07-30-2002, 07:24 PM
I think his was at the end. I think it was a martin one. (the other one!)
Lady of Darkness
07-31-2002, 11:58 AM
Wich one is the 2nd martin one? I can't remember because SOMEONE! *whistles innocently and points at her brother at the same time* stole all of them. yeah. Taggerung is the latest, I think
LoD
Faramir
08-01-2002, 11:27 PM
I love the Redwall series! It's the best(next to LotR)! I love the shrews and the moles! Molespeach is very funny. So far I've read Lord Brocktree, Martin the Warrior, The Bellmaker, Mariel of Redwall, Marlfox, Outcast of Redwall, and Salamandastron. My favorite is Lord Brocktree. And for anyone who doesn't alreday know or thinks otherwise, Lord Brocktree is first chronologically.
Palanturiel
08-03-2002, 11:35 PM
I've been reading the Redwall Books since i was like 8. that was before i read LOTR. Now i have practically all the books in both series'. I dont have taggerung, but thats it. and on the question of the order of the books, just go to http://www.redwall.org and it tells you everything you could ever want to know. but personally i cant choose between the 2 authors or any of the books. :p
No idea which ones the best! ive read them all 3times(Except taggerung I read once and brocktreetwice) And I get them all muddled. I like them all. Im almost positive old Brockers is first then martin.
Faramir
08-21-2002, 10:39 AM
The second Martin one is Mossflower. Since that post, I've read Redwall, Mattimeo, The Taggerung, and The Long Patrol.
P.S. I have Redwall RPG site. If you want the URL, PM me.:)
Elenka
08-26-2002, 09:01 AM
I love the Redwall books. My favorites among what I have read so far are Mattimeo and Redwall. I love mole speech, its so funny. I also like how you can trace generations through the diferent books. :)
Lady of Darkness
08-31-2002, 10:24 PM
what i meant by the second Martin book was the one after Mattimeo.
Mattimeo names his shon Martin.
sorry for the confusion
i don't want schoollll!!!!!
die school DIEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
LoD
Sylvee Estel
09-01-2002, 01:11 PM
I just finished the Long Patrol. It was excellant. I love the hares!
TinuvielChild
09-13-2002, 11:09 PM
I used to love Redwall. I haven't read them in awhile, but my favorites are definitely:
Redwall
Martin the Warrior
Mattimeo
Mossflower
The Pearls of Lutra
The rest are good too, but after awhile they all seem to have the same plot. Just something I noticed after I read a lot of them.
Lady of Darkness
09-26-2002, 07:37 AM
yeah I know but you definatly gotta love 'em! the only thing i don't like is how there are no horses in them*pouts*. oh well *sighs*. I hope there is another one soon. anyone know?
the great and terrible Lady of Darkness is sick*throws up*
TolkienGurl
11-08-2002, 04:14 PM
I've read the Redwall books consistently for about 5 years now. I absolutely love them! Did you know there's a new one out? I think its called Triss. I have all of the books, except the new one, which I'm going to buy once I have the money (:rolleyes:).
They were originally written for blind children. That's why they are so descriptive and the dialects so unique.
Redwall is definitely one-of-a-kind!
TwirlingString
11-09-2002, 06:00 PM
rggh I need to pay more attention! I HAVE to get that book! I've gotten so addicted to Hp fanfiction latelt that I've been missing everything!
Silverstripe
11-13-2002, 01:43 PM
I really like the Redwall series (see my name? :))
My two best friends and I sometimes joke about being a Squelf, Mobbit, and Dwole (squirrel-elf, mouse-hobbit, dwarf-mole). My favorite books in the series are Redwall, Mossflower, Mariel of Redwall, and The Bellmaker.
gandalffan2525
11-13-2002, 06:32 PM
has any one seen the cartoons?
if not, DONT!! they are horrible!
the attemps at all the diffrent dialects are, are, augh!!
on a happier note: triss is the next book and its pretty good.
TwirlingString
11-13-2002, 08:17 PM
I used to watched them, they were really dumb, but they were worth it just to see the sparra.
Lief Erikson
11-14-2002, 02:29 AM
I've read all of them except the most recent one, and with varying degrees of enjoyment. Most of them have several things the same in them, and the plots and characters aren't too much different. Only when one occasionally comes out that really branches off of the old ones do I really get involved in it.
I really liked the Outcast of Redwall and Sunflash the Mace more than most of the others, if I remember correctly. I like the ones that cover a period of time in them, and also the ones in which the villains are unique.
Silverstripe
11-25-2002, 07:15 PM
From what I remember, as a general rule, the earlier books are better than the later ones. But hey! There aren't that many authors who can keep up a good series for more than a trilogy (many not even that), and BJ did.
TolkienGurl
11-25-2002, 07:37 PM
My favorites would have to be The Pearls of Lutra and Taggerrung. I can't wait until Friday! That's my birthday and I'm gonna buy Triss with my birthday-money! yay!:D
TwirlingString
11-28-2002, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by Lief Erikson
I've read all of them except the most recent one, and with varying degrees of enjoyment. Most of them have several things the same in them, and the plots and characters aren't too much different. Only when one occasionally comes out that really branches off of the old ones do I really get involved in it.
I really liked the Outcast of Redwall and Sunflash the Mace more than most of the others, if I remember correctly. I like the ones that cover a period of time in them, and also the ones in which the villains are unique.
Ugh I don't remeber Sunflash the Mace either, WHERE HAVE I BEEN?!!!!!
Renille
11-30-2002, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by Lady of Darkness
I cried :( :( :( when Rose died. the biggest question is that why did she die? What purpose did it serve? (stupid Question, sorry)
I think it served to show that Martin was, along with being a great hero, just an ordinary mouse who had to make sacrifices just like everyone else in Redwallland.
I was the most huge Redwall fan for years. My first ever RPG was as a mouse. A healer mouse. (It was more a pass-along-through-a-discussion-board-story than anything else.) But very fun.
I don't really like Redwall anymore...maybe it's just a negative phase...but I think I've outgrown them. The plot seems the same book after book after book. However, they are written in an addictive, colorful writing style that even I probably won't be able to resist...Can't wait until the next book! :p (Yes...my sentiments are a bit confused...oh well. )
Adrian Baggins
12-27-2002, 11:15 PM
I love redwall. I read Outcast of Redwall first. Anyone read the childrens book he wrote that's about 10 pages long. it is called the great redwall feast.
TolkienGurl
12-28-2002, 11:19 AM
Well, I've read Triss and it's another one of my favorites. I've also encouraged my sister to read the books, and she's part way through Redwall right now.
I really don't think there is a book called Sunflash the Mace. I'm pretty sure he was in Salamandastron.
Gwaimir Windgem
12-28-2002, 05:30 PM
I know he went to Salamandastron, but I thought he was in Outcast of Redwall? I'm pretty sure that one had two stories; I think one was Outcast of Redwall.
TolkienGurl
12-29-2002, 02:00 PM
Ok, I'm wrong! He was not in the book Salamandastron, but he was in Outcast. Thanks for catching my little mistake! :)
samwise of the shire
02-10-2003, 11:45 PM
What do you folks think of the food in Redwall? My mum found this website where they have recipies for drinks, desserts and all around favorites like Hotroot soup and Deeper n' ever pie. http://www.redwall.net/kitchen/
I've been wanting to read Triss. I'm going to read it once it's back at the library, but if it's anything like Taggerung...I thought it was a bit too tame.
My favorites are:
Marlfox
The Bellmaker
Mattimeo
The Legend of Luke
The Outcast of Redwall
And Salamandastron. All of them fighting books. I'm very warrior minded, and a cool character dies in every single one of 'em. :*( Doesn't make me too happy wot wot.
Cheers,
Sam
ps. Who're your favorite creatures? Mine are the otters and shrews.
RosieCotton
02-14-2003, 01:34 PM
I love Redwall! I haven't read the latest one, because I've been busy with a VERY long fantasy series, but I had better go get it out of the library. My favorite would have to be Mattimeo and Redwall though. They are all very good, but the originals have always seemed the best to me.
Rosie
WallRocker
02-14-2003, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by RosieCotton
I love Redwall! I haven't read the latest one, because I've been busy with a VERY long fantasy series
That's no excue to not read redwall:p:D Triss is awesome, you should read it:)
elendili
02-26-2003, 08:02 AM
I LOVED Redwall when i was a kid my fav. books were the ones set in Salamandastron and the early ones with Luke in but the last one i read was the one on the boat were Luke's dad toodles off to fight pirates. Have the mast recent ones been any good??
Elvengirl
02-26-2003, 10:02 AM
I love Redwall! I've read them all except Triss.
I love the badgers and the otters, oh and the hares and all the feasts! Yummm :D
ArwenEvenstar
03-02-2003, 04:47 PM
I love redwall so much, thanks to my gr.4 teacher!!! here's the list of books in order:
Lord Brocktree
Martin The Warrior
Mossflower
The Legend of Luke
Outcast of Redwall
Mariel of Redwall
The Bellmaker
Salamandastron
Redwall
Mattimeo
The Pearls of Lutra
The Long Patrol
Marlfox
Taggerung
Triss
go me i've read them all 'cept Triss.
elfstone&evenstar
03-03-2003, 09:53 AM
I love redwalll! next to lotr;)
I love gonff!!!!!
i love otters,hares,and squirrels lady amber rocks!
I also like the mask
i'm a beginner at redwall one of my bf's got me in to it!
It was love at the very first page!
I read redwall and I'm almost finished with mossflower
I love it!
But I have a gift you well maybe not a gift Little figures out of my book run around the house telling me to read its weird!
I
like though
is that the reading order you got there matey?
Well and some times I'll get on a reading role and start talking sparra,mole,or hare the rest of the day
well gotta go Martin's calling
Navaer
Khamûl
04-23-2003, 11:50 PM
I've just finished the original Redwall and loved it. My second favorite fantasy world.
Lady of Darkness
04-24-2003, 09:10 AM
new book new book new book new book!!!!
LoD
Raistlin
05-01-2003, 06:17 PM
i liked the whole series but the only problem with them is that he uses the same 5 basic plots through out the series
Lady of Darkness
05-01-2003, 07:00 PM
yes! but the animals are different!:D
lol
LoD
Belle
05-11-2003, 01:59 PM
I love Lady Amber. My fav book was Pearls of Lutra, but I think the badies in Redwall are classic.
Lady of Darkness
05-11-2003, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by Belle
I love Lady Amber. My fav book was Pearls of Lutra, but I think the badies in Redwall are classic.
oh yes. very much so... CLOG! he ws sooo funny! he went crazy!
and the wildcat....she was just mental....and Clunty the Scorge...all idiots...but smart at the same time.......ahhh....*wipes a tear from her cheek* dear dear Redwall...
LoD
Hans Moleman
08-07-2003, 08:51 AM
I believe that the author of the redwall series meerly copied the extensive wave of information that was present from the lord of the rings and the hobbit.
The hobbit was the foundations for a world-wide success story which has spanned 50 years of growth, depression and fame.
Lady of Darkness
08-11-2003, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Hans Moleman
I believe that the author of the redwall series meerly copied the extensive wave of information that was present from the lord of the rings and the hobbit.
The hobbit was the foundations for a world-wide success story which has spanned 50 years of growth, depression and fame.
question: how would he have done that? because the redwall series is not really like LOTR or the Hobbit. it does have it's similaries, yes, but honestly, all books seem to be connected to eachother.
going back and looking at the hobbit and LOTR, I see things that look like the redwall series, but you can do the same with other books. if anything, the redwall series copies itself over and over. I mean, after they built Redwall Abbey, the same thing seems to be happening. the hero goes on a trip for some reason, and the Abbey is put under attack by some evil thing.
maybe I should read them again, but personally, I don't think that Brian Jaques really copied much of anything, and that which it seems that he has was just a part of something that all fiction writers use.
LoD
PippinTook
08-12-2003, 08:40 PM
I have endured much ridicule from redwall. Told my friends I wanted to be Lady Amber. *hugs squirrel* lately I have been more into lotr, (which by far beats out redwall) but i love redwall. The riddles in the first book were great, not to mention the ending. I-am that is, ooh, chill bumps!!!! That made me all excited when I read that. I have found my place. *big group hug!*
Lady of Darkness
08-14-2003, 09:31 AM
myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy preeeeeeeeeeeccccccccccccciiiiiiiiiiiioooooooooooo uuuuuuuuuusssssssssssssssssss!!! ( the redwall books I mean...) *hugs redwall books to self*
which one was your favorite?
LoD
(as if you could choose! it would be like picking a favorite child.......but of course, I wouldn't know, considering I don't have any....lol)
b.banner
10-02-2003, 08:25 PM
i love redwall my favorites are redwall taggerung and martin the warrior
Elvedans
10-03-2003, 04:50 AM
I love the Redwall books, they're great to read in a suidgy armchair in front of the log fire on a snowy day. Unfortunately we don't get many snowy days here in Britain so i usually have to make do with the Stansted Express train to London in the rain.
My favourite has to be Martin the Warrior. The old ones are always the best.
Elvengirl
10-03-2003, 09:17 AM
There's a new book out right?
*memo to self, must read* :D
hectorberlioz
10-03-2003, 02:02 PM
Yeah! there is a new one out! its called "loamhedge".
b.banner
10-03-2003, 02:18 PM
did you know he has a new one out. it is called the legend of loamhedge.look for it at books a million
hectorberlioz
10-03-2003, 02:33 PM
just said that.
b.banner
10-03-2003, 02:40 PM
i know but you just called it loamhedge instead of the legend of loamhedge that is what it is really called:D
hectorberlioz
10-03-2003, 02:45 PM
oh! really? you saw it and it was called "the legend of loamhedge"?
b.banner
10-03-2003, 05:10 PM
redwall fans the new redwall book is out and im not joking:D
Elvedans
10-04-2003, 04:01 AM
Loamhedge is finally out? He's been writing that one for so long. The last one i read was Triss, i need a new one!
Elvengirl
10-04-2003, 11:33 AM
Is Triss any good?
Elvedans
10-04-2003, 04:07 PM
Of course it is, it's a Redwall book! But i kind of feel like i miss the good old days of Bella and Abbot Saxtus and co. while i'm reading it! I'm just the sort of person who sits there thinking Oh the good old days!
Tolman Muggworts
11-05-2003, 09:58 PM
I agree Redwall is my favorite series next to the Tolkien books. I also like the hares and Basil Stag hare. One thing I don't understand though is why the maps change so drastically from book to book.:confused:
hectorberlioz
11-05-2003, 10:39 PM
I was in Books a Million the other day. and I went to choose out a redwall book. I was mumbling the title to myself when someone tapped me on the shoulder and handed me the book I was looking for.
"I told you I'm not the only one who reads them" the lady said to her husband a I walked away after thanking her.
b.banner
11-08-2003, 06:51 PM
i cant wait to read loamhedge
b.banner
11-29-2003, 07:01 PM
i am finally reading it . :D it is so good :D
b.banner
12-06-2003, 03:43 PM
i am done!:D
Raistlin
12-07-2003, 07:13 AM
i am looking for it in my library but i can't find it
Rakkety_tamm
05-09-2005, 06:20 PM
I own every Redwall book written, and I am re-reading Marlfox for like the tenth time.
Nurvingiel
05-09-2005, 06:53 PM
Nice bump Rakkety. :)
I really like the Redwall series, and it is a very detailed world, which is cool. I especially enjoy the books about badgers, and the earlier history. My favourite part in Mattimeo is when they find the ruins of Loamhenge (IIRC).
I also enjoy the Badgers and the hilarious Rabbits quite a bit. Brian Jaques also writes dialect very well; dialect normally annoys me but I find his adds flavour to the characters.
I also love the feasts. I really want a meadowcream tart with strawberries. Mmm...
I have few complaints with the series. Minor: the excessively cute dibbuns and their excessively cute antics, being indulged by matronly nurses. (Fortunately it doesn't happen very much, and isn't central to the plot).
Also, the heroes solve complex puzzles and riddles just a little to easily IMO. (Though I really like the puzzles and riddles he writes. They are interesting plot devices, even though he uses this multiple times.)
Major: The abuse of anthropomorphism. I don't mind that all the animals talk, build stone abbeys, etc. but dividing animals into good and evil based on their species annoys me to no end. That and the fact that each book has more or less the same plot, are the only things that keep me from ravenously reading the entire series multiple times.
These are extremely well-written books, but why is it that rats, stoats, weasles and foxes are evil, while squirrels, mice, voles, shrews, rabbits, and badgers are good? (It's also slightly odd that they're all about the same size - at least to the degree that badgers and mice are happy living in the same building together. But I'm happy to overlook that.)
I mean really, what did a stoat or a rat ever do to you Mr. Jaques? It just seems unfair and arbitrary, and the stereotyping of each species (including the "good" ones, like shrews) is dull and irritating IMO.
I am not fond of the idea that just because someone was born a rat, they are inclined to being lazy, evil, and dishonest, and just because someone was born a squirrel, they are inclined to being athletic, kind, honest, and brave. The worst example of this was the young otter lad who was raised by pirates or something and turned out to be a decent, honest, and fairly well-adjusted chap. Um... how? (I think it was "The Pearls of Lutra", which was an exceedingly cool book aside from my one gripe.)
Well, enough of my rantage. They are great books, despite the boring stereotypes, and are very fun to read.
tolkienfan
05-09-2005, 10:52 PM
There was at least one good rat in the series. Didn't he make boats or something at the end? Sorry, haven't read them for a while. :o
Rakkety_tamm
05-12-2005, 06:30 PM
Snowfur's Redwall Encyclapediea,
GRUBBAGE. Oversized, overweight male wharf rat. Bosun of the Seascab under Captain Plugg Firetail. His ears were cut off long ago, and although he wore a turban to hide the stumps he was nearly deaf. He was a jolly and likable creature with some healing knowledge. He was taken captive by Redwallers but treated kindly, and he helped Triss navigate back to Riftgard.
Is this the rat you were talking about?
tolkienfan
05-12-2005, 06:40 PM
I think so. It is kind of weird though how some species are good and some evil. I know lots of people who really like having rats as pets.
Rakkety_tamm
05-12-2005, 08:04 PM
I'm writing a Redwall Fan Fiction, and my gf's editing for it. I've also gotten a Redwall Messege Board up, but Narinya and myself are the only two members.
Earniel
05-14-2005, 04:30 PM
So far the only Redwall-book I've read is Marlfox that I picked up at a cheap book fair. I liked it, it's pleasant to read without appearing childish. And it has some very distinct, well-established characters that keep you interested. It gave the idea that the world is much larger than the bits that are covered in the book, which is something that definitely adds to the story. Of course, at that point I had no idea there were so many books. :rolleyes:
I mean really, what did a stoat or a rat ever do to you Mr. Jaques?
That reminded me of a story that Tolkien's negative portayal of spiders stems from once being bitten by one as a child.
Telcontar_Dunedain
05-15-2005, 06:53 AM
I've read all of them apart from the last two. My favourite is probably Taggerung, I mean how cool are the otters
Rakkety_tamm
05-15-2005, 10:13 AM
Not as cool as squirrels, J/K, but, serisouly, I love squirrels.
Curubethion
08-27-2005, 04:12 PM
Not as cool as squirrels, J/K, but, serisouly, I love squirrels.
Squirrels may be cool, but otters rock!
august6
10-05-2005, 12:28 PM
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nasuada
05-23-2009, 12:15 PM
I like Mossflower,Mariel of redwall, The Pearls of Lutra..oh I like them all! I haven't read them all though. I read Doomwyte the most recent. I actually sent a letter and a picture, I drew, to brian Jacques and I got a letter back, with a lot of other cool things.:D
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