Elves in Modern times.

[Taril]

This is just a hypothetical question..

I know the Elves cannot come back, wouldn't come back.
BUT.. Lets say they did, lets say they sailed back to the world in present day 2007.. What would take place? What would they think of the Earth they find? Would they try to re-establish themselves with humans? Would they turn tail, and go back?

What say you, for I am very curious.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

They would turn back, most definitely.

[Ingwe]

I came back. :p I stayed because they invented Nintendo around the time I came here. Got hooked on those games that so many now label as "old school". I don't approve of most of what goes on but I think that mankind will find its way. And if it doesn't, um...

The world has changed a good bit and now the things you used to explore without seeing one building, and usually could journey for hundreds of leagues with not even a campfire in a distant forest, are now filled with industry and foul-smelling air (and windbag politicians who can't pronounce "nuclear" or claim that they invented the internet) in some parts.

I think the rest of the Elves might have mercy and beg the Valar to let some pass there and lift what some call the "Curse of Man" or "Curse of Mortality". But who knows, the future may work out to be almost like the Star Trek future (and if it does I fear for this world LoL).

But yep, Gwaimir Windgem is right, most of the other Elves would turn back in a heartbeat.

[Nautipus]

I came, I saw.....I got depressed and left. :D

[Ingwe]

I came, I saw.....I got depressed and left. :D

I try to act not too depressed, but that's just denial. :p I think I might go back to my home in Eldamar soon. If I was one of the Valar, I would probably grant humanity some sort of alternative to this. Not sure what, because mankind isn't designed to handle immortality as far as I know. It's sort of how SATA storage drives are gifted with longevity over regular ATA drives because the connections are more durable, or something. Somebody at a computer store told me that. I better stop now before I go on a technobabble rant. :D

[Nautipus]

I try to act not too depressed, but that's just denial. :p I think I might go back to my home in Eldamar soon. If I was one of the Valar, I would probably grant humanity some sort of alternative to this. Not sure what, because mankind isn't designed to handle immortality as far as I know. It's sort of how SATA storage drives are gifted with longevity over regular ATA drives because the connections are more durable, or something. Somebody at a computer store told me that. I better stop now before I go on a technobabble rant. :D


Denial is a beautiful thing... :D

You'd probably better go off on that rant because there's no other way that I could understand SATA and ATA without it... I'm more of a rant-oriented learner, which is why I'm doing so much better in college than in High school. ;) :D

I saw a little Indian proffessor here and he looked exactly like Einstein. I mean it! He could have been him, but he taught some kind of math... :D

[Ingwe]

Denial is a beautiful thing... :D

You'd probably better go off on that rant because there's no other way that I could understand SATA and ATA without it... I'm more of a rant-oriented learner, which is why I'm doing so much better in college than in High school. ;) :D

I saw a little Indian proffessor here and he looked exactly like Einstein. I mean it! He could have been him, but he taught some kind of math... :D

Einstein may have been Radagast. We never really did find out solidly what happened to him. LoL

So for years I used ATA hard drives (which were the older ones with the standard ATA connectors). In my 12 year computer-literate history (or longer) I've lost about 20 of them. I've had 5 SATA drives and 5 external usb portal hard drives - none of them have ever gone bad on me, aside from the random file errors that happen if you don't shut it down properly *cough Bill Gate's way of making you buy more stuff for your computer, Microsoft gets the side effect of getting more money off it cough*. The old ATA connectors were defective from the moment they were invented I think. The SATA drives and connectors never made a drive fail yet. I'm quite glad mankind got something right LoL. :D

[Nautipus]

hahaha :D

Every now and then mankind gets something right, like sushi. Here, have some.
*throws sushi to Ingwe*

:D

[Ingwe]

hahaha :D

Every now and then mankind gets something right, like sushi. Here, have some.
*throws sushi to Ingwe*

:D

LoL thanks. Sushi was one of those few things. When Amy and I go back to Valinor though, I'm taking the invention of duct tape back with us. LoL

There was also the moon missions. I * hope * they really did happen. Most evidence points to it happening at least once. The Elves went into space before and have achieved warp capability. We met up with Earendil and we had some drinks while Morgoth watched. Morgoth didn't look too happy at all. So we gave him some light beer. :rolleyes: :D The guy has but one weakness: he can't hold his liquor. LoL

[Nautipus]

LoL thanks. Sushi was one of those few things. When Amy and I go back to Valinor though, I'm taking the invention of duct tape back with us. LoL

There was also the moon missions. I * hope * they really did happen. Most evidence points to it happening at least once. The Elves went into space before and have achieved warp capability. We met up with Earendil and we had some drinks while Morgoth watched. Morgoth didn't look too happy at all. So we gave him some light beer. :rolleyes: :D The guy has but one weakness: he can't hold his liquor. LoL


I really dont know how to respond to that :D ;) ....so here's a random fact: Sushi was invented by the Chinese long before the Japanese incorporated it into their own culture, but now it is seen as less Chinese, and more Japanese. :D

[YayGollum]

If ever some nasssty elveses ever showed back up nowadays, they would show up on tiny boats, because didn't that Tolkien dude write that, after a while, all elves would be reduced to the size of fairies, claiming that all fairies in other stories just used to be elves? oh well. They'd show up, we'd easily catch them and perform all kinds of superly cool experiments on them and extract magic juice from them. It would be great.

[Nautipus]

Thats.....actually a litle morbid.....but oh well. Still funny :D

[Olmer]

Hum-um...We have had a discussion about that... :)
The possibility that they are still sharing the planet with us.
This is what I think.
I think that morally we did not get advanced far enough to be ready to meet the progenies of the Firstborn. Sadly, if any of Elves descendants were still dwelling in our time, than the fact of their origin from an immortal type of humanoids would be kept in a deep secrecy. :cool:
What the difference between Elves and Men?
Considering that the Elves and the Man have the same "faculties", can interbreed, producing healthy offsprings, indicate them as the one biological group with only one small difference - an immortality and a resilience to age wearing out.
And this little fact makes a HUGE difference!

"So, if they are the same type, then why they live forever, and I am not?
I want it too!!!"- that would be, naturally, the first thought of many people. :p

Thanks God, the Men of Middle-earth were not so advanced in genetic researches, otherwise the leftover elves would encouter a genocide in such proportions that even Hitler wouldn't dream about.

At present time the Men of the Earth have even a greater lust for immortality....
So, given an opportunity to find this tiny gene which makes such big difference between otherwise similar humans, moral and humane criterias wouldn't stop the scientists, the politicians and even the ordinary people.
The elves offsprings would be hunted worldwide, disected and studied in the name of humanitarianism. :eek:

[Nautipus]

I dont want to live forever!

Could you imagine how bored you'd get? I mean come ON!

[Rían]

I know there's some elves still here, because I found a gorgeous necklace that I'm sure came straight from Lorien, and another that I know is from Mirkwood :D

[Olmer]

The lost Nauglamir?
Can we look at it? :)

[Ingwe]

I know there's some elves still here, because I found a gorgeous necklace that I'm sure came straight from Lorien, and another that I know is from Mirkwood :D

That's great to hear! We will inform the Valar of the finding of these artifacts and they will be en-route to give those who found them immortality. But be quiet on that - it's supposed to be top-secret. :p

I dont want to live forever!

Could you imagine how bored you'd get? I mean come ON!

It is quite boring, especially in the New Land (American continent). In two years we're moving to somewhere out west, there's a small area where the Rocky Mountains form a circle and in between there's basically nobody. It's quite hidden (except for the fact that 40,000 satellites orbiting the earth can see it). We will name it New Gondolin or New Tirion. That's also classified above top-secret so shhhh, don't tell anyone. :D

In exchange for giving some people immortality, we'll just take that duct tape invention back with us. I told Manwë about it and he replied with, "eh, whatever." So it seems that it isn't against the rules anymore. Right now the Valar are concentrating their efforts on learning soccer. :p

[Nautipus]

I know there's some elves still here, because I found a gorgeous necklace that I'm sure came straight from Lorien, and another that I know is from Mirkwood :D


I found five dollars! See!
*shows everybody*

Could that be elvish?
:D

[Galagriel's_daughter]

it is kind of depressing but since im not the only on elven person left here its ok but i think mankind is in real trouble and theres nothing here i can do but sit and watch and laugh! :confused:

[The last sane person]

Aw hell, those ninnies couldn't stick it out even back then. They got some sort of fear of commitment, it seems. Course they'd turn tail and run crying back to Varda once they saw the state of affairs here!

Pfah, they wouldn't stay to help make it a better place, when they could, no way those snooty boogers would come and try to make something of it now.

[Galagriel's_daughter]

Aw hell, those ninnies couldn't stick it out even back then. They got some sort of fear of commitment, it seems. Course they'd turn tail and run crying back to Varda once they saw the state of affairs here!

Pfah, they wouldn't stay to help make it a better place, when they could, no way those snooty boogers would come and try to make something of it now.

i stayed thank u! :eek:

[Jon S.]

Thats.....actually a litle morbid.....but oh well. Still funny :D
The morbid the merrier! Nyuck nyuck! [apologies to Curley Howard]

[Curubethion]

I dont want to live forever!

Could you imagine how bored you'd get? I mean come ON!
Why do you suppose death is the Gift of Illuvatar?

[The last sane person]

Considering you are quite human GD, you had no choice. :D

[ecthelion]

We don't need elves to make this a better world. There is nothing stopping us from doing it ourselves. No Morgoth or Sauron nowadays...

[Blind Guardian]

Man, this concept of elves returning to earth in the modern age would make for one hell of a fanfic.

Picture this, in the year 2007 AD, the immortal lands are in crisis. The immortality of the elves, coupled with their continued desire to reproduce have caused the Blessed realm to become overpopulated. The sheer number of elves has grown to such a vast size that one cannot look venture anywhere and be alone. As a result, the once beautiful landscape has grown sad and for some, unbearable. The elves, having truly had enough, beg the Valar for the right to leave. The Valar angrily rufuse their request at first, but after they see that they can no longer keep the children of Iluvatar happy, they reluctantly accept. Thus a new straight road is constructed. This one leading from the eastern shore of Tol Erassea to modern day Whales.
At first, elven messengers are sent. The people of England are understandably befuddled by the strange looking, yet etherial people and their message of the comming of the elves. Afterall, to them elves are the stuff of myth and legend. Nonetheless, more show up. The eventually migrate beyond england and to the surrounding regions, struggling to adapt to their new home. In some places, they are welcomed with open arms, in some they are looked upon as monsters. The coming of the elves sparks international media attention as more of these "Immortal Immigrants" continue to show up.

I don't know. Just a little idea I came up with after reading this thread and an another older one about the overpopulation of Valinor.
By the way, did I mention this is my first post? Hello everyone :)

[Nautipus]

Welcome!!:)

[Belwen_of_nargothrond]

Great question!! I would have never left my home. The world around me depresses me sometimes and I wish I could go away to a distant land and escape it all. If the elves were real, I would probably try to find them or die trying.