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Tessar
11-02-2001, 11:21 AM
Well, you know what I mean (I dont think that it will be bad or anything)

But I think that its fun to just be able to see little bits and peaces.
You know. The excitement builds.

Oh well. (Plays the Enya music again) (And again) (And again) (....)

Comic Book Guy
11-02-2001, 03:53 PM
Do you mean something like not looking at the Lord of the Rings the same way anymore? I've often thought about this, and at one point I even decided that I wasn't going to see the movies, after seeing the latest trailer I made myself to be the most excited person I know about the movies.

I'll probally be the first person in the entire town to buy the tickets, and first person in the queues for the fellowship of the ring and first person to see it again for a second time. I've convinced a lot of people this will be fantasic, better than Potter, which in the UK is a hard thing to do.

It will visualy change my look the lord of the rings, and the way I think about it too, but I believe it will mostly be for the best

Tessar
11-02-2001, 09:36 PM
Lol,
No that is not what I mean.

I dont know how to really express it...

I guess I'm worried that we wont have anything to talk about or that people will leave after that see the movie.
Silly I know, but I just guess that i don't want things to change.

IronParrot
11-03-2001, 02:36 AM
Well a lot of surprises still await us for TT and ROTK, so you must be thinking really long-term...

samwise of the shire
11-03-2001, 07:56 PM
What makes me sad is that alot of people might find it stupid to watch a movie where the main charecters are either elves or cant throw a fireball like Harry Potter, they would'nt appreciate the beauty of Tolkien if they read it. From an article on my wall on LOTR PJ left alot of the original stuff in the movie, that means there might be alot of the original beauty left in the movie and if people dont want to see it because of the elves then they'll miss out on the beauty in the books, all because of a misconception of Elves. Hey Comic can you tell me which movie the latest Trailer is on? Like I say alot my stupid computer wont download hardly anything sound related so I need some guidence on which Movie I'm gonna make my family watch next. ;)

Comic Book Guy
11-04-2001, 11:50 AM
I don't know what Video the latest trailer is on, it sounds like you may need to update your version of quicktime if you can only hear the sound.

Hapira_Brandybuck
11-04-2001, 06:55 PM
I'm looking forward to the movies and as I was reading the books (for the second time) I found myself wondering how some of the scenes would be done specifically Weathertop, the attack on the bridge to Rivendell when Frodo passes out and Moria

Renille
11-04-2001, 11:51 PM
I just really hope they won't mutilate the plot. That so often happens with books turned into TV shows or movies. The books are never quite the same to you again. I can understand them cutting, that's necessary. But I really hate when they take away too many key elements and add fluff or romance in their place. I'm looking forward to the movies, but I'm kind of dreading them as well.

easterlinge
11-05-2001, 04:33 AM
Well, Renille, I'm afraid you'll be disappointed. I have it from a reliable source in the Entmoot (OK, it's Darth Tater) that Saruman falls on a spiked wheel and dies that way..... :cool:

Miriel Stormrider
11-06-2001, 03:53 PM
Easterlinge, I hope that either you or Tater are joking. That's going to have to be one incredible re-write to equal the symbolism and emotion of the original scene.

Tessar
11-07-2001, 11:23 AM
just so long as they dont put the toad in it.

:the toad jumps up high in to the air and comes down on bormear:

WHAM!!!!!

:the director yells: "HEY! DOOFUS! YOUR ON THE WRONG MOVIE!!!!!!!!

:toad: " Oh whoops, sorry about that big guy"

:boromear: "After someone peels me off the floor you sure are gona be sorry!"

samwise of the shire
11-08-2001, 05:59 PM
Funny Tess. Actually you dont have to worry about it, PJ had to modefiy the original script ALOT and they kept on going back to the books for the script and all that so I think it wont be TOO far off the books( I read that in Readers Digest, the LOTR article did'nt take as long as I expected it to), and if we fans like it then it'll be all down hill from there.

Quazar
11-09-2001, 04:56 PM
I feel that the movies are either going to be 1) bigger than Star Wars will ever aspire to be, or 2) the biggest failure since the dot com crash.
Personaly I hope they don't muck it up and it comes reasonably clost to the movie I have had in my head since I first read the trilogy back in the late 70's.

Varda
11-09-2001, 11:34 PM
well regardless of whether they are actually good or not, the makers already have a lot of fans (us) and they will drag their friends and families along... so they already have a guaranteed clientele (sp?)... even if people go just to poke holes in it because of differences b/w book and movie.. even if it's just to check that they didnt butcher it.. it has enough of a following that i think it cannot be a total failure... and if it IS good (and it sounds like it will be) then it will be a big success

fireworks19
11-10-2001, 12:42 AM
If anything, they will at least be better than those HORRIBLE animated things from years and years ago...I'm sorry, but those were awful...and, horror of horrors, it left out Arwen entirely!

I think I know what Tesseract means...kinda like we're all excited now, but what happens when its all over and we've seen them all...Nothing to be excited about anymore!

I really hope they keep with the book as much as you guys say they are...I'll be really upset if they change ANYTHING too drastically!

anduin
11-10-2001, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by fireworks19
...kinda like we're all excited now, but what happens when its all over and we've seen them all...


I am going on vacation. ;)

Quazar
11-10-2001, 04:49 PM
I will agree that the cartoon LOTR wasn't the best storytelling I had ever seen, but at the time animating over real life actors was cutting edge technology, remember this was long before PC's and digital effects. If I remember correctly the producers ran out of money about the middle of 'The Two Towers' and had to crock up an ending.
At the time it was better than nothing, except the movie version in your head.

samwise of the shire
11-13-2001, 09:53 PM
I dont think it will be a disaster, and we have to consider that the computer graphics have been worked on for years(3 I think), and the CGs that ARE going to be in the movies are going to be subtle or are going to be not so subtle but few, and the actors are either unknown(so we have NO idea how they act)or they are well known and good. Peter Jackson is'nt in the dark when it comes to LOTR and if they really stink then we could laugh it off, but there is a great possiblity it'll be a blockbuster.

Wayfarer
11-13-2001, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by samwise of the shire
the CGs that ARE going to be in the movies are going to be subtle or are going to be not so subtle but few


Like MAGIC! Right?

samwise of the shire
11-14-2001, 06:39 PM
I guess I dunno I just read alot on it. Oh btw if any of you have'nt been able to see the first trailer check it out at RD.com. I think we might have to wait until December for it to come out but I think it'll be coming soon!

Agburanar
11-16-2001, 09:26 AM
I just saw the new, full-length trailer and it made going to see the Harry Potter movie worthwhile (only joking, it was a good film, if a little too long).

My friends refuse to go and see the film with me because I will comment on all the bits that were changed for dramatic or streamlining purposes. Oh well. I'll have to convince them I won't, how to lie effectively?

Wayfarer
11-16-2001, 04:28 PM
Poor sot.

I'm getting a whole group of friends to come see the lotr with me. My only problem is balancing out the freshmen with people who have actually _read_ LoTR.

It should be fun, just the same. Got to love empty theatres!

Bacchus
11-18-2001, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by Comic Book Guy
Do you mean something like not looking at the Lord of the Rings the same way anymore? I've often thought about this, and at one point I even decided that I wasn't going to see the movies, after seeing the latest trailer I made myself to be the most excited person I know about the movies.

I'll probally be the first person in the entire town to buy the tickets, and first person in the queues for the fellowship of the ring and first person to see it again for a second time. I've convinced a lot of people this will be fantasic, better than Potter, which in the UK is a hard thing to do.

It will visualy change my look the lord of the rings, and the way I think about it too, but I believe it will mostly be for the best

This is an interesting viewpoint. I took a Tolkien class in college and had similar trepidation. Will the scholarly analysis kill the magic of the story? I seriously considered avoiding the class for that reason. Happily, I decided to go for it. The class, far from destroying the magic through overanalyzing the bones in the soup, expanded my perspective on the motivations of the characters and the building of the world.

Similarly, I think that the movie will also expand my perspective. No matter what Jackson chooses to do, he cannot change the published works. His perspectives and interpretations, far from ruining or invalidating mine, will rather give additional depth to them.

Selwythe
11-19-2001, 06:32 AM
I think Tesseract is trying to say that now, the movie has only had a cult following in us but once it shows on the screen, there'll be an explosion of new fans. Some of these will be genuine people wanting to know more but most of them will be "Oooh, Elijah's co cute" (hey, he's not) or "Tolkien rules" without reading the books. LoTR will not be a secret pleasure but main-stream popcorn entertainment portrayed in the most stigmatizing way. Entmoot will not be an exchange of ideals but a flood of 'newbies' who care more for who plays Frodo instead of who is Frodo. Now, you can speak of Elves and Orcs and Frodos and Gandalfs etc. in a know-it-all way to others and boast about the works of Tolkien but after the movie comes out, the others will go "Frodo? Hah who cares?! Who doesn't know?". The 'secret pleasure' is gone. An example I give is Frankenstein. It misled by a couple of bad movies and modern culture to be a scary ghost story, when it is actually a thought-provoking essay on political and scientific issues. Why, almost every one I know think of Frankenstein as the monster, not the creator.

I drifted off.

I'm sure the movie will be a huge blockbuster. The trailer is evident. All my non-reader friends who caught the trailer in the cinema had their breath taken away. The acting and the CG have been flawless. This will be huge, as huge as Star Wars, though it might be affected with Harry Potter. Television shows in these parts wax lyrical about Harry Potter and totally neglect LoTR. I don't think anyone is expecting it.

And really, what is wrong with a small veer off the beaten track? Lurtz is a good character to up the ante of good vs evil and a climatic battle at the end of the movie. Saruman being killed by a spiked wheel...save your breath for 2003. I don't know how many times I have yawned at Shakespearan plays and movies, because they simply re-enact, word for word, what is in the original script. You need an interpretion, and Jackson's I'm happy with so far. Aragorn and Boromir and the men are exactly how I imagined them to be. Ditto for The Shire, Moria, and everything that has been revealed so far. Well, Elrond's a tad ugly, but his acting is good.

Is the cinematic trailer the same as the latest trailer on LoTR? I thought so but my friend said otherwise.

And yes, if the trailer only plays sound and shows only the loader screen, you need to update QuickTime. It happened to me when I used QuickTime 4 but the problem was immediately rectified when I upgraded to QuickTime 5.