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nokom
03-30-2007, 11:37 AM
Just wondering. Can orcs have their own minds or are they complete Sauron powered..... Eh... Dummies ;)?
me9996
03-30-2007, 12:09 PM
In the return of the king (At least in the books) Sam overhears a few orcs wishing for the old days when they could just go about as bandits...
So it is clear the while the orcs arn't mind controled they are still enslaved by fear of Souron.
Landroval
03-30-2007, 02:00 PM
In Myths Transformed Tolkien speculated that Orcs merely relayed old records of speech set in them by Melkor and that they had no fea - although in the letters Tolkien gives them more credit.
elven dragonrider
03-31-2007, 01:42 AM
In the return of the king (At least in the books) Sam overhears a few orcs wishing for the old days when they could just go about as bandits...
So it is clear the while the orcs arn't mind controled they are still enslaved by fear of Souron.
That is what I was going to say, but then I read that you already said it. It happens when they kill the spider, and Sam is wandering around, following them.
Don't drive through tornados. It isn't fun.
Landroval
03-31-2007, 02:31 AM
It happens when they kill the spider
What spider did they kill?:)
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