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Tessar
11-08-2001, 10:35 AM
Ok, I have the Silmarillion by the throat AND IM NOT GOING TO LET GO!!!!!!!!!!

I WILL read it this time!!!! I WILL!

just wanted to let you know ;)
Wayfarer
11-08-2001, 02:50 PM
Go four dimensional square thingy guy!
Captain Stern
11-08-2001, 02:55 PM
I can't understand the problem people have with The Silmarillion. The problem I had was trying to figure out what 'ere' meant :)

I actualy started reading The Silmarillion because I found the long descriptive writing of The Lord of the Rings heavy going.
Tessar
11-10-2001, 12:54 AM
ok I'm still going errrrrrrrrrrrr.... simi-strong!!!!!!!

I just got to the part where the (noldar wasent it?) attacked the other guys for the ships.

I think.
Sister Golden Hair
11-10-2001, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Tesseract12
ok I'm still going errrrrrrrrrrrr.... simi-strong!!!!!!!

I just got to the part where the (noldar wasent it?) attacked the other guys for the ships.

I think. Yes. The Noldor attacked the Teleri for their ships. Pay attention here. For not all of he Noldor are responsible.
Ñólendil
11-10-2001, 07:23 PM
Right. Especially not Finrod :p
Sister Golden Hair
11-10-2001, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by Inoldonil
Right. Especially not Finrod :p That's a fact, Mr. funny guy. :p to you too. :)
Kirinki54
11-12-2001, 04:44 AM
So how come the Ban was not selective? Is that not unfair?The 'good' side of the Noldor had to endure enormous hardships anyway because of the 'bad' side. Just think of the Helcaraxe.
Did the Valar take that into acount?
Tessar
11-12-2001, 10:40 AM
Well look at it this way.

We all have to suffer now because of Adam and eve.

Is that not unfair?

and no I'm not trying to start a religion conversation! I don like those, I'm just trying to answer you.
Sister Golden Hair
11-12-2001, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by Kirinki54
So how come the Ban was not selective? Is that not unfair?The 'good' side of the Noldor had to endure enormous hardships anyway because of the 'bad' side. Just think of the Helcaraxe.
Did the Valar take that into acount? It kind of was selective. Feanor and his sons were more doomed then any other of the Noldor I think And that was the Doom of Mandos It was laid on all of the Exiles for the Kinslaying, but Feanor and company for his sworn oath. The ban actually had nothing to do with the Kinslaying did it? The ban came from the Noldor defying the Valar and leaving Valinor when they were told not to.
Kirinki54
11-12-2001, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
The ban came from the Noldor defying the Valar and leaving Valinor when they were told not to.

Right! I guess that´s it.
ArwenEvenstar
11-12-2001, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
It kind of was selective. Feanor and his sons were more doomed then any other of the Noldor I think And that was the Doom of Mandos It was laid on all of the Exiles for the Kinslaying, but Feanor and company for his sworn oath. The ban actually had nothing to do with the Kinslaying did it? The ban came from the Noldor defying the Valar and leaving Valinor when they were told not to.

I can't remember did all of Feanor's sons take the oath??
Ñólendil
11-12-2001, 06:24 PM
Yep.
Finglas
11-12-2001, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by ArwenEvenstar


I can't remember did all of Feanor's sons take the oath??
yup
Finglas
11-12-2001, 06:26 PM
dang! beat me to it
Kirinki54
11-13-2001, 05:41 AM
And Feanor conjured up the Mother of Oaths!!! It´s really something...
:D