Prince Caspian - 2007

[sun-star]

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Casting hopes? Scenes you're looking forward to?

[inked]

http://www.narniafans.com/?id=772

AND

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I am just hoping that Douglas Gresham is going to remain an executive producer to maintain the integrity of the adaptations. I thought he did a superb job on LWW.

***fingers crossed*** and +++++++++prayers+++++++

:)


edit: cross reference from the movie thread http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/1/242006b.asp

[rohirrim TR]

Can't wait for Caspian, I was kind of hoping we'd get another director but Adamson did a good job so its all good

the Peter V. Miraz fight promises to be a favorite scene kind of like P vs. WW in LWW and the introduction of Reepicheep, I wonder if they'll flesh out his character a little more.

[Curubethion]

I always liked Caspian because of the underground theme in the beginning...something like a spy thriller, kind of. And, of course, the duel with Miraz will be spectacular. It'll be interesting to see how similar the moving trees look to the ents.

[crickhollow]

I'm a little torn when it comes to the Narnia movie franchise. Torn because it is a children's story and therefore ought be accesible to kids, and also because I'm no longer a kid, and the kid-pandering (and by kid-pandering, i mean things like edmund's horse saying, "hey, my name is phillip", and most of the fox's lines, as well) that happened in LWW irked me. It jarred me out of my suspended disbelief, and I'm more than anything hoping that the series doesn't end with the last three movies being low-budget, and released straight to dvd.

As for Caspian, my favorite part is when lucy sets out on her own and finds aslan.

[Finrod Felagund]

Myself...as Prince Caspian

[sun-star]

The only other suggestion I've heard for Caspian (made on various fan websites by people who possibly haven't read the book) is Orlando Bloom, so at the moment you're in the lead :D

[hectorberlioz]

The only other suggestion I've heard for Caspian (made on various fan websites by people who possibly haven't read the book) is Orlando Bloom, so at the moment you're in the lead :D
Of course! And let's have Andy Serkis do the blueprint movements for Reepicheep! :D

[Curubethion]

The only other suggestion I've heard for Caspian (made on various fan websites by people who possibly haven't read the book) is Orlando Bloom, so at the moment you're in the lead :D
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! PLEASE NOOOO!!!
:D ;)
I think we're safe for the moment. Orlando Bloom's way too old. Who would be a good choice? Hm...don't know that many child actors.

[rohirrim TR]

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! PLEASE NOOOO!!!
:D ;)
I think we're safe for the moment. Orlando Bloom's way too old. Who would be a good choice? Hm...don't know that many child actors.

you're right we shouldn't have Bloom to worry about until "dawn treader" then he could be a contender but most likely he'll be too busy with pirates of carribean 5 by that time :rolleyes:

[crickhollow]

I think they'll probably pick an unknown. That's what they did in the first one, and it was a wise move. They'll get more famous actors to cameo doing voices, like Rupert Everett did in LWW. please, please no John Rhys-Davies as Trumpkin.

[rohirrim TR]

I don't think Davies will do another dwarf, at the end of LOTR filming he burned his prosthetics said he will never play a dwarf as long as he lives, or something to that effect, maybe Kiran Shah again...

[hectorberlioz]

I think they'll probably pick an unknown. That's what they did in the first one, and it was a wise move. They'll get more famous actors to cameo doing voices, like Rupert Everett did in LWW. please, please no John Rhys-Davies as Trumpkin.

I prefer unknowns, even for the roles to be played by older people. Ian McKellen I would have HATED as Aslan. Neeson wasn't exactly that great as a voice either. I guess I'm just used to the BBC production...

btw, Father Christmas was a relatively unknown...but he's been in a bunch of great movies. Braveheart, the 13th Warrior, and a very good Treasure Island production.

[crickhollow]

yeah, i remembered him from Braveheart, too. he was Campbell!

[hectorberlioz]

yeah, i remembered him from Braveheart, too. he was Campbell!

yes indeed:). There's another really famous movie he's in...I'm trying to think of it...

[Acalewia]

I thought he looked familar. I'm trying to think of a good actor to play Glenstorm. Patrick Kake was great as Oreius, but I think they should cast an unknown for him as well. Hmmmm......What do you guys think?

[hectorberlioz]

I thought he looked familar. I'm trying to think of a good actor to play Glenstorm. Patrick Kake was great as Oreius, but I think they should cast an unknown for him as well. Hmmmm......What do you guys think?

If only I knew who they were! Tell me:)

[Acalewia]

Oreius was the main centar in the films. Glenstorm is the only Centar mentioned in Prince Caspian.

[Nurvingiel]

http://www.narniafans.com/?id=772

Casting hopes? Scenes you're looking forward to?Ben Affleck.



Just kidding!!

I hope the director is the same person who did The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. That person is a genius. :cool:

[hectorberlioz]

Ben Affleck.



Just kidding!!

I hope the director is the same person who did The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. That person is a genius. :cool:

I hope so too. He has that youthfulness, and respect for the author that an older more experienced director wouldnt.

[Acalewia]

Ben Affleck.



Just kidding!!

I hope the director is the same person who did The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. That person is a genius. :cool:
:eek: :evil:

[Curubethion]

Keep hyping it! :D

you're right we shouldn't have Bloom to worry about until "dawn treader" then he could be a contender but most likely he'll be too busy with pirates of carribean 5 by that time
EEP! I never thought of that! :eek:

[Acalewia]

NO BLOOM!!!!! He's too much of a pretty boy, imo, to play Caspian.

[rohirrim TR]

NO BLOOM!!!!! He's too much of a pretty boy, imo, to play Caspian.
well actually depending on the time between the filming of "treader" and PC they might be able to use the same guy. at least I hope they're able to.

[Acalewia]

well actually depending on the time between the filming of "treader" and PC they might be able to use the same guy. at least I hope they're able to.
Meaning they'll have to wait three years after filming PC. Of course there's always makeup to make him look three years older. Remember, It was only a year in our world between PC and VotDT and three years in Narnia.

[Curubethion]

Meaning they'll have to wait three years after filming PC. Of course there's always makeup to make him look three years older. Remember, It was only a year in our world between PC and VotDT and three years in Narnia.
*sigh* if only it worked that way for filming the movies. :D

I can't wait until Caspian. Although they'll have to tone down the final duel. I remember one of the lords got his head and legs lopped off by Peter. :eek:
Of course, I wouldn't exactly want to see that.

[rohirrim TR]

*sigh* if only it worked that way for filming the movies. :D

I can't wait until Caspian. Although they'll have to tone down the final duel. I remember one of the lords got his head and legs lopped off by Peter. :eek:
Of course, I wouldn't exactly want to see that.
what do you mean you wouldn't want see that!?..I mean err...uhh right :evil: *thinks of monty python* "Its just a flesh wound"

[rohirrim TR]

check out the april fools prank this narnia news site pulled on all of its e-mail recipients http://www.narniaweb.com/default41.asp :D

[tolkienfan]

That is hilarious! :D

[rohirrim TR]

when they first sent me the mr. T as Reepicheep one I about freaked out, that is, until i noticed a small disclaimer at the bottom of the page. ;)

[Curubethion]

I loved the Mr. T-Reepicheep picture!

[Acalewia]

*Laughs until her side aches and people start telling her to shut-up* :D

[hectorberlioz]

Digory's Angels would be hilarious:p

[Finrod Felagund]

The fellow who directed LWW hopes to do all 7 I believe. He is also the Director of Shrek and Shrek II.

[Acalewia]

Andrew Adamson?
I was checking out the extra stuff on the DVD and found that one of the producers is Lewis' stepson. I'll bet he stays on board for the other six.

[hectorberlioz]

Andrew Adamson?
I was checking out the extra stuff on the DVD and found that one of the producers is Lewis' stepson. I'll bet he stays on board for the other six.
That would be Douglas Gresham :) , son of the american(?) woman Lewis married, and which is the topic of the movie Shadowlands.

[GreyMouser]

Would like to see the romance between Susan and Caspian... though they'd have to fit it into a pretty tight time frame, but we all know what Su was like...

[sun-star]

Nah, surely it's Caspian and Lucy...

[inked]

God deliver us from romance in this mode! AAAAaaaaiiiiieeeeee!

This is a Romance, ya'll, not a romance novel. Ecchh! :p

[Acalewia]

LOL, inked :D
Grrrr! Stupid 90 second rule!

[hectorberlioz]

Nah, surely it's Caspian and Lucy...
Really!...I hope you guys are purposefully reading into the story there, because I never even suspected anything like it...

[sun-star]

I can't speak for GM, but I've never seen a hint nor a clue nor even an inkling of any romance, if that makes you feel better :D Just a joke.

[GreyMouser]

C'mon, you can't sell a movie without romance. Just ask Peter Jackson....

[inked]

I can't speak for GM, but I've never seen a hint nor a clue nor even an inkling of any romance, if that makes you feel better :D Just a joke.

Now that's not true, sun-star. Remember the events on Ramandu's island: his daughter and Caspian. There was a dawn of romance, if you like! And a dawn is more than an inkling! :cool:

[sun-star]

Romance in the sense of the medieval genre, yes; not romance in the sense of two people convincingly falling in love with each other :p

EDIT: and anyway, that's in VDT...

[inked]

Ah, sun-star, you are now in the dawning of the age of.....................
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comprehension of punning! :p

[hectorberlioz]

speaking of stuff on this subject, it use to make absolutely no sense to me that Peter and Edmund's queens were their own sisters. Surely CSL wasn't a supporter of...well, you get my confusion.

Have there ever been any brother sister rulers before? Perhaps CSL modeled the idea on an historic pair?

[sun-star]

I can't think of any, partly because it's unusual to have more than one monarch at a time anyway. Normally, Peter would be the king and the others would be princes and princesses unless he died without issue. There are comments on the strangeness of this in the books - IIRC, the Calormenes think it's odd in HHB, and in Prince Caspian it's one reason why the Telmarines consider the Golden Age of Narnia to be a myth. I wonder what would have happened in the line of succession if any of the Pevensies had married and had children of their own - it's a dynastic nightmare waiting to happen!

Anyway, what makes you think Lucy and Susan were their brothers' queens, rather than the boys being their sisters' kings? :p

[Acalewia]

Good question

[inked]

I can't think of any, partly because it's unusual to have more than one monarch at a time anyway. Normally, Peter would be the king and the others would be princes and princesses unless he died without issue. There are comments on the strangeness of this in the books - IIRC, the Calormenes think it's odd in HHB, and in Prince Caspian it's one reason why the Telmarines consider the Golden Age of Narnia to be a myth. I wonder what would have happened in the line of succession if any of the Pevensies had married and had children of their own - it's a dynastic nightmare waiting to happen!

Anyway, what makes you think Lucy and Susan were their brothers' queens, rather than the boys being their sisters' kings? :p

Mr. Lewis' thorough-going grounding in medieval studies, perhaps.

[Curubethion]

I don't think that they were considered being each others' kings or queens. Instead, they were four seperate monarchs ruling over Narnia. I like the way that the movie presented it: each one of them ruled over part of Narnia. A very good solution.

[inked]

Ah, but Peter is the High King of all Narnia under Aslan. The others defer to him when necessary in ruling the kingdom. This is seen in the working out of the other novels in the series.

[hectorberlioz]

I can't think of any, partly because it's unusual to have more than one monarch at a time anyway. Normally, Peter would be the king and the others would be princes and princesses unless he died without issue. There are comments on the strangeness of this in the books - IIRC, the Calormenes think it's odd in HHB, and in Prince Caspian it's one reason why the Telmarines consider the Golden Age of Narnia to be a myth. I wonder what would have happened in the line of succession if any of the Pevensies had married and had children of their own - it's a dynastic nightmare waiting to happen!

Anyway, what makes you think Lucy and Susan were their brothers' queens, rather than the boys being their sisters' kings? :p
Good question...many English Queens kicked butt :D

[sun-star]

Exactly :D

[Acalewia]

Wasn't there a set brother-sister rulers in Egypt? He may have been basing it on them?

[hectorberlioz]

Wasn't there a set brother-sister rulers in Egypt? He may have been basing it on them?
What came first to my mind was the Commodus and Sister portrayal in "Gladiator"...

[Acalewia]

Well I don't think Gladiator was around when CSL wrote Narnia, but I get your point. You are suggesting brother/sister rulers in Rome, right?

[hectorberlioz]

Well I don't think Gladiator was around when CSL wrote Narnia, but I get your point. You are suggesting brother/sister rulers in Rome, right?

That was my initial thought...

[sun-star]

Casting news - including Caspian himself!

http://www.narniaweb.com/news.asp?dl=5472490

[Butterbeer]

BB approves of BB. ;)

[rohirrim TR]

He looks kinda old for "Prince Caspian" He oughta be perfect for "...Dawn Treader" though.

[Butterbeer]

it's a bit easier to make a youthful looking adult, look 13, than to take a 13 year old and then make him an adult for the next film - either way you have the same issue, unless they intend waiting ...

[sun-star]

I agree, and it's better to have a good 25-year-old actor who looks fairly young than a 13-year-old who can't act, like they had in the early Harry Potter films.

[The last sane person]

Hmm, interesting. And I agree, it's easier to make the fellow look younger, so long as he can act. And he can!

As for the Dynastic nightmare....

The set up rather reminds me of the Persian ShahhanShah, or King of Kings. Peter is high king, which is like our high Shah, of true bloodline. His brother and sisters are like the lesser kings and queens, that ruled the provinces and conquered areas. They would indeed be ultimate powers in their own chunk of the empire, but in matters that pretained to the entirety of the empire, they would have to deffer to the high king, which, probably they would also be related to through political marriages.

In some cases, if the natural bloodline of a conquered area died and had no heir or if they would come in to serious coup-de-ta, the Shah would probably send one of his nearest relations (brothers, sisters, Uncle, aunt type) to go and become a king or queen and rule that province/nation under him. That ought to explain C.S.L's strange choice, I do believe he picked that part up from our traditions. Because, from my point of view, it is spookily similar.

[hectorberlioz]

Warwick Davis cast! Not as Prince Caspian of course, but as Kikabrik the dwarve.

[The last sane person]

Nikabrik. Kikabrik is his cousin you dolt.

[hectorberlioz]

Nikabrik, Kikabrik...they all look like Warwick Davis:p

[rohirrim TR]

it's a bit easier to make a youthful looking adult, look 13, than to take a 13 year old and then make him an adult for the next film - either way you have the same issue, unless they intend waiting ...
Good point. and of course the acting ability is a rather good thing to have. Not familiar with this Barnes guy, is he famous over there across the pond?

[sun-star]

Don't think so, I've never heard of him. He doesn't seem to have been in anything big.

[Acalewia]

I guess only time will tell. I've never heard of this kid, so we'll see how he is as Caspian.

For some reason I kept picturing the guy that played Eragon as Caspian. *shrugs*

[Butterbeer]

Let's hope it is better than the first disaster.


Rather anyone other than Disney, too, while we are at it!

[tolkienfan]

I believe it was actually Walden, and Disney just did the marketing.

BB, I asked because there's a character in some Terry Pratchett books called Captain Carrot, and I thought CC in the welcoming thread needed welcoming so that's why I asked. You tricked me. :( (maybe we should go start up the Terry Pratchett thread! :) )

[sun-star]

Would like to see the romance between Susan and Caspian... though they'd have to fit it into a pretty tight time frame, but we all know what Su was like...

According to a report here (http://www.narniaweb.com/news.asp?id=1084&dl=11582540) on the audition scenes used for Caspian:

The second scene was actually a blend of an edited scene from the book, and an added scene for the movie. Susan is attempting to train the old Narnians in archery (and failing miserably), when Caspian comes along and tries to show off his own skills. Susan puts him up to a challenge, which he quickly and a bit smugly accepts, and then gets to show him up when he doesn’t perform... Their dialogue is very flirty, very catty. Susan does not like Caspian’s ego, despite his good intentions and clearly golden heart, but in the end, there winds up being a very flirtatious vibe between the two. I don’t think there is going to be some big romance, but judging by the portion of the script I read, there will definitely be a flirtation

:eek:

[The last sane person]

Oh the naughty girl... Er.. Queen!

[hectorberlioz]

As long as they keep it...square:p, I don't mind.

[Acalewia]

:eek:
Oh the naughty girl... Er.. Queen!
Indeed!

[rohirrim TR]

Interesting..I don't really see how they're going to have time for something so extraneous, theres a lot of stuff happening in Prince Caspian everything moves pretty fast. I hope they're not buthering the original PC won't be too hard to keep accurate and still have an interesting movie.

[sun-star]

It suggests to me that this archery contest replaces the one Susan has with Trumpkin early on in the book, so maybe they're planning to compress the long section where Trumpkin meets the children and takes them to Caspian into something shorter.

[rohirrim TR]

It suggests to me that this archery contest replaces the one Susan has with Trumpkin early on in the book, so maybe they're planning to compress the long section where Trumpkin meets the children and takes them to Caspian into something shorter.
That will kind of suck, cause then we won't really get to know Trumpkin...of course this is all purely speculatory. :p

[sun-star]

Indeed :D

[Acalewia]

It suggests to me that this archery contest replaces the one Susan has with Trumpkin early on in the book, so maybe they're planning to compress the long section where Trumpkin meets the children and takes them to Caspian into something shorter.
I like that scene. One of my favs.