The Entmoot Database

[Sister Golden Hair]

As most of you know, we have been experiencing problems with the database for the last 3 days. Some are able to get to Entmoot and some aren't. It is still a mystery as to why, but for those of you who can get here, I wanted to let everyone know that I was able to contact Ben last night, and he is working on the problem. Hopefully this will be resolved and we will be back to normal soon. :)

[Rev. Justin Timberlake]

Mooters present seem to be using www.entmoot.com as the URL, instead of http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com .

[Grey_Wolf]

As most of you know, we have been experiencing problems with the database for the last 3 days. Some are able to get to Entmoot and some aren't. It is still a mystery as to why, but for those of you who can get here, I wanted to let everyone know that I was able to contact Ben last night, and he is working on the problem. Hopefully this will be resolved and we will be back to normal soon. :)

Very good, SGH. :)

[Lotesse]

Thank you, Sister Golden Hair, Ben, Earniel, Valandil and the rest of the staff for getting our Entmoot back on the horse. It would be so, so messed up if we lost our mootingplace forever! God, I was worried there for a couple days. I was seriously worried. Is there a way you can easily mass-e-mail the members, so that all of the mooters can be notified of the address change? A lot of members may not be able to figure out to put www.entmoot.com, I know I didn't. Grey Wolf & Butterbeer let me know about the change. Do you think that this is a thing you guys in administration can do, that is the mass e-mail notification?

[Sister Golden Hair]

Grey_Wolf and I have discussed creating a email group for just such occassions. If you still wish to do that GW, go ahead and set it up. Sorry I haven't gotten back in PM with you on that. I don't see a problem with it though. Sounds like it could be a helpful tool, since I have received a number of emails and IMs since this problem started. I'm sure Ben's Tolkientrail email will no doubt be overwhelmed.

[Grey_Wolf]

Grey_Wolf and I have discussed creating a email group for just such occassions. If you still wish to do that GW, go ahead and set it up. Sorry I haven't gotten back in PM with you on that. I don't see a problem with it though. Sounds like it could be a helpful tool, since I have received a number of emails and IMs since this problem started. I'm sure Ben's Tolkientrail email will no doubt be overwhelmed.

Perhaps G-mail, Yahoo or Hotmail will do as an agent for such an email group.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Perhaps G-mail or Hotmail will do as an agent for such an email group.Whatever you think best. It's up to you. You're in charge of the group mail. :)

[Grey_Wolf]

Whatever you think best. It's up to you. You're in charge of the group mail. :)

Ok Ill go and see which is best. And Hotmail appears to be the best choice. It has the group option.

[Grey_Wolf]

entmoot_1@hotmail.com is now the common group adress for Entmoot.

[hectorberlioz]

entmoot_1@hotmail.com is now the common group adress for Entmoot.
good idea. In fact, brilliant. way to go Grey Wolf!

[HOBBIT]

Yeah -Ben working on the problem means that it will be resolved in a few months tops - :D It is odd that http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/ is not working.

Just use entmoot.com - I've had no problems. entmoot.com has been around for at least 4-5 years - its nothing recent or new.

True, if you were not here when it was announced the couple times that it was announced then you wouldn't know about it. I suppose an announcement could be made on TT home page and the link could be changed to entmoot.com. But Ben would have to do that.

Entmoot.com as a way to reach the board was started 3/28/2001 (before this vbulletin even) - and since 2003 we've actually owned the domain. (reference thread http://entmoot.com/showthread.php?t=1067 )


And now you know :D :)

[Sister Golden Hair]

Well HOBBIT, Ben is having a problem remembering his password into TT. :D

[HOBBIT]

Well, we can send out mass emails to the members - I think that that was a question asked. Those who selected not to recieve admin emails wouldn't get them though. In the control pannel under "users" then "send email to users"

Since a lot of the members don't know about entmoot.com - it might be a good idea to send out a mass email.

[Mercutio]

I noticed this. I always used entmoot.tolkientrail.com , but when that error started coming up I tried www.entmoot.com and its been fine.

[Butterbeer]

surely you can email all the members- this must in fact be terribly easy provided you have the authority to do so.

Also it is very easy to add a sig or link to all of the email notifications sent out adding the entmoot.com link

...really isn't hard.

also a code redirect from the tolien trial URL to the to entmoot.com URL is very easy also

also - why not just add a simple BOLD line to the error message in tolkien trial giving the alternate URL????

whats all this about a centralised public email list?
I do not beleive anyone signed up to that when we joined?

Have you guys thought this through????

I would be very careful with it if i were you.

Best all, BB :)

[Grey_Wolf]

If you think it is so BAD then perhaps I should SHELVE the entire project.

It was just meant as a HELPFUL functÃ*on for people.

[HOBBIT]

BB - I just posted about an hour before your post that we can easily send out mass emails, etc. We will do so if we think it to be nescessary.

[Rían]

It was a good idea, GW, and very thoughtful of you, as long as you used only publically-available email addys. Even if you didn't, it was still thoughtful and kind of you to help out, which in my book is the important thing :)

I think that's a good idea that BB brought up, Hobbit - can you just add a link to the error msg page?

[Ben]

I got through to the tech support at my host, and they fixed it up. Should work for all now. Sorry about the inconvenience.

[Ben]

Also - this absolutely flooded my Tolkien Trail e-mail account! I signed in last night and had twenty thousand error messages in there, and they kept coming in at the rate of one every three seconds. :eek:

[Elanor's Angel]

It was'nt working for me, and now it is. I did read the mass e-mail and then it just worked... :)

[Nurvingiel]

Also - this absolutely flooded my Tolkien Trail e-mail account! I signed in last night and had twenty thousand error messages in there, and they kept coming in at the rate of one every three seconds. :eek:
Those were all in your inbox? :eek: That must have taken a while to delete. *offers ice-pack for your newly aqcuired carpal tunnel syndrome*
*reminds self to get off the computer now and then*

:D

Glad to see the Moot is back on its feet. :)

[Curubethion]

Same here...I was suffering withdrawal symptoms!! :eek: ;)
What happened??
(BTW...I think I'll change the "my favorites" link to "www.entmoot.com"...)

[Lotesse]

Hi, guys. I could swear I entered a few posts here yesterday, and I see no sign of them - or it, mybe it was just one post. :confused:

The site was inaccessible to me since about 5 or so yesterday evening, pacific time, and only just now - as in about five minutes ago - was I able to get through. When the site became unavailable to me last night, I was still even logged in, and was inable to even log myself out. :confused: Yet, I see that others did not have the same problem. Sister Golden Hair, BMilder, et alia, can you guys explain to us what happened? Will this keep happening?

And were posts deleted, for some unexplained reason, (no reason why they would be as they were entirely well within the rules, nothing wrong there)or did they vanish due to this ongoing ghost-in-the-vbulletin problem?

[HOBBIT]

I was unable to access entmoot all day until about an hour ago. No idea why this is happening. Talked to bmilder - he doesn't know either.

Seems to be ok now. Hopefully it won't happen again soon.

[Elanor's Angel]

*groans* I'm stateing the obvious here but.... It happened again!!!! :eek:
*Attempts to calm self down again*

[Ben]

For some reason, posts made at "entmoot.com" yesterday all vanished, and now board is all synched up again.

When you run into these troubles, please let me know (via email: bmilder at fas.harvard.edu) the extent of the problem and I'll relay that to the host.

[Lotesse]

O.K., then that makes more sense, that they were all the posts from that time frame. I hope it won't happen again. All of us diehard mooters love this forum so much, and it freaks us out when we get these scares.

[Elanor's Angel]

Uuummm.... If we open any even slightly moot related pages, how are we supposed to e-mail you? :confused:

[Curubethion]

For some reason, posts made at "entmoot.com" yesterday all vanished, and now board is all synched up again.

*Audibly whacks head on keyboard...aweg[pknawgoweaj :D *
I made a few posts after switching the address!
Phew...the concluding post of my RPG is still there!

[Elanor's Angel]

I still don't know......... :confused:

[Lotesse]

Uuummm.... If we open any even slightly moot related pages, how are we supposed to e-mail you? :confused:
You can e-mail Ben Milder at his email address, you don't have to be logged on to do that. Check his info right now;he has his email address there. Then, if something happens again, you - or any of us, can email him from our own email account, independent of Entmoot, and let him know what's going on, and that we need help, and stuff like that. :)

[Elanor's Angel]

oooooooh! That guy! Ok! Thank you! :D

[tolkienfan]

I wasn't able to get on here for 2 days! I was in a state of panic! :eek: I was trying www.entmoot.com and I was clicking on the links in my e-mails about my suscribed threads, but nothing worked! :( I tried search after search! :mad: I didn't know what to do! I hope it never happens again! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Rían]

Also - this absolutely flooded my Tolkien Trail e-mail account! I signed in last night and had twenty thousand error messages in there, and they kept coming in at the rate of one every three seconds. :eek:
20k?!?!

That's funny! Poor Ben!

[Rev. Justin Timberlake]

Also - this absolutely flooded my Tolkien Trail e-mail account! I signed in last night and had twenty thousand error messages in there, and they kept coming in at the rate of one every three seconds. :eek:Geez. And I thought my 1k/day was bad.

[Butterbeer]

edited - just read above! :p

best, BB :)

[littleadanel]

BB, it's not only you - many mooters' posts - and even PMs - disappeared. I don't think anybody actually deleted them, more likely it's a freak-result of the violent server problems we had recently.

Seems it got back to the stage it was sometime yesterday - for example, I changed my avvie, and then I wasn't able to come to the Moot for a while ("Oops! we can't open"-page popped up all the time) and by the time I got back, my avvie mysteriously changed back to the old one. That's why I think it's just a weird server-hiccup result, nothing more.

;)

[Butterbeer]

hiccup?

come on ...who's been giving the server the whiskey again? ;)

[Rev. Justin Timberlake]

Probably BoP.

[Butterbeer]

It was'nt working for me, and now it is. I did read the mass e-mail and then it just worked... :)


WHAT MASS EMAIL???

was one sent out?

why then were selective mooters not sent one??

is there some sort of first class, second class and scum class here or something? :eek: :eek:

[Grey_Wolf]

WHAT MASS EMAIL???

was one sent out?

why then were selective mooters not sent one??

is there some sort of first class, second class and scum class here or something? :eek: :eek:

Nope. Not that I know of. and i was the one who proposed to the moot having one. :)

[Spock]

my 2 cents; unable for over 14 hrs. this is crazy. :(

[Earniel]

It's good that I have a lot to do in RL for the moment that I can't run to the computer and check every half an hour if the 'moot is back on. :p

Also good to know what happened to the missing PM's and posts, I was already wondering. It was the first time that I got a notification email and no corresponding PM! If I could turn over my inbox like a desk drawer, I probably would have, to look for that PM.

[Nurvingiel]

Seems like everything is fixed now. I heard all the missing posts were restored. I forget who said that and where though.

Nope. Not that I know of. and i was the one who propagated for the moot having one. :)I think "proposed" is the word you're looking for there. :eek: :D :)

[Butterbeer]

nay - sadly they are still lost sheep wandering the foggy wastes in search of a good shepherd ...

ps - NURV! you not watching the womens hockey???

it's live now - england v new zealand for the bronze medal ..

[Elanor's Angel]

I don't now, I just got one..... but it was'nt from the person who sends me the 'there has been a post' ones..... which not fill my inbox....

[Thain Peregrin Took I]

I wasn't able to go on Entmoot for 3 days! :eek: I'm really glad it's back. :)

[Elanor's Angel]

Oh my gosh! That's terrible!!! *simpathetic hug* Did you get the e-mail?

(wanna help me kill the 90- second rule?)

[Thain Peregrin Took I]

Oh my gosh! That's terrible!!! *simpathetic hug* Did you get the e-mail?
Nope, no e-mail. I just kept on checking every once in a while when I could until it was back up. ;)

[Elanor's Angel]

That's what I was doing until I got the e-mail..... :rolleyes:

[Grey_Wolf]

Seems like everything is fixed now. I heard all the missing posts were restored. I forget who said that and where though.

I think "proposed" is the word you're looking for there. :eek: :D :)

Thanks, Nurv. Correct wording edited in.:)

[Ben]

My midterms are over and I'm home on spring break.

During my time at home I will:


Investigate to see why there's so many technical problems
Finally roll out the Entmoot t-shirts

My apologies for the delays on this.

[hectorberlioz]

Wow :( I feel so sorry for all you guys. I havent had a single problem myself! Thats not to say one cant pop up...

email me if you need to : vincentd_indy@hotmail.com

[Rev. Justin Timberlake]

My apologies for the delays on this.Thanks. I'm sure we all appreciate your efforts.

[rohirrim TR]

I'm sorry I'm not understanding any of this.. er what happened? I recieved an e-mail but it just said something about...umm I'm not sure what it said it didn't look important so I deleted. so what was it all about? what happened on the 20th or whatever it was?

[Bombadillo]

Hmmm, I didn't recieve any email either. But that's weird because I was told here that I should check my inbox.

Also, two days ago, I couldn't even see the moot at www.entmoot.com, and I tried to access it through a google search but that didn't work either. Was it just me, or maybe just Mozilla users as the board was mid-repair? Now it's not a problem anyway.

My midterms are over and I'm home on spring break.

During my time at home I will:


Investigate to see why there's so many technical problems
Finally roll out the Entmoot t-shirts

My apologies for the delays on this.Yay! Don't spend your whole spring break in front of the computer just because we've been bugging you though. I'd feel bad.

EDIT: Oh, I guess I won't be doing anything special for my 1500th post.

[Lotesse]

It probably told you to check your inbox because I PMed you, to tell you about the new address after the first crash, in the hopes that the PM would do exacly what it did - notify you through your e-mail. The reason why you had no PM when you came here is because after the second crash, the whole day and a half after the first crash was deleted from all of Entmoot's database, all the posts, all the PMs, everything transpiring between the two crashes.

[Snowdog]

Ah this explains why I wasn't able to get here from home this weekend.
I have the never updated since 2001 main page as a link, whereas I have a direct link here. I'll fix that when I get home. :)

[tolkienfan]

I got no mass e-mail :(

[Spock]

There wasn't any "TF" so don't feel left out. :)