So is it worth reading then? :)

[Darkside Spirit]

Having read Lord of the Rings, and found it a little lengthy but for the most part enjoyable, would reading the Silmarillion be worthwhile? I'm slightly apprehensive since I've seen it described more than once as "enormous and unreadable".

What are the depth of the revelations it gives? How good is it as a book? And the general question: would you recommend that I read it?

[Bacchus]

I would wholeheartedly recommend the Sil, with some qualifications.

First, The Sil is very episodic in nature. There is not a specific set of characters that we follow for the length of the book.

Second, there are many characters, and quite a few of them have multiple names that are used fairly interchangably. This makes it rather difficult to follow the first time through. My suggestion here is to make up a chart as you are reading, or to refer often to the geneologies at the back of the text.

Third, remember that the Sil was published posthumously by Christopher. It does not have the same level of polish that LOTR does.

That said, IMO, it is definitely worth the time to read it. Then read LOTR again. You'll be amazed at the references to the Sil that you see in LOTR.

[Ñólendil]

' My suggestion here is to make up a chart as you are reading, or to refer often to the geneologies at the back of the text. '

There's no need for charts, use the Index! It'll tell you who a character is, though you have to be careful, if you read too much of an entry you'll learn how a character dies (many of the characters are slain, you'll find).

[Selwythe]

The Silmarillion isn't enormous and unreadable (300+ pages only). History of Middle Earth is. I got to the 4th book and never went on.

But you must definitely read Silmarillion. I'm guessing you have the same impression as I had, that Silmarillion is of struggles long and far away which do not concern LoTR, and the only characters you know will be Galadriel, Sauron and Elrond. Instead, you will find that you discover greater characters, and their heroics are much more than a single story of destroying a ring. The legends in ME are much more powerful than you think.

One thing though, Sil is more of a historical narrative, with very little dialogue but more informative and direct text.

[Wayfarer]

In a word: Yes.

[Bombadil's PR Guy]

The Silmarillion is an amazing work.
The heroic grand tone of the writing, along with the depiction of human (disguised as elves and ainur) nature at its foulest or finest make it seem like a true history. There certainly is a King James Version Old Testiment flavor to it which may make reading a little laborious as first, but one becomes accustomed to this once one becomes acclimated. The great thing about Tolkien's work is how expansive and ordered his universe is, and the vastness of Silmarillion really does make one further appreciate The Hobbit (even if these orcs were goblins, which makes me picture that spider-man villain....:rolleyes:) and LOTR, to place these novels into this immense setting.
My approach was not to spend too much time backtracking, or looking things up in the back, but to keep the flow going. Maybe one loses some of the factual, but gains a better intuitive feel that way. Can always read it again. Having just finished Sil last week, it really makes me itch to give LOTR another go...and I just read that last month.

[Finmandos12]

The Sil is definitely my favorite book ever. While the characters may seem more impersonal, I think they are more grand and majstic than most in LOTR.

[Lightice]

It's a lot better than Bible. Yes, I know, that doesn't tell much but yes, read it. It's a great book.
It may be too heavy to read for some people (including myself, when I first time read it) but if you can get over it, it's just great.
Same thing applies to many very good books.

[Elendil]

It Definitly is Harder to Follow then the other works of Tolkien, I would suggest if you are not doing the chart thing. to pick up a tolkien dictionary I bought one it it was invaluble when reading the sil

[ArwenEvenstar]

I'm reading it for the second time and IMO it's the best freakin book in the world! I would recommend reading it!:):D:)

[Kirinki54]

The Silmarillion is definitely a must for any serious Tolkien fan. It is a fantastic book, and it really gives that sense of wonder. However I cannot agree it is Tolkien´s best. Depends on what angle you look of course. But to me the prose of the LotR is so grand the Sil cannot rival it.

[Sister Golden Hair]

I agree that the Sil is a must read for anyone serious about Tolkien. Let me just say that if you love Elves, you will definately love the Sil. It can indeed be tough first time around, but also a rewarding experience. I've said it before, one of the best books if not the best book I've ever read.

[Bombadil's PR Guy]

When I was reading LOTR, there were so many references to the recent to distant past, that, although I was sad to have finished it, I was itching to find out all about where these creatures came from. Silmarillion provides a tremendously rich backdrop, whereby one again feels the need to re-read Lord of The Rings. I do understand that there is still more information to gather from the other works (I'm getting a couple Tolkien books for Christmas), but Silmarillion was thoroughly engrossing.

[Kirinki54]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Let me just say that if you love Elves, you will definately love the Sil.

Yes, I agree on that. To know Elves, the Sil is THE book! There is a richness of Elven history and individuals. Like that marvellous guy, was it Finrod or Thingol he was called...?
:D

[Ñólendil]

I'm pretty sure it was Thingol. Finrod was the guy who tried to kill Beren by leading him treacherously into the Isle of Werewolves. Or anyway that's how I remember it. :cool:

[Sister Golden Hair]

Kirinki and Inoldonil: :o :o :o :p :p :p :mad: :mad: :mad:

;)

[Ñólendil]

lol

[Kirinki54]

A lot of mixed emotions there, Sister? ;)

I never knew what hit me in that "King´s garb" thread ages ago, when I took Thingol as an example of a noble king... :D

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Kirinki54
A lot of mixed emotions there, Sister? ;)

I never knew what hit me in that "King´s garb" thread ages ago, when I took Thingol as an example of a noble king... :D One of my better threads. Thank you very much.:D

[eowyn144]

"When I was reading LOTR, there were so many references to the recent to distant past, that, although I was sad to have finished it, I was itching to find out all about where these creatures came from."

That is exactly how I felt!There was so much stuff I wanted to know about ME and elves and things that I couldn`t just sit there.I picked up the Sil. and from just reading a couple of pages I could tell it was just what I needed.I`m about half way through now but am definetley going to reread lotr.it will make so much more sense.
i just have one question that i could probably be slaughtered 4 asking but is going to kill me neway if i don`t get an answer:why is middle-earth called middle-earth?has it got something to do with the merging light of the illuin and the ormal?please help me!

[Sister Golden Hair]

I'm not real sure, but Aman lay to the West, then the great sea, then Middle-earth. There is something beyond the east of Middle-earth I presume, but is not Middle-earth. Another contenant. Not sure.

[Ñólendil]

I'm not sure why the Elves called it Endorë 'Middle-earth', but I sort of know why Tolkien used the word. It's an English translation of a word that appears in many tongues and in different mythologies. The Norsmen's version was Midgard (or Mithgarth), 'Middle-earth', a name for the world of mortal Men (there were Nine Worlds in Norse Mythology), called so because it was conceived of as being between the northern ice and southern fires. Lots of people used it as a name for our world, and they had different reasons for it. I know it appears in the Middle English poem of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight.

I think perhaps in Tolkien's mythology it's Middle-earth because it's set 'amid the Encircling Seas', though what exactly the Encircling Seas are still beats me.

[Finrod Felagund]

Enormous? Yes!
Unreadable? Definitely not!

[Nibs]

Soooo many names... kind of tough the first time, but you get used to it. Well, I did, anyways.

[Finrod Felagund]

Whoa! Finrod Felagund was the one who helped Beren try to get past the isle of the werewolves. He then sacrificed himself to save Beren. How dare you callhim treacherousd!?!?!?!?!?!?!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Nibs]

Nolendil said that's how he remembered it... that's wrong, of course, and we'll forgive him. Finrod was quite a noble fellow indeed. I liked it when he crept into the camp of the men who first went over the mountains and he made music on one of their harps and sang. Quite stirring. Quite.

[Finrod Felagund]

I wrote an essay n Fnatasy and when talking about Tolkien I said that The LoTR was the epitomy of modern fantasy but the Silmarillion, published posthumously, took Tolkien work to Mythological proportions.

[Elvet]

I think the Silmarillion is a must read for anyone who enjoys the LotR. There was so much info in it that after the first go round I picked it up and started again. In LotR , I always wondered about the Grey Havens and where they went and why. The Silmarillion explains this and so much more ( ie: why some elves can choose mortality). The first time I read it like a story, now I'm making notes and cross-referencing maps etc. I'm looking forward to rereading the Hobbit and LotR in light of what I learned from the Sil.

[Khadrane]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES! (In my opinion, anyway.) I really like it. It was a bit difficult to keep the names in order, and (dare I say it?) a bit dull in one certain chapter, but it is an amazing work of literature. I loved it.