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Wayfarer
10-16-2001, 05:03 PM
Does anyone else thing that the lack of usable vocabulary in some tolkien languages is highly irritating?

Black speech, for example. Every orcish name I've ever seem is either elvish :( or a variation on half a dozen 'real' black speech names.

Another language that I'm really dissapointed with is valarin. I unerstand that it's not used for anything but names [in the books] but it would still be incredibly cool.

Furthermore, languages such as avarin (which has six dialects of one known word each),adunic, and westron have some vocabulary but not nearly enouhg to be useful. I would thouroughly enjoy trying to translate the lotr into westron.

Does anyone else think that a somewhat concerted effort to standardize/add to the various tolkien languages would be a good thing?

Ñólendil
10-16-2001, 05:27 PM
Sure, I do. It's linguistic fan fiction, isn't it? Tolkien (whatever some purists like to ignore) wanted us to expand upon his Ean works, and since their foundation is language, linguistic expansion seems natural.

Wayfarer
10-16-2001, 06:18 PM
Huh. I think I'm going to start working on a black speech lexicon, using primitive elvish, sindarin, and quenya roots.

I would also like to try an avari dialect. Mebde incorporating some gaelic? ;)

Ñólendil
10-16-2001, 07:01 PM
I should have put a 'but it should be done respectfully by people who know what they're doing' rule into my post.