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Alcuin
03-14-2015, 12:16 AM
As many times as I have read The Hobbit, I have always been a little puzzled by an expression Gandalf uses right at the beginning.

“[F]or your old grandfather Took’s sake, and for the sake of poor Belladonna, I will give you what you asked for.”

“I beg your pardon, I haven’t asked for anything!”

“Yes, you have! Twice now. My pardon. I give it you. In fact I will go so far as to send you on this adventure. …”

What “twice”? I can see lots of times Bilbo slips and hints that he wants to go on an adventure, that his mother’s Tookishness is itching to get through. But I can’t find any two specific things that I can nail down.

How does the ’Moot count “twice”?

Valandil
03-14-2015, 12:43 AM
Because by then (the second having just happened - after Gandalf already said he would give it), Bilbo had twice said, "I beg your pardon." So - Gandalf grants his pardon, giving Bilbo what he asked for twice! :)

Alcuin
03-14-2015, 03:51 AM
Oh.

Well, I feel sheepish. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIj0qhYzqCU)

http://zarkanya.net/Tolkien/pix/DumbSheep.jpg

Thank you, Valandil!

Rían
03-15-2015, 02:59 AM
It took me a while to figure out what Gandalf meant, too, when I first read it!