lightsaber duel

[dmaul96]

in a lightsaber duel between obi 1 old, obi 1 young, dmaul, dvader, luke, and, and qui gonn who would win. i think dmaul would win. vader was a lot midi clorians and stuff, but his body is a machine. the only way he would win against dmaul is if he had a normal body.

[dmaul966]

i totally agree with you, jae. although i cant see sith against sith, or jedi against jedi, dmaul would probably win. dmaul could easily take on all their asses

[Darth Tater]

Well, it depends on if it's the young or old Vader

[MasterTater]

young or old dvader doesnt matter because when he was young he oculdnt use the force well. that is why he lost to obi wan.

[Darth Tater]

He is the chosen one!!! Of course he'd be great!!!

[bmilder]

Yeah, Vader would be good. Maul is pure muscle, but the Force is stronger than that, and Vader has more midichlorians.

[Ryan6233]

Nothing says Vader was the chosen one-anakin may have had a bunch of medi whatever, but he didn't (exactly) bring balance to the force, did he?(I think i'm gonna go to JC.N now)

[MasterTater]

when dvader was young he had a human body he had a lot of midichlorians but didnt know how to use the force well. in rotj he new how to use the force, but his body was a machine and could nt move fast. anyway if he a certain amount of midichlorians per cell, he would nt have a lot of midi chlorians in rotj, because he only had a head. dvader was the chosen one because he killed the emperer at the end. the emperer did nt really need dvader to wipe put the jedi.

[DarthNut]

Me don't know. Mesa thinks probly Vader.

[Darth Tater]

He was the chosen one! Only he could destroy the Emperor and bring balance to the Force, he just got a little side tracked along the way. Midichlorian counts are on a cell to cell basis. In each and every cell Anakin had over 20,000, and this number doesn't drop just because most of his body is gone.

[Ryan6233]

I don't know...I still think Luke was the chosen one. If you think about it, either Vader or Luke could have been the chosen one. Vader, though he did destroy the empire, created it. Luke, on the other hand, helped Vader to destroy the empire, and recreated the light Jedis. Special note: Jedis is not a word. Jedi is both the plural and singular form of the word.

[DarthNut]

George Lucas has said Anakin is the chosen one!

[bmilder]

That's 100% correct Nut. GL has said that Anakin is the chosen one so stop yer yapping Ryan ;).

[Ryan6233]

I won't believe it untill i hear it. NOT read it, hear it.

[bmilder]

Well, believe what you want. Why would GL speak to you anyway? :)

[Ryan6233]

GL would speak to me because i'm me :P And did you actually HEAR him say it? Or did someone just write that he said it?

[Darth Tater]

I was viewing my Television (I do hope you trust this medium) and distinctly saw GL's face and I saw his lips move as he uttered the words "Anakin is the Chosen One."

[Ryan6233]

Bah GL created a SW universe he could never control-how would he know?

[Darth Tater]

Now that's just stoopid.

[villen2000]

vader would win because he is a jedi. In ESB he uses the force to help him fight luke. Maul is just a sith warrior and vader understands and uses the force. He is also much stronger. He holds his lightsaber with only one hand and fights the quick young Luke easily.

[gdl96]

dmaul could easily win. just because he is a sith warroir doesnt mean hes not very strong in the force. dmaul was very strong in the force(not as strong as vader, but still strong). dmail would win becuase he spent several years training himself to fight and use his special light saber.

[Tai daishar]

Darth Maul used the Force in TPM. Don't you remeber when he was backing up, he cleared the floor with barely a wave.

[Darth Tater]

Whoever just said Darth Maul can't use the force should watch TPM.

[dmaul96]

That's stupid, stihs are more powerful than jedi. Anyway you cant fight 2 jedi at the same time and not know how to use the force. villen20000 obviously knows nothidng aboput star wars.

[Elanor]

But Darth Maul could only defeat QG when OW wasn't there, and OW defeated him. Vader versus Luke: In my opinion they are both the chosen one. (and who made that prophecy anyway? it could be wrong) I've heard that this situation comes from King Arthur mythology: Lancelot, the great hero, tries to get the Holy Grail, but he is impure and fails. His son Galahad becomes a greater knight, goes out, and gets the Grail, making L mad. L tries to kill G, but G beats him and saves his life. L decides to be good again and then dies. Sound familiar? Elanor, in whose opinion Obi-Wan would win, but actually they wouldn't fight at all.

[whoturnedoutthelightsburt]

Yoda would kick all their tired asses

[dmaul96]

Qui Gonn died not because he was worse than ob1, he died because he was tired as hell. Dmaul should of won the lightsaber match. The only reason ob1 won was because he had one lucky moment. He didn't beat him in the heat of battle. Damul's lightsaber wasn't even open. Dmaul is better than qui gonn and ob1. He should've won against ob1 and qui gonn.

[anduin]

...who were Dmaul and Damul? As for my answer, I would have to agree with whoturnedouthtelightsburt...Yoda.

[Gimli the Dwarf]

I think that the young Obi Wan would win. After all, He beat D.Maul once, he could probably win again. Besides, Light is better than Dark. The old Obi Wan would be gone in no time. Though in a Sith vs. Sith battle, D.Maul would cream D.Vader.

[Elaida]

I could be wrong, but bringing balance to the Force doesn't mean bring in more Jedi, neccessarily. There already plenty of light-side users, so to bring balance to the Force, I think there'd need to be more Dark Side users, so by becoming Vader, Anakin is helping to balance out the Force.

[easterlinge]

"There already plenty of light-side users, so to bring balance to the Force, I think there'd need to be more Dark Side users, so by becoming Vader, Anakin is helping to balance out the Force. "

Or by wiping out most of the Light-siders. That would do it and balance the Force too.

[webwizard333]

Personally, I think if it was angry (not clam, cool, boring,...) Luke would win. We saw what happened to DV when he got Luke mad in the 3d movie.... Remember, this is a lightsaber duel not a competition for who has more machinery of midichlorians....

[Lief Erikson]

I think that when a dark Jedi fights a light one, so far as I've seen, the good one has had to use anger to defeat his enemy. Such was the case with both Obi-Wan and Luke Skywalker. Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon-Jinn were both together incapable of beating Darth Maul, but then Obi-Wan alone was capable of it when he got mad.

This might not always be the case. For instance, I expect that Yoda could have turned Darth Maul to crud without using anger, but in general this might be so. Using anger can enhance the fighting ability of the warrior.

[easterlinge]

For the life of me, I cannot imagine Yoda duelling Vader (or anyone for that matter) with a lightsaber. Talk about size discrepancy!! :lol:

Maybe he uses a shorter lighsaber?

[Lief Erikson]

Oh no, I doubt very highly that he'll be using a lightsaber. I think he's far more likely to use force explosions or something like that. Sending out a destructive wave or the like.

[Mace McClain]

Yea, that how I see it as well.

[Lief Erikson]

Yoda dancing around with a miny lightsaber just doesn't really seem to fit. I'm sure that there are many creatures which are strong in the Force which don't have strong enough arms or legs for such things.

[Prince Faramir]

obi wan would beat all of the fighting jedi. i have reached this conclusion because he both trained darth vader, who murdered most of the jedi's, also he killed a very powerful darth maul. think about it when he goes mad with darth - he breaks his light saber in half. also when qui gonn and obi are fighting him, he is always, always defending himself going backwards!!! and the only way he kills one of them is fighting qui gonn on his own with a double bladed lightsaber.

on the other hand both the emperor and yoda could have kicked any of the fighting jedi's butts, being superior as beings.

the real question is who would have won yoda when about 500 years old, or the emperor in his prime?


hmmmmmmm

[webwizard333]

Yoda!!!

[Prince Faramir]

would have wupped him good. imagine him flying cross the room...be really entertaining

[Xivigg]

Yoda is no fighter

he would have die like every other Jedi and Jedi knight if he hadn't hid

[Prince Faramir]

in his prime he could have been a fighter i believe, otherwise why would he be a JEDI:confused:

[afro-elf]

FIRST young obi got lucky. he was beaten. dmaul fought both and wiped the floor with them. young obi got lucky


if anyone has the starwars rpg you will see why darth was so powerful. there are more force powers that were used in that movies that people are aware of unless you are into SW like we seem to be on Tolkien




i think the OLD obi one was the best. because Vader wiped out all the other jedi.

BUT in episode 4 vader did not beat OBI.
if you watch you will see that obi "dropped the body"

Vader did not touch him


If vader beat all the other jedi and obi handle him I think OLD obi would win


But Luke beat vader soo.......that make things difficult for me

I guess old obi would have to fight luke to really know

BUT I will say that Dmaul was the best fighting talent hands down

but others may have been stronger in the force

[afro-elf]

FIRST young obi got lucky. he was beaten. dmaul fought both and wiped the floor with them. young obi got lucky


if anyone has the starwars rpg you will see why darth was so powerful. there are more force powers that were used in that movies that people are aware of unless you are into SW like we seem to be on Tolkien




i think the OLD obi one was the best. because Vader wiped out all the other jedi.

BUT in episode 4 vader did not beat OBI.
if you watch you will see that obi "dropped the body"

Vader did not touch him


If vader beat all the other jedi and obi handle him I think OLD obi would win


But Luke beat vader soo.......that make things difficult for me

I guess old obi would have to fight luke to really know

BUT I will say that Dmaul was the best fighting talent hands down

but others may have been stronger in the force


we may have to wait to see exactly HOW the other jedi were killed

what if they just blasted the jedi temple from orbit

not force needed

[Renille]

But wouldn't that blow up the whole city of Coruscant? (I'm halfway positive that's spelled wrong...) Anyway, they couldn't blow up the city because it's existing at the end of Return of the Jedi.

But I'm feeling stupid tonight, so I'm most likely wrong.

[afro-elf]

I'm quite sure they could just target the temple.

they could use thermo detinators.

I thing as a kid just ASSUME the jedi were all killed in saber duels

but it could be possible they were killed in other ways

[Renille]

Targeting...oooohhhh...now I see!!! (Told you that was one of my not smart days... :rolleyes: )

[Hot_Wings]

You guys are b******* and moaning about a single lightsaber duel. In the wise words of Yoda: Wars do not make one great. Everybody except Darth Maul are powerful in the force. Darth Maul shows very little force potential in TPM. He most likely devoted his training to combat skills. Yoda would still kick all their butts.

Wingy:cool:

[afro-elf]

Maybe we should wait until the other movies before we decide.

I the books and RPG's there is A LOT info not in the movies.

Actually Mace ( Bad Mother !@#$%^) Windu is supposed to THE lightsaber master.

As for Hot_Wings I think that passive Jedi "wars not make one great" may have led to their downfall.

[Hot_Wings]

What are you talking about afro? When did the jedi have a downfall? Darth Vader systematically purged the jedi but they still survive. Jedi's are not passive. If they were, then they would not have been trained in the use in lightsabers. They are the protecters of the galaxy!:mad:

[afro-elf]

Downfall means to no longer to be what you once were. It does not eradicated.

Passive here does not mean here wimpy or afraid. Certain martial art philosophies that promote great restraint in use of force,( no pun intended) take your typical DO style verses your Jitsu styles which devoid of philosophy and about combat and WHOOP ASS. It does not mean that the DO's are bad just that one might wait TOO long to act.
Jedi DEFINATELY can kick ass.
It means not taking necessary steps to wipe out the dark siders. Maybe more Jedi should have gone to Naboo. Maybe they could have captured Maul and ripped the info from his mind about who Sidious was.

Even though we Vader was invovled with the downfall of the Jedi. We WILL have to wait and see exactly how it goes down in Episode 2 and 3.

[afro-elf]

it seems most of these are now obsolete with what everyone one says about yoda

how did the size difference between yoda and dooku play out in the movies

[afro-elf]

it seems most of these are now obsolete with everyone one says about yoda

how did the size difference between yoda and dooku play out in the movies

[azalea]

It's obvious Luke would win since he's the only one (of those choices) that wasn't killed in the end!;)

In answer to your question -- a lot of acrobatics and much control of the Force.

[Arathorn]

In the end, Anakin was the real hero. Luke just survived because of Vader. Luke just kept wincing in pain with his "Say it ain't so" line to dad.

[gdl96]

Damn this is old. For those who don't know, I was dmaul966 (among with many other usernames...don't ask...long story :p)

Anyway, I'll update this.

Who would win a fight of dvader v anakin (ep ii) v padawan obi1 (ep i) v obi1 (epii) v old obiwan v yoda v dooku v quigon v dmaul v luke v plo koon v mace windu v kit fisto v ki adi mundi v others from jedi army?

Am I leaving anyone out? :p

[Andúril]

What about Yoda vs Emperor??

[Wayfarer]

The melee of the century. I'd like seats to that. I'd bring a thermal detonator, which I would leave under my seat while I conveniently went to the bathroom.

After that, I would rule the universe.

[Andúril]

My lack of knowledge of the finer details may be evident, but I reckon GrandMaster Yoda would open his can of whoopass on mister Sidious. Or at least, that's what I'd like to believe.

Is Palpatine any good with lightsabres? Is Force-lightning his only party trick? Mr Vader picked him up and threw him down the shaft - ooooooh that was so difficult...

However, the scarier you look, the more frightened your opponent is. The Dark Lord of the Sith, make no mistakes, is damn ugly. He's nasty. At least he's got that going for him...

We already know that Yoda pretty much kicks ass with a lightsabre, has a handle on his Force-lightning, and is quite handy with his manipulation of objects through knowledge of the Force.

Does anybody have an opinion on the matter?