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Michael Martinez
08-11-2001, 12:33 AM
Robert E. Howard fans should recognize the echo of a Kull story in the sentence, "By this sword, I rule." Howard liked to write about strong, brooding warriors. They might be men in the wild west of America, boxers in the ring, or naive barbarians thundering through the halls of civilizations so ancient even the citizens had forgotten their distant origins.

In some ways, Aragorn was a barbarian, at least from a Gondorian perspective. Although raised by Elrond in an Eldarin household, Aragorn was no city boy. And both his father and grandfather had been killed by creatures (Orcs, Trolls respectively) which most city-folk would flee from in abject terror.

Like Howard's warrior-kings, Conan and Kull, Aragorn was descended of an "Atlantean" people. Kull was, in fact, an Atlantean, forced into exile. He and Conan left their barbarian peoples and raised themselves up to be kings. Aragorn also left his homeland (Eriador) and raised himself up to be king (of both Gondor and Arnor).

But there the resemblance ends, or becomes only superficial. Howard celebrated the raw, primitive strength of the uncorrupted barbarian. Tolkien celebrated the sophisticated wisdom derived from the decline and fall of several civilizations. But both writers conveyed a sense of power through their characters which evokes a symmetry of passion.

That passion heats the conflict of praise and ridicule. The characters are treated with great respect by some writers, and deep irritation and annoyance by others. Conan has been compared to cardboard drivel. Aragorn has been compared to a noble horse.

Read the full article here:
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/tolkien/77122

Michael Martinez
08-11-2001, 12:35 AM
From Elven Loremaster to Sapling....

Fat middle
08-11-2001, 04:54 AM
that's solved.

anyway, by this sword, you rule! :)

Michael Martinez
08-11-2001, 09:58 AM
From Sapling to Hobbit in one night. Life just doesn't get any better than that! :)

adanedhel
08-11-2001, 02:31 PM
Great article as usual Michael. I've always admired your work.

Another difference I see (as you've alluded to) is that Conan and Kull both took crowns by force, while Aragorn saw that his claiming of the throne might be challenged, and as he said "..I deem the time unripe;..".

Conan or Kull would have taken the throne then and there, consequences be damned and any opposition would have been dealt with harshly. Agree?

Michael Martinez
08-11-2001, 02:37 PM
Pretty much.

Michael Martinez
08-11-2001, 02:41 PM
Hey, I'm an Elven Loremaster again! :)

Erewe
08-11-2001, 02:48 PM
I was just wondering, why can't you view the articles off-line? I rarely have time to read articles on-line, so I always open the page and then just pull it out later in the history. So why can't I do that off of suite101.com?

BTW, that column about "racism" in LOTR has really quieted down some of the "local" critics. :)

--Erewë

Michael Martinez
08-11-2001, 02:52 PM
I don't know what Suite101 has done to disable offline viewing. I assume, however, that since they pay all their contributing editors to write that content, they want to ensure that people stay on the Suite itself.

Just a guess.

Don't know why, as they seem to only promote their own products and services. But I have no control over that.

Snowdog
05-28-2002, 05:14 PM
Doh! I posted a thread and then I find this. Feel free to deletem my thread. :)

Wayfarer
05-28-2002, 05:57 PM
Isn't that one of your older articles, Micheal?

I swear I've read it before... months ago.

Khamûl
05-28-2002, 06:50 PM
By the date on the post, it looks like he wrote it back in August of 2001. That's about the time you got here, Wayfarer, and months before my time.