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Kyote Fields
08-22-2001, 01:42 PM
I thought I had read somewhere that trolls were created so stupid that they were never able to grasp speech. So I suppose the three trolls that Bilbo found in the woods were, comparitively, geniuses, cream of the crop trolls I suppose. What's up with that? And why do they speak with cockney accents?:confused:

Comic Book Guy
08-22-2001, 04:04 PM
I believe Sauron when he bred the different breeds of Trolls (Cave Trolls, Hill Trolls etc) and the olog-hai He made them more intelligent so they could learn the abillity of speech.

As for the cockney accent, perhaps tolkien wanted to make them look more dumb :D

Kyote Fields
08-22-2001, 04:12 PM
The rain in Spain.... ;)
'eh wouldn't ya think so 'enry 'iggins...

Yeah it does sound kind of dumb.

Ñólendil
08-22-2001, 08:25 PM
I believe this is covered in the Appendices. You'll look for the section that's divided up by Peoples, and their languages. One on Elves, and Dwarves and Men and such, and 'other Races'. You'll find Trolls in 'other Races'.

Finmandos12
08-22-2001, 08:33 PM
Those trolls were geniuses. Most trolls could not speak (the Olog-hai were taught the Black Speech)

Spock
08-23-2001, 01:50 PM
Well they weren't from London so they had to be from somewhere else.
That almost makes sense. :( :D

webwizard333
08-23-2001, 07:05 PM
I hated that play. I thought all trolls were capable of speech. And as for geniuses, they did set a trap for the dwarves.

ringbearer
08-23-2001, 10:13 PM
I thought the troll's cockney accent was hillarius..."Mutton today, mutton yesterday, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton agin tomorrer!" (quote from memory...so forgive mistakes)

webwizard333
08-24-2001, 07:14 PM
Yes, they sure liked their mutton and dwarves ;) .