X-MEN!!!

[Obi Wan of the Fellowship]

Is anyone else here excited about this movie, which opens on Friday?? I know I am. Thus far all of the reviews have been excellent. I read x-men comics when I was younger. Did any of you?

[IronParrot]

If you'd bothered to check <a href=http://www.rottentomatoes.com>Rotten Tomatoes</a> you would have noticed that not all the reviews have been excellent.

I'm not in the least bit X-cited about this movie...

[Darth Tater]

I think the special effects will rock but as a whole it'll be a lousy movie with bad acting and a bad script and weak storyline.

[Obi Wan of the Fellowship]

Of the 17 reviews on that site, the VAST majority are positve, and the others are the first negatives I've read, so just lay off IronParrot. Heck, even AICN's reviews were all good, and they are the most critical group of whiners on the net. Anyway, I didn't ask who didn't want to see it and expects little, I was just wondering if there are any X-fans here at Entmoot!

[Film Hobbit]

X-Men is VERY good source material for a deep and epic movie. This movie will either be INCREDIBLE on all levels, or it will stink like a rotting corps.

Personally, what I have seen so far lends me to believe that it is good, VERY good. And Rotten Tomatoes hates everything, they just say the exact opposite of what other reviewers say... so don't listen to them... heck don't listen to anyone, judge for yourself.

[IronParrot]

Actually, Rotten Tomatoes doesn't say anything at all. They take other reviews from other sites and gauge the good-vs-bad review percentage.

Last week X-Men was in the dumps there... I guess I'll check again since more reviews are pouring in this week.

[Film Hobbit]

idunno, every time I have ever looked at anything from Rotten Tomatoes it always gives it a negative rating... maybe its just me.

[IronParrot]

Yeah, it probably is just you :p

[Darth Tater]

I saw the preview thingy on Fox tonight. This movie is gonna suck.

[IronParrot]

What was the preview like?

[bmilder]

It opens today. I want to see it. How bad can it be? I'm not a particularly big fan, having read maybe one or two of the comics and seeing the tv show on occasion, but I do like the X-men somewhat so I want to see it. Plus there are good actors in it.

[Obi Wan of the Fellowship]

Well, I dont know about you guys, but this movie is awesome!! I can't believe they got the X-Men so beautifully right! i've already seen it twice(last night at midnight, and this afternoon) and I'll see it a few more. Bring on the sequel!

[Film Hobbit]

It is INCREDIBLE! They got the X-Men right for the most part, excepting a couple of storyline liberties they took, and most of all the movie is BALANCED.

It surpasses both Superman and Batman for that reason. Its not all action, there is a lot of time spent on plot, with just the right amount of action scenes. Unlike the early Batman movies it isn't to dark, but its not goofy and soft like the early Superman movies, it still has a hard biting edge to the characters.

GOOD. GO see it, best movie of 2000 so far.

[IronParrot]

I've NEVER been enthusiastic about this film one bit, but I might give it a shot now because I'm getting some very good word-of-mouth about it.

[anduin]

Notice how the subject is slowing wearing down. Eventually curiosity will the get the best of him and he will have to give in. ;)

Just go see the movie! :p

[Jonce]

Lucky sods, it reaches the cinema in September here in Britain !! :( Just have to wait !!

As anyone heard the rumour that if the X-men film is a success they'll be releasing Spiderman,The Incredible Hulk and Fantastic Four movies ??

Jonce :cool:

[IronParrot]

Those are all projects that are under planning, but haven't been given the greenlight yet. It's predicted that they'll be approved because of X-Men's success.

[juntel]

I'm out of touch with the comics culture.
Are X-Men like the Fantastic Four that I read when I was young? (yes anduin, i did read when i was younger!)

They did a movie based on Mr.Magoo (with Leslie Nielson)... I'd expect any other cartoon to go big screen...

[bmilder]

I saw it this afternoon. It was good :) It was a little silly how none of the mutants seemed to die. Are any of them really dead? *slight spoilers*Mystique looked very dead to me after Wolverine sliced through her, and yet we see she has assumed the shape of the Senator at the end. The remark about the yellow spandex was cute. I was a little disappointed that Beast wasn't in it, but there's always a sequel. Oh, and the movie is structured so you know there's a sequel. And now that X-men did so well at the box office, the sequel should be definite. The movie ends an awful lot like a cliffhanger for a film that should be standalone. It also seemed very short to me. But overall I liked it, and I think this was probably the best movie of the year so far.

[bmilder]

Hey, check these out:
www.corona.bc.ca/films/de...-men2.html (http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/x-men2.html)
www.corona.bc.ca/films/de...-men3.html (http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/x-men3.html)

[captain Tarpols]

i saw the movie with ben . ditto on what he said :p

[Obi Wan of the Fellowship]

YAH! When I started this thread, i was about the only one positive about, but now everyone here who has seen it likes it! You have seen the light! This movie kicks!

[thrawn96]

Wow, great movie. Not the best of the year, (gladiator was still better) but a great movie. The action was thrilling, but I thought there would be more X-men. Toad was a pretty cool character. I also liked storm and mystique. I cant wait for the sequal.

[Darth Tater]

Before I give my review you have to promise not to throw stones.

Ok, Patrick Stewart was Great. Sir Ian Mckellen was Brilliant. The cinematography was beautifull. The movie sucked. The rest of the acting was some of the worst I've seen in a long time, the script was simpy AWEFULL!!! (What happens to a toad when it gets hit by lightning? Same thing that happens to everyone else.) There was an extreme lack of logic in almost everything (though I'm glad Rogue's hair was right at the end since Wolverine heals her hair would have gone back to normal), and the special effects were awefull! (Statue of liberty was just plain flat)
However, it's all worth it for the chess scene at the end. I can't wait for Gandalf vs. Saruman and Gandalf and Denethor.

[Film Hobbit]

Do you work from the Washington Post? You sound like the idiot reviewer from there. Its a superhero movie... its called "fantasy" look into it.

And how anyone can say that Hugh Jackman's acting was bad... well that is just plain silly.

[Darth Tater]

His acting wasn't bad, it was shamefull!

I love fantasy, why else would I be here at Entmoot. But ther's good fantasy and there's bad fantasy. The X-Men comic books rock, the movie, if it weren't for that Chess scene it should never have been made.

[IronParrot]

I shall bear my judgment down upon this movie when I see it sometime this week.

Keep in mind that two months ago, my attitude this movie was totally pessimistic. After it came out, I began to expect that this will be at the very least a "good" film. I'm still expecting that. From what Tater is saying, it's turning out to be what I originally expected... however, I have heard excellent word-of-mouth from some other people just as pessimistic about the film as I was before the film was released.

We shall see.

[Film Hobbit]

Hey Parrot, when I went to see it I went expecting **** myself. Everything I'd heard about the production and the casting had me convinced that I'd be lucky to get out of the theatre without experiencing extreme pain.....

BUT ITS INCREDIBLE! Tater is in about a 2% part of the population that didn't like the movie. Especially good was Jackman's portrayal of Wolverine... he had it PERFECT. No one could possibly have done it better.

This is NOT a perfect movie, there are places it could have been better, Storm has a couple of really cheesy lines, but overall this thing is really good.

[Grand Admiral Reese]

I saw it yesterday, and thoght it was pretty good. Not a great movie in any sense of the word, but entertaining, and well worth the money I paid to get in.

[IronParrot]

I finally gave in and saw it too... here's my review, from <a href=http://pub4.ezboard.com/bnicktheshadow>my messageboard</a>...


DISCLAIMER

I am not an "X-Fan". I am not going to make a single note of how faithful the adaptation of the comics is, not one bit. I don't care if Wolverine says "Bub", I don't care if Beast wasn't in it, I don't care. (Although the "yellow spandex" line was pretty funny.)

Furthermore, I made the conscious decision of going into this movie completely blocking out all my knowledge of any biological or physical sciences whatsoever, and reminded myself that this is first and foremost a fantasy film and that the ludicrous scientific implausibilities and misunderstandings hold no weight either for or against this movie.

Now let's get started...

JUST TELL ME IF IT WAS GOOD OR BAD

Marginally above average.

PROS

The look of the film was definitely, to put it, "cool". The usage of deep bluish-grey colors throughout the film with everything from sets to costumes gave the entire movie a very surrealist feeling. With comic book films, it seems like there's basically two ways to go - the dark, dank feel of the Tim Burton Batman and Batman Returns, or the bright, true-to-the-comic-book coloration of Superman and Dick Tracy. It seems that this film chose the former path, and it was certainly the right way to go because it was consistent with the more serious direction the film was heading in.

The effects work was easy to spot, but brilliant nonetheless. While it stuck out as something you'd point to and say, "that's FX work", that was certainly not a disadvantage in this film at all. The visuals were very appropriate for the film, as well as technically superb.

The cast blended into their roles very well - something that is absolutely necessary in a "superhero" film, because they need to escape their real-life personae and become the character. While this was achieved mostly because of costumes and effects rather than acting, it worked and it worked well. The exception is Patrick Stewart as Professor X, but that's not a flaw in this film - it's actually Star Trek's "fault" for making audiences immediately think of Captain Picard whenever they see Patrick Stewart on screen. I'd like to make a special note of Wolverine (Hugh Jackman) and Cyclops (James Marsden). With these two, effects, costumes and acting were successfully combined to make the character memorable without actually going into too much depth beyond what the audience sees.

The fight scenes, although certainly lacking in length, were exciting, well-shot and well-edited. Seeing that this was a fantasy action movie, it seems that both the "fantasy" and "action" parts were well done. The fights were almost all just FX and not a whole lot of raw stunts or skill, but again, this was a superhero film so I did not hold that against the movie.

Also, might I make a note of a particularly special "unfolding plank" where Magneto pieces together a bridge as he is walking on it... you'll know it when you see it. I want one. That was just too cool.

CONS

This movie tries to crunch way too many characters into a short space of time. The characters were memorable, sure, but for the most part that was because of their costumes and abilities, not because they were well-developed. Wolverine's background in particular was too much of a tease, and it seemed like they stuck it in there just so they could expand on it in a sequel. Really, the only exception to this at all is Magneto (Ian McKellen), who was explained somewhat adequately by the opening scene of the film which depicts an episode out of his childhood - and even that did not relate well enough to the mutant-human rift that he puts so much emphasis on. Professor X was developed to an extent, but that was from what we saw of him in the present, without any motivic explanation from the past.

The film is too short. This is basically a one-mission plot which largely involves introducing characters - it seems that this film was made demanding a sequel. Someone said that this would be excellent as a pilot episode for a television series - and they're absolutely right about that. I thought that exact thing coming out of the theatre. But let's face it - even pilot episodes of television series are slightly longer than the 104 minutes X-Men offers, even barring commercials.

The villains, Magneto aside, were incredibly weak. They were stuck in there purely as henchmen, and had no substance whatsoever. Sabretooth (Tyler Mane) in particular was terrible, because he didn't have a cool enough costume or abilities to act as a temporary placeholder for character development as his comrades Mystique (Rebecca Romijn-Stamos) and Toad (Darth Maul - er, Ray Park) did. Speaking of Toad... while the homage to The Phantom Menace was a well-placed reference, Ray Park was generally wasted. They could have easily used someone else in his place. Because almost all his fighting involved his FX-created tongue and jumping around a lot, it was kind of like Jet Li in Romeo Must Die - his fighting skills, while shown off to an extent, were overly FX-aided and we didn't get to see him really shine.

Two other issues with characters. First of all, Halle Berry as Storm was just terrible - poorly written, and the acting didn't help one bit. Secondly, Senator Kelly (Bruce Davison) was a character that was so heavily emphasized in the film's TV commercials and the Mutant Watch promotional website that if you looked at the film as if it stood alone, Kelly is just stuck in there. Because of this, the film doesn't hold up as well without the Senator Kelly commercials - the marketing is actually a part of the movie. Fortunately, I have received word that all the Mutant Watch material will be included with the release of this film - good move, because if people in the future watch this movie by itself on video without the aid of the commercials, Kelly will look incredibly weak to them.

Another small issue: the editing in the beginning, from the end of Magneto's introduction up until Wolverine's introduction, was simply choppy and largely incoherent.

The script, while not intrusively bad, was certainly not something great. All the even remotely quotable lines are rather average in nature, and unfortunately, this suffers from one of the afflictions Titanic did - the most memorable line in the movie, the line that will be associated with this film from here on in, was just ****. While Titanic had "I'm the king of the world!" and "I think I'm flying!" X-Men has the overly silly "What happens to a Toad when it's struck by lightning? The same thing that happens to everything else." I mean, what the hell is up with that?

Possibly the biggest issue with X-Men is that while the art design and cinematography implies that the film is meant to be serious, rather than a movie that intentionally tries to be an escapist comic book like the wonderful Warren Beatty Dick Tracy or the entertaining Batman Forever, there are some things that obviously detract from that. This film cannot decide when it wants to be serious and when it wants to be comical. Sometimes you get gadgets and technology (particular Magneto's device that is the core of the film's one-mission plot) and cheesy one-liners that would be great in a "comic book" movie that wants to be a comic book; and that makes the tone of the film rather inconsistent. Again, this is not even taking into account scientific implausibilities, because I promised to ignore those at the very beginning of this review.

Also, what's the deal with the United Nations? Why is it always the United Nations and some big conference with all the delegates that gets picked on? It's been done in the 1966 Batman, and this film doesn't improve upon the concept one bit.

And the last note: the musical score by Michael Kamen, who wrote a brilliant score for Brazil, but has never done anything else useful since. I'd heard some horror stories about how distractingly terrible the score was. Well, while it wasn't as terrible as the score to Mission to Mars, which still makes me wonder what aliens from outer space abducted Ennio Morricone and replaced him with a tone-deaf impostor, it certainly took away from the film. If they are going to turn this into a franchise, and it appears that's the direction they're heading in, with sequels already in the works, they need to establish a clear " X-Men theme". Nope, no theme here. I'd say the score is about on the level as The Matrix - however, The Matrix had a large repertoire of appropriate selections from existing metal bands to compensate for the poor orchestration. X-Men does not.

OVERALL

I expected this film to be terrible. It exceeded my expectations by far, but is overall just slightly above average. There were simply too many flaws that took away from the movie for this to be a masterpiece by any means, and they weren't flaws that were disguised by the rest of the film at first viewing as was the case with The Phantom Menace, for example. Hopefully Bryan Singer will use his success with this film to make successive sequels build upon this foundation - because that's all this film really is, is a foundation. It is not really a complete movie in itself.

[Soul of the Nazghul]

I just liked that blue babe if ya know what I mean *wink wink nudge nudge*

[Gilthalion]

I expected a very bad movie adaptation and saw a completely adequate one!

I was pleased overall. This was a comic book movie and they did rather well with it.

The characterizations were true to the comic book. I couldn't have asked for much more, except more length and more development.

But then, this is intended (obviously) to be a series.

My favorite comic book was THE FANTASTIC FOUR and I eagerly anticipate new Marvel Comics movies!

Most importantly, I now know that Gandalf is in good hands!

[Estel13]

Well, I just saw X-MEN for the 1st time and I thought that it ROCKED!!! The acting was great, the script superb, and the special effects were good, though I've seen better in THAT particular realm. My fave was Wolverine. The best scene of his was when he pulled in the 2 outer blades and held up the middle one to Cyclops. I loved that scene!!! If some people *looks pointedly at Darth Tater* didn't like the movie, that's their problem. Film Hobbit, glad we agree on Wolverine!
:D

[Bombadillo]

X-Men!!! Dittle diddte diw dw dw, ditle diddte dew DW DW, DIW DIW DEW! < That's the theme song.

I tend to hate movies based on books don't I? But I gotta admit, the actors didn't do a bad job on this. I loved it in the beginning when Sabertooth whacks the trailer with a tree and Wolverine goes flying half a block and just gets up like "dammit!" with half his face missing and then it grows back and... and...

I'm an X-Men freak.

[gimli7410]

i cant wait for x-men 2.night crawler is gonna be in it so i am looking forward to that

[Varda Oiolosseo]

I saw the second one advertised the other day in the cinema and i was like wow i gotta see that!
But i hadn't seen the first one so i borrowed it off my mate yesterday and Oh My Gosh it's fantastic!! I don't understand why i hadn't seen it before!!!!

I am sooooooooooooooo looking forward to the second one!

I like Storm i think she'a really cool! well they all are but she's my favourite.

[Huan]

As a comic book nut, I didn't love the movie first time I saw it coz of my own heightened expectations, but I saw the 1.5 DVD last night and realized I really do dig the movie. The second one looks truly cool, particularly since Nightcrawler and Kitty Pryde are my favorite X-Men, and it looks like both of them will show up in the movie. And I hear that seeds will be planted in this one so that the third movie can be the Dark Phoenix story. yay! Famke Janssen as Phoenix. yummmm. Yes, very sexist of me.

[Eowyn, Lady of Rohan]

My favorite X-man is Pheonix and Rouge. What's yours?

[Aralyn]

hmm I'm gonna go see it but the first one will always be the best by far. did you know it's gonna be kind of a trilogy. They're gonna do one more after this.

My faves are Wolverine and Rogue

[Bombadillo]

I like Beast and Bishop the best. Too bad Beast will probably never be in the movies. He'd have a really expensive costume job.

But I saw the commercials too, and I want to see it. I don't know how they're gonna pull off a good movie because it was already revealed that Senator Kelly is Mistique, but I trust there's something good.

[Jonathan]

I was upset because Gambit wasn't in the first film. Will he be in the second or third?

[Aralyn]

He's making a cameo( a brief scene)
At least that was the word last time I checked
the movienews site

[Estel13]

Originally posted by Bombadillo
X-Men!!! Dittle diddte diw dw dw, ditle diddte dew DW DW, DIW DIW DEW! < That's the theme song.

I tend to hate movies based on books don't I? But I gotta admit, the actors didn't do a bad job on this. I loved it in the beginning when Sabertooth whacks the trailer with a tree and Wolverine goes flying half a block and just gets up like "dammit!" with half his face missing and then it grows back and... and...

I'm an X-Men freak.

We can tell.:rolleyes: ;) I LOVE that Wolverine scene! Wolverine ROX!!!:p :p :p ;) ;) ;)

[Firekitten2006]

I've always liked Storm. But Gene Gray (sorry, cant seem to spell right and that doesnt look right at all) comes in a close second.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

I saw it, and it was an all-right movie. A quite good performance from Ian McKellen (the only one I've seen aside from LOTR) made me like him. I didn't especially before, as he didn't really seem like Gandalf to me, but after this...I definitely do. :) He has one of those really cool voices, like James Mason, Gregory Peck, or Sean Connery. And he's a dern good actor, as well. Wolverine I didn't especially like, but Xavier was pretty cool, too.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

And I just loved Storm! I've always been a huge fan of raw lightning being thrown around, and that's her! :D

And of course, her hair...absolutely flawless, long, straight...and the loveliest shade of white I e'er seen in hair...we need a love emoticon...:o

[Aralyn]

hmm well okay Gwai . . .

My brother and I are X-men freaks as well (not as big as Tolkien but close)
I think he was Cyclops one year for Halloween and he has a ton of the toys. I didn't like Storm, She was too wierd for me

[Elven Archer]

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
I saw it, and it was an all-right movie. A quite good performance from Ian McKellen (the only one I've seen aside from LOTR) made me like him. I didn't especially before, as he didn't really seem like Gandalf to me, but after this...I definitely do. :) He has one of those really cool voices, like James Mason, Gregory Peck, or Sean Connery. And he's a dern good actor, as well. Wolverine I didn't especially like, but Xavier was pretty cool, too. you didn't recognize Xavier? the actor that played him is the same guy that played whats-his-face on Star Trek. i think his name is Patrick Stewart. I love Wolverine! and the actor that plays him. Wolverine, Rouge, Cyclops, and Xavier are my favorites. And of course, her hair...absolutely flawless, long, straight...and the loveliest shade of white I e'er seen in hair...We need a love emoticon... i disagree. i thought in the movie her hair looked too much like a wig. but that's just me.

i can't till the next one comes out!

[Gwaimir Windgem]

I did recognise him, though I haven't seen him in any Star Trek. But I do recognise him from commercials, now that you mention it. But I did see him in Conspiracy Theory, also starring Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts.

[IronParrot]

Whoa, old-skool thread alert!

That was the way I used to review movies. I refined my style significantly, though I haven't really been writing full reviews for months now.

That said, while I wasn't blown away by the first one (other than the fact that it was actually not bad, contrary to my expectations), I'll probably go see the second, perhaps after renting the first one again beforehand. In concurrence with my original thoughts on the first X-Men, I think a sequel free of all that huge expository burden would have a lot of room to stretch its legs and truly shine. Word on the street is that X2 is doing exactly that, and for that alone, I'm expecting it to surpass its predecessor.

[Bombadillo]

Yeah Patrick Stewart as Charles Xavier was a no-brainer for the casting crew. He's always looked exactly like him and plays the same type of character. So he did a good job. I like when he first takes Logan into Cerebro, and Logan goes "Wow. This room is very...... round."

[Agalayth]

I'm not sure if anyone else mentioned it in this topic yet, but they got the first movie all wrong. The first X-Men were Cyclops, Jean Grey, Beast, Iceman and Angel. Storm came in the second group of X-Men, along with Nightcrawler, Collosus, Wolverine, the Dazzler and someone else who I can't remember yet. Rogue didn't come till later and same with Gambit.

In X2, Rogue and Iceman have some sort of affair. To my knowledge, she's only had an affair with Gambit. I hope that Rogue goes through the thing with Miss Marvel and gains her powers like she does in the comics.

My favorite of the X-Men wasn't in the movie and isn't in the second movie either; Psylocke. If you don't know who she is, she's has psychic/telekinetic powers, is a mster of martial arts, and her most destinctive feature: her purple hair. If they did everything else out of order, I don't see why they couldn't have added her in. Plus, if she was a real person, she'd be HOTTTT!

I used to be an X-Men freak, yet have never read any of the comics. I just get my info from my friend who's read the comics and of course, the TV shows.

[Elven Archer]

Originally posted by Agalayth
I'm not sure if anyone else mentioned it in this topic yet, but they got the first movie all wrong. The first X-Men were Cyclops, Jean Grey, Beast, Iceman and Angel. Storm came in the second group of X-Men, along with Nightcrawler, Collosus, Wolverine, the Dazzler and someone else who I can't remember yet. Rogue didn't come till later and same with Gambit.
they also got some stuff wrong in Spiderman. and Daredevil i think. but if they made the movies just like the comic books it'd take too long to get to the really good stuff.

[Agalayth]

Yeah, in Spiderman, his girlfriend is not Mary Jane (she comes later). I forget her name, and I'll probably remember it just as I'm hitting the "submit reply" button. Also, she was supposed to die, but that wouldn't make for a great movie would it.

[Jonathan]

Originally posted by Agalayth
Yeah, in Spiderman, his girlfriend is not Mary Jane (she comes later). I forget her name, and I'll probably remember it just as I'm hitting the "submit reply" button. Also, she was supposed to die, but that wouldn't make for a great movie would it. Yes, Spider-man's girlfriend was Gwendolyne 'Gwen' Stacy, who was killed by the Green Goblin. Even though Mary Jane was a friend of Peter Parker/Spider-man at that time, they did not get together until several years later.
Another thing about Spider-man that they did not get right, was the way he got his powers. In the comics, he got them by being bitten by a radioactive spider. In the film, he was bitten by a genetically enhanced spider.

[Huan]

Spidey's web shooters are also mechanical, not physical in nature. But these are not the things the movies "didn't get right," these are things the movies changed. All film adaptations make changes with the source material.

[Agalayth]

Yeah that was one of the most obvious mistakes that I could remember.

[Bombadillo]

I can't stand that. If your gonna make an entire movie on something you'd better know what you're talking about. That's why I was a little upset with the X-Men movie, because it didn't happen (if you know what I mean). Wolverine and Rouge becoming X-Men were already stories, and the Senator doesn't die. And the X-Men Evolution TV show is a nightmare. The only thing they got right in that one is some of their names.

[Jonathan]

I saw some of the X-men Evolution episodes, and I thought they were quite good. Ok, the storyline is completely messed up when compared to the comics, but the characters were well made and well presented. I think that if they had to stick to the storylines of the comics, it would have been harder for them to make a good TV series.
I come to think about the Ultimate Spider-man comics. They did not follow the 'real' storyline either, but the Ultimate comics were still masterpieces.

[Agalayth]

Originally posted by Bombadillo
And the X-Men Evolution TV show is a nightmare. The only thing they got right in that one is some of their names.

Hahaha, and they created an X-man that from my knowledge isn't one of them. I think his name is like Spyke or something stupid like that. I still find it very bizarre how they don't even have Angel as one of the X-Men. He was one of them for a very long time, and he's probably one of my favorite, mainly because he's got a love "affair" with Psylocke. ;)

[Bombadillo]

Originally posted by Jonathan
I think that if they had to stick to the storylines of the comics, it would have been harder for them to make a good TV series. Respectively, I think that they would have been better off not trying to make the show at all then. If they wanted X-Men to go back on the air, they should have done just that. Put the original X-Men TV series back on the air. There would be no downside anyway. It would be new to litteler kids, it would have a bigger teen audience, cost less to make as they'd all be repeats.

[Jonathan]

Personally I found the original X-men series poor drawn. Any X-men related series would have been better than the original.
But it had been good if they had re-drawn the original or something and used the 'correct' storyline.

[azalea]

Didn't X2 open today? Has anyone seen it? I have yet to even see the first one (I'm always behind in seeing movies), but I will be watching it on dvd tomorrow night. I'll probably try to see X2 in the theater if I like the first one.

[Bombadillo]

Originally posted by Jonathan
Personally I found the original X-men series poor drawn. Any X-men related series would have been better than the original.
But it had been good if they had re-drawn the original or something and used the 'correct' storyline. That makes me really sad.
Originally posted by azalea
Didn't X2 open today? Has anyone seen it? I have yet to even see the first one (I'm always behind in seeing movies), but I will be watching it on dvd tomorrow night. I'll probably try to see X2 in the theater if I like the first one. It did come out today, but I didn't see it. I'm usually behind also. The first one was rather good, but I have low expectations of the second. Plus they'll be significantly less Sir Ian.

[IronParrot]

Hey guys,

If you've seen X2, feel free to start a new thread on it. This old X-Men thread was for the first movie anyway, and you don't need to clutter it up if you don't want to.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally posted by Bombadillo
That makes me really sad.
It did come out today, but I didn't see it. I'm usually behind also. The first one was rather good, but I have low expectations of the second. Plus they'll be significantly less Sir Ian.

I am quite certain that it did NOT come out today, as I saw it in the theater yesterday. :p I think it was actually Friday (the Second, two days ago) that it came out.

[gimli7410]

i want to see the second one so bad. does anyone know if it is good

[azalea]

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
I am quite certain that it did NOT come out today, as I saw it in the theater yesterday. :p I think it was actually Friday (the Second, two days ago) that it came out.

Ah, see how behind I am?
Well, how was it? If you liked it, maybe you could do what IP said and start a new thread on it with a review.:) I too am interested to see how it was, and how it compares to the 1st one.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

I liked it, but I'm too lazy to start a new thread. :p I will say, however, that my preferred X-Man (next to Storm ;)) will be a shock to no-one, I think. ;)

[Linaewen]

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
I liked it, but I'm too lazy to start a new thread. :p I will say, however, that my preferred X-Man (next to Storm ;)) will be a shock to no-one, I think. ;)

I like Storm too. Though, her hair looks a bit strange (I think it looks a bit detached). Every time she was on, I was listening to her speak carefully to hear what accent she had. To me, it sounded British at the start, then became more American. (What can I say, I'm fascinated by accents)

I also like Rogue and Wolverine. Very cool.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

I liked Rogue, but not really Wolverine. Not too much into the slice'n'dice types.

[Elfhelm]

You realize, of course, that that's a poor representation of the Rogue we readers have known for years. But Stan Lee is under consultation so I guess it's OK with this movie to twist characters around. hehehe

[Linaewen]

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
I liked Rogue, but not really Wolverine. Not too much into the slice'n'dice types.

Yeah, I don't so much like his 'power', more the person he is. Interesting IMO.

[Bombadillo]

Yeah he's a really unique character. He's so frank but at the same time mysterious. He's really cool.

[Indril Anarion]

I saw X2...it was awesome!!!! Way better than the first...

My fav character was Nightcrawler...he's sooo cool...plus, I love the sound he makes when he teleports...sooo cool!

Mystique is pretty neat too...

[azalea]

Yay! I finally go to see this on dvd last night! I loved it, and can't wait to see the second one. I felt a little at a disadvantage because by the time X-men (ths comic) came out (or at least came into the mainstream, I don't really remember when it came out), I was past the comic book phase, so I didn't know anything about the characters coming in except their names and what they looked like.
The movie did a good job "introducing" the non-reader to the characters, although I'm sure there are nuances and minor powers or characteristics that didn't make it in. They did a great job making most of the characters sympathetic, even the main bad guy (Magneto, which I had always thought was pronounced Mag-NET-oh, not Mag-NEET-oh:o ). And, yes, I thought Mystique was very cool.
I noticed that they refer to their powers as mutations, but I mean really, controlling the weather is a power, I mean, come on!:) I'd be interested to know if that's done throughout the comic to differentiate it from "superpowers" of other comic heroes. Also, I'd be interested to hear about how much of the moive comes from the "canon" of the comic and what if anything was different. I know my brother complained when it came out that Jean Grey's hair is supposed to be flame red, rather than the auburn she had in the film (I think he's partial to redheads;) ). (Off topic: Wasn't there a superheroine named Flame?)

[Catgirl]

Hey, I was wondering what exactly was the Phenix thing? What did Jean Grey turn into? Help!:confused:

[Elven Archer]

Originally posted by Catgirl
Hey, I was wondering what exactly was the Phenix thing? What did Jean Grey turn into? Help!:confused: you could probably find some stuff out at marvel.com under "bios" at the top. I couldn't tell you for sure cause i've never read the comic books. just the cartoon, the movie,and one of my friends is a big comics fan so he talks about 'em sometimes.