harry potter and the goblet of fire : the film

[emily leonard]

the trailers are amazing but how do you think this film will shape up compared to the other 3? :rolleyes:

[Rconsole]

I think it's gonna blow the others away, i've always thought that Goblet of Fire was breaking away from all of the rest nad it's been my favourite book for a while, I really hope it becomes my favourite movie too
:)

[tolkienfan]

Yeah it's my favorite HP book too, the trailer looks good! I'm really excited!

[Elanor]

check out this wacky picture (http://www.geocities.com/rfresa/voldemort.jpg) from one of the tv-spots.
You can just barely see voldemort, right when the spells connect. And of course the deatheaters in their black-kkk hoods. Coolness!

[durinsbane2244]

i know that they're only gettin british actors, but who else thinks that jack nicholsen would be an awesome moody?

[Lord Choc Obo]

i know that they're only gettin british actors, but who else thinks that jack nicholsen would be an awesome moody?
raises hand

[durinsbane2244]

whoot!

[durinsbane2244]

ok, a funny moody would be rip torn! hehe, if you can dodge a unforgivable curse, you can dodge an jinx! *fires cruciatus*

[Finrod Felagund]

Not a big fan of Moody's eye...it looks goofy. Fleur doesn't look ALL that pretty. And Madame Maxine scares me! But other than that I quite look forward to seeing it.

[Rconsole]

Yeah maxime looks like she had too much plastic surgery or something...anf Fleurs supposed to be hot...but she's not :(

[durinsbane2244]

waaaaaaah! :( :( :mad: !

[Elanor]

Yeah, I don't understand why Fleur always has her hair up-- in the books it always describes her "long, flowing hair" falling around her face, but in the trailers it's always up so you can't tell what it looks like. Mad-Eye is disappointing too-- they could have done so much more with CGI instead of animatronics! Maybe the movie makers think the kids can't react convincingly unless they can see the eye moving...

I was very satisfied by Rita Skeeter's and Barty Crouch's appearance, though! They'll both be great.

[Lord Choc Obo]

I might be kinda prejugded, but I kinda like Fleur (I'm half french and I always liked classy french girls :D, I know it might be no one agrees with me but I don't care)

oh and moody??? what the crap, he's supposed to pop his eye in and out, what's up with the stupid ugly thing???? god, it looks awfull, totally agree with Elanor on the CGI, animatronics thing

[Spock]

I guess I'm fortunate not to have seen any trailers. I have to wait for it to come out on dvd or ppv anyway, so I'll just keep the memory of my imagination fresher that much longer :)

[Spock]

I tried to get the trailer w/my dial up connection but it is all blurry (is that a word?). The poster is very nice though.

http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/gobletoffire/images/gof_poster.jpg

[durinsbane2244]

sweet! thankee, that's a cool poster! now, to google, and to the trailer!

[Spock]

Well, 9hrs. and 10 min of download last night -yes that long!- and I still can't get it to run.

Sunday 10:36am, I am still attempting to see something but once again have to wait for the stuff to load up, even though I now have QT version 7. So far I'm waiting 2 hrs. :(

[Spock]

OH, Are the boards clocks off???? WE went *back* one hour last night :D

[durinsbane2244]

good point, i can't tell....

[Lord Choc Obo]

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiit's WINTERTIME, houray :D

you do know what wintertime is, right?? :D

[Spock]

Acutally it's fall. Winter starts 21Dec05. :)

and the boards time is now in sync with the change

[durinsbane2244]

ok, i have just seen the trailer on the telly, and wow...everything is sweet and wicked, except for [and here comes what i'll be ranting about for at least a couple weeks] moody! not only is he not jack nicholson[hehe], but his eye does indeed suck! it has a strap! A STRAP! bah, you haven't heard the last of me....

[Elanor]

I just saw two cool video clips from the movie. They're both linked from mugglenet.

This one (http://media.mugglenet.com/20051031-gofellen/20051031-gofellen.wmv) builds up to the First Task. Harry and Hermione talk and hug, and Rita Skeeter makes a big deal about it. Then the 4 champions draw their little dragons out of a bag. Barty Crouch is well played, I think.

A video clip of the Quidditch World Cup (http://www.omelete.com.br/cinema/news/base_para_news.asp?artigo=15235) is also available. This one is very nice, introducing the Irish and Bulgarian teams. Harry, Hermione, and the Weasleys cheer and Victor Krum shows off. :)

Here (ftp://public5.mugglenet.com/gof/VoldemortClip.mp3) is an audio clip of Voldemort speaking. A little different than I imagine his voice, but it does sound evil...

[durinsbane2244]

coool! thankee!

[Lord Choc Obo]

real nice of you to share that with us elanor, thank you.

does it bother anyone else that hermione is wearing normal clothes in the first clip?? they already did this is PoA movie, they're supposed to be wearing robes on normal schooldays dammit :-(

[Spock]

I thought Hermione in pink was a real eye opener; as did Weesley :)

[durinsbane2244]

yes, i too want the robes to come back...and they've done it just when robes got cool! and the scarf thingys....AND MOODY'S EYE!

[Spock]

having finally seen a trailer I am guessing they saved a bunch of money by having it strapped on instead of CG....what the heck, the rest looked good. :)

[Elanor]

I think they should wear robes with casual clothes underneath--that's always how I pictured it. No dress shirts and ties!

[Spock]

Well it is a private school; dress codes do exist (thankfully).

[Elanor]

But the only dress code mentioned in the books is black robes. It never says they have to wear any special clothes underneath-- in fact, you could even make a case that they don't wear anything underneath... :eek:

[Spock]

Point taken. However, it is a school in the UK and Rowling writing with that background had to think "dress code" as any decent or private school in the UK has same.

[Rían]

My daughter just saw the preview on tv, and came running in and told me it looked scary! (She's 9)

I can't wait!

[tolkienfan]

The book says Harry wears jeans under his robes I think... and the sweaters from Mrs. Weasley. Maybe there's no dress code around Christmas?

[Spock]

My daughter just saw the preview on tv, and came running in and told me it looked scary! (She's 9)

I can't wait!

The film carries a PG-13 rating in the U.S. IMO, some children shouldn't see it. If you read the book you'll see there are some gruesome scenes and be aware for your youn'ins. :)

[durinsbane2244]

indeed! dragon, knife, stunning, cruciatus, MOODY'S EYE! :mad:

[Elanor]

Not to mention Voldemort's resurrection...

[durinsbane2244]

yea, that's true...I'M GOING ON FRIDAY!!!!WHOOT!!! :D :D
.....................
AND MOODY'S EYE! :mad:

[Elanor]

I'm jealous-- I can't go until Monday.

[Rían]

The film carries a PG-13 rating in the U.S. IMO, some children shouldn't see it. If you read the book you'll see there are some gruesome scenes and be aware for your youn'ins. :)
Yes, I'm going with my oldest son (15) first - the two youngest are NOT going to go until I vet it for them :)

The bit at the end of the book is pretty gruesome. They might just have to wait until it comes out on video, where we can fast-forward through that scene if I think it's too much for them.

[sun-star]

I'm going to see it at midnight tonight :D

[klatukatt]

I saw it at midnight last night.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


LOVE!

I am a villian fancier at heart and these villians are GREAT!!!

[durinsbane2244]

i just got home from it, and it kicks ass, but, like all book films, it's good, but far from the story, though if i use that with my, shall we say, "thicker" friends, they shall mock me.... :( :eek: :D

[sun-star]

I thought it was really good, but as always they had to miss loads out, and then they add in long random invented bits instead... Great special effects, of course, some very cool villians (David Tennant!) and impressive set-piece scenes like the Yule Ball and Quidditch World Cup. Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Watson still can't act, though.

And it's so scary :eek:

[Rían]

I'm surprised I haven't heard from more Mooters yet on this movie!

I'll probably see it Monday with my oldest son - we both want to see it, and I need to "vet" it for the two younger ones. I have a feeling they'll need to wait for the release to video, though, and that handy "fast-forward" feature.

[klatukatt]

You want to hear something?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

villians! oooooooooooooooooooooh goooooooood!


This movie will turn many people into PVFs* and then we shall TAKE OVER THE NET!

*(PVFs = Pervy Villian Fanciers)

[Pytt]

I saw it friday night. It was very very good. The best film yet. But lots of cool stuff is replaced or deleted, but it have been that way in the previous movies as well.

But the Qudditch World Cup Arena! MAN! I fell in love with that! Amazing <3

The film was quite scary. On the graveyard and stuff..

[Nurvingiel]

Apparently, there was no Quidditch at the Quidditch World Cup. :confused:

[Arien the Maia]

I just saw i tlast night....I loved it! It more than made up for the last movie IMO! I have plans to see it again. Even though they cut out stuff, I thought that it went really well...it kept moving along an I never really got bored with it. great movie! I am also a villan lover so it was cool to see Voldemort back although IMO he's not quite evil looking enough...

[sun-star]

Apparently, there was no Quidditch at the Quidditch World Cup. :confused:

Indeed not - they showed the build-up, including the teams coming out, and then cut to the Weasleys celebrating. There were some odd bits of continuity which I'm sure would never have made sense if you hadn't read the book. For example, it went trio travelling on Hogwarts Express -> students watching Durmstrang and Beauxbatons arriving -> Dumbledore announcing that new students were joining them for the Triwizard Cup :confused:

It's interesting, because it was only after I'd seen it and thought about it that I realised how much had been cut out - like Sirius living in the cave, Rita Skeeter as an illegal animagus, all mention of house elves, etc. Those are huge points, but I think it's a mark of how well the film worked as a film that I didn't notice they were missing at the time...

Watching it at midnight was so cool though. It was just the really keen HP fans, so there was lots of audience reaction - including cheers when any scene showed a shot of Oxford :cool:

[Master'sBaneSwiftSnowmane]

I'm going to copy and paste what I thought of the movie from another website. I'm also going to paste my coments to some things people have said on that website, I'll to clear it up, but if I don't make any sense go ahead and ask!

This was an excellent movie. Three thumbs way, way up for the new director and three thumbs way, way up for the scirpt writers and three thumbs way, way up for the actors. It was hilariously funny, but not in an unreal way, it seemed like a group of friends hanging out, and you could really picture yourself saying some of those things to your friends and then having a good laugh about it. You know, minus the magic and all.

A few dissappointing aspects: Sirius was not in the movie as much as I would have liked. The triwizard earnings weren't mentioned, so it'll be interesting to see how they set up Gred and Forge's joke shop. Also, Rita Skeeter was in the movie but nothing about her beetle form. Oh well. Irksome, but I can almost understand, the avoidance of the marauders. They weren't elaborated on in the third movie, so who could expect them to in the fourth? The script writers didn't really need to elborate any way because of the change in the Barty Crouch plot. But really, in the grand scheme of the books, how important is the sub-plot of the marauders? It seemed that instead of magic, Harry used his physical strength more. The challenges didn't seem to focus on the champion's magical ability, but rather the champion's ability to run really fast. Mrytle in this movie was little creey. Okay, a lot creepy. "When the other boy was done, there were almost no bubbles left. *peers into inappropriate place*" The Hungarian Horntail wasn't a Dragon (a beast with four legs, two wings, and spits fire), but rather a Wyvern (a beast that is cousin to the dragon but has only two back legs and stands rather like a chicken on them and two wings with claw-like apendages, the Wyvern behaves remarkably like a bat in it's use of its wings.). Dumbldore didn't seem up to par, then again, the script writers could have been gearing him more toward the sixth book and if that's the plan, then I'm ok with it.

Enough complaints though, I looooooooved the soundtrack. (Random, but who cares?) Again, the humour was just amazing, it was so artfully done. They balanced it with the plot so well that it wasn't glaringly obivous that you were laughing at something when underneath you know that Harry is about to face the most scary thing that he has yet faced. Personally, I enjoyed the way the male actors looked. And Neville, my my, you have grown. Sarah thought his dancing was cute, and I agree...but I thought it was more amusing than anything else. And really, don't we all love knowing that "Viktor is more a physical kind of guy"? Harry's look after she said that was great.

For me, this was a very emotional movie. I even cried a bit. I believe that everyone captured that sadness and even anger that was very present at the end of the book. Now, while being funny the movie was still as true to the plot as it could be. Some things had to be left, but none of it was so awful that I can begrudge this new director his kudos. The acting in this movie also improved greatly. I am very happy about that....other developments as well *naughty look*.

What can I say? I'm just a 16 year old girl driven by horomones. I also know that in another thread I've made a name for myself on being shallow and seeing the movie just for the male actors. While that has been a large part of this post, I hope that you will look past it and see that during the movie I was taking in far more than Daniel Radcliff with his shirt off.

If you think about it, if Harry hadn't been so noble, Cedric (who was very attractive) would still be alive. If Harry hadn't played the hero, Sirius would still be alive. It's Harry's tragic flaw. He loses everyone he cares about and it hurts him, which is a sort of handicap. Whereas Voldemort loses people, but he doesn't care because he only focuses on what they can give him and if they die they have served their purpose and so be it. That way of life limits his point of view, not allowing him to see everything that he should, that is Voldemort's handicap. The question is, which will win out? The man handicaped by his nobility, his ability to love greatly, or the man handicaped by his hate, his inability to see and recognize love and the choices it makes. Then again, is love a handicap? Is the inability to love a handicap? I suppose JKR will give us her version of the answer in the seventh and final installment of the Harry Potter books.

Dissertation of Harry Potter by Sarah and Jennifer (<----Inside joke. Also, the last paragraph are just a few random thoughts, read them if you want...comment if you want, I just needed to put them somewhere so that my head wouldn't implode. The internet is my pensieve.)

(Someone complained about the dragon scene being too long): The Dragon scene(which should be called the Wyvern scene) was made longer because it was the first task. It was the first time the viewer gets to see the kind of danger that Harry is really in. I think they made it longer to emulate that a little. The special effects were very nice too.
(Someone complained about how the casting for these two characters was poorly done): I think Fleur and Cho were such iffy characters because they had all of three lines. You also have to keep in mind that Cho was developed a lot more in the third novel and so, should have been in the third movie. As she was not in the third movie at all, I hold nothing against this Director as far as Cho is concerned. I thought that they did a very nice job with Fleur. She's important, so they show a fair amount of her...but she's not essential to any future plot (I am not counting Bill getting married as part of the Harry vs. Voldemort plot and that is what is essential) so lets not dwell on her. That's the feel I got anyway. As far as Cho is concerned, I wish they had done more with her, but again she isn't really essential, so why do I want to see an hour and half of her?
(People didn't like the Lord Moldy Shorts scene): Voldemort was done well in my opinion. With a book made movie some exceptions must be made and if JKR didn't like him, she would have said so.
(People missed Dobby, and I did too but I'd rather leave him out than sit through another hour of movie): Well, again, I wouldn't consider Dobby essential. Yeah, I miss him...but I'm losing no sleep.
(Someone said that the Quidditch World Cup wasn't in the movie at all): They most certainly had the Quidditch World Cup. They didn't show the game, but if they had wouldn't that simply make people say, "Why did they spend that much extra time on something that's not important?" (Was referring back to a persons earlier comment about the Wyvern scene.)
(Self explainitory): Come on, SPEW? I think it's obvious why they left that out. It was not important.
(Missing Winky now): They didn't have Winky because they changed the Barty Crouch plot. It was shorter and yet still got the point across. I'd rather them do that than sit there another hour to watch exposition of a non-essential character.
(Missing Ludo): Again, was Ludo all that important? I never really like him in the book anyway.
(Complainging about Moody's leg being metallic and not wooden): Moody having a wooden leg in the book made him sound like a pirate, very badass. But if you had seen a wooden leg in this setting it wouldn't have looked nearly as cool as the metal one, for all of the eight seconds that it was shown. (I do miss that line...but they still did Moody very well.) "Constant Vigilance!" Was it important? Did he still scare the pee out of the students? No, it wasn't and Yes, he did. So I don't really mind. It was true to the book as far as emotions go.
(Missing funny descriptions): The descriptions in the book about people at the World Cup were hilarious, but you'd have another half an hour of unimportant information to do that in a movie. The well-done humour of the rest of the movie made up for it.
(Complaining about the corny entrance of the two schools...I didn't care for it, but its ok because I thought that it was hilariously stupid): They had to make the intrance of the Beubaxtons and Drumstrang scenes interesting. Granted, they could have done a better job...but I'd rather have that than just see them walk in. What a downer that would have been. Also, even though the entrances were rather...exaggerated...I laughed and half when I saw it.
(Hm, complaints about Dumbldore and I'll post some things about this next so that this doesn't get too long): Agree about Dumbldore, and I did defend him in the other thread.
(Complimenting Barty Crouch Jr.): Agree about BCJr. Except the whole tongue thing. But, that was the movie's way of identifying him without the marauder's map. (Can't believe no one's said anything about the absence of that yet.)
(Talk of the Death Eaters...): The Death Eaters hoods looked like black KKK hoods. The masks weren't what I expected and Voldemort shouldn't have taken them off. Other than that I liked it.
(Missing Sirius): Sirius was left out a bit too much, but again, he's not all that essential. He's basically just an emotional upheaval for Harry in the next books, and you can always represent that in ways that will still stay true to the characters.

[Master'sBaneSwiftSnowmane]

Sorry about the length of my posts...I know its annoying having to read all that or even to skip to the vital points to move on to the next post, sorry.

This is about Dumbldore in this movie. (People were throwing dirty sock at the actor...but its not his fault! Blame it on the casting director.)

I don't think that he was the best choice for the character, but maybe instead of throwing dirty socks at him, you should mail in your suggestions for a different actor to the director?
In the thrid movie, I blame Dumbldore's apparent stupidity on the script writers. I absolutely abhored the way that he was portrayed in that movie, but I do not blame it on him.
In the fourth movie, (I've posted something like this in my review of the movie) I don't really like how he was done, but I think a lot of that was geared more for his attitude and actions in the sixth book. Its all well and good to slowly develop a character in a book, but quite another in a movie. I understand that in movies some liberties must be taken and even though I don't really like this new Dumbldore I can't think of a better actor that fits the description, i.e. older, perferrably holds himself with a more noble stance, much like that of Dumbldore's. Ian Meckellan(sp?) possibly? Or perhaps you'd like that Sean Connery accent for Dumbldore? (Was being sarcastic when I suggested both of them.)

(People were making comments and I had to get my two cents in...sorry. Also, this is just how I interpreted these things.) Dumbldore isn't a grandfatherly character though. In the four novels he purposely distances himself from Harry because he knows things about this boy that the boy himself doesn't even know. Also, I think he distances himself because he honestly cares for Harry and he understands the danger of openly caring for this boy. Harry however, sees Dumbldore as a sort of Deity. He is this wise old man who seems to know everything and that emotion stops Harry from feeling as though Dumbldore is his pseudo-grandfather.
In the next two novels, however, Dumbldore loses his Deity status to Harry. He becomes an old man who happens to be very powerful. Harry's channeling of Voldemort's anger in the fifth novel and Dumbldore's furthering distancing of Harry stops any relationship development the two could have had.
In the sixth novel Harry and Dumbldore become friends. Not close friends, the age difference, the relationship in other books and so on kept that from happening. And, really, Dumbldore is just trying to help Harry grow in the sense of his powers and understanding of magic.
If the headmaster was ever Harry's pseudo-grandfather, it was only in his mind. To Harry he was someone wise he could look to for advice on magic and Voldemort then eventually in Harry's mind Dumbldore became more of a friend.
You say in the third movie that Dumbldore was ok? He seemed very dumb in the third movie. Specific example: he hits Ron on his injured foot. Atleast Dumbldore wasn't dumb in this movie. I understand that he wouldn't be so dramatic in the books, but this is a movie and sometimes to get your point across you have to change the characters some.
The old Dumbldore was only slightly better. That Dumbldore (pardon what I'm about to say as I realize its and insult to his memory) looked like he was about to fall over and die. He didn't have any of the energy that Dumbldore had in the books. True, he was more to the character but he was sooooo dull and boring.

[inked]

Qick review: it was okay for a flick. Just missed 60% of the text without allusion. But hey, would they make a 16 hour movie? Not even for Tolkien!

[Master'sBaneSwiftSnowmane]

Haha, good point. I don't think I'd sit through a 16 hour movie, not even for Tolkien. The movie is also on a budget, and that has a lot to do with what the directors and producers do and don't cut.

[Lord Choc Obo]

16 hour movie??? BRING IT ON :D imagine every HP movie being as long as the extended editions of LOTR (about 240 minutes if I'm correct) :D that would make a total length of 28 hours, god I'd like that, but yeah, I'm a strange guy :D

[durinsbane2244]

here's a few points:

ok, quidditch world cup, no quidditch, cool completely vertical seats,

NO VEELA!!!!! :( :( :( :( :( :(

random skipping between tasks, first task changed, and a good glare from ron that made me say, [a bit too loud perhaps, cuz i got the entire theatre laughing,] BUM BUM BUUUUUM after he tells harry to piss off, also i got laughs when he's in bed and i proclaimed; "the wizard's got a beater!' but yes, good fun.... :D

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

I'll post more fully later, as I have to go in a minute. I didn't think it was a brilliant film to be honest. I know if they had tried to fit everything in it would have been about four hours long or rushed, but I'll post my reasons more fully later.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

I just saw the flick a few hours ago with my girlfriend, she says she likes the third film better but I think I like this one a bit more. The first two films for us seemed a little too... pg... but I guess thats what they were. I have not read a single page of the Harry Potter books and I still had a strong feeling that A LOT of things were left out as usual! As a whole I think this film turned out very good, I loved the Ball scean except for the rock band thing, I would have liked to see the whole thing in a more traditional setting as it started out(not sure of that whole thing is in the book) The trials seemed to be done quite well, the dragon, underwater, and maze sceans were awsome. Two problems I had were one, that Irish/Asian girl Harry was after... who was she? She seemed to be an important character but got no time in the film, was she a more important character in the book? Even in the book? And two, the gravyard scean was "creepy" in a pg kind of way but it seemed a little inconclusive. Unlike with the father = animagus explaination in film 3.... what was the reason for the parents n'such in this film? The whole scean seemed to be missing some info... Anyways, thats my rant on the film, overall good... (A-)

[sun-star]

Two problems I had were one, that Irish/Asian girl Harry was after... who was she? She seemed to be an important character but got no time in the film, was she a more important character in the book? Even in the book?

That's actually about as much time as she had in the book :D She's not important except as Harry's (brief) love interest. I thought the actress did quite well considering her miniscule little part, and the fact that so many girls in the fandom claim to hate both her and the character. I never imagined Cho with such a cute Scottish accent either!

[Spock]

I can only say I got to see the A&E hr. special on the making of the film and was quite impressed by what I saw. Now I sit patiently (well not always) until the DVD comes out. :(

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Okay here are my complaints.
I didn't like the portrayal of Mad Eye Moody. I know he is meant to be mad, but IMO the way he was done made him look completley stupid, not the famous Auror that he was.
I was disappointed with the Quiddich World Cup for two reasons. One, there was no Quidditch, so we didn't really see what all the hype about Viktor Krum was. Two, the Death Eater scene. I was looking forward to seeing Crouch publically punish his house elf, who we didn't even meet, and becasue of that Hermione didn't start her house elf rights obsession.
In all the other films there was at least one of every lesson, but in this film there was only one lesson in the whole film. It made it look slightly like there were no lessons once the Triwizard Tournament had started. Also the absence of the Weasley family during the Tournament annoyed me slightly.
Lastly and probably the thing which irritated me the most was the way everything was left unfinished. Nothing was explained to you, and one of the most key parts, the denial of Cornelius Fudge, was left out at the end.

Other than that I loved it!

[Rían]

My oldest son and I saw it last night. It was - eeeh, it just didn't engage me like the other ones did. Maybe that was because we went to the theater near our house and the power had just gone out, so we had to stand in line and get a refund, then we raced across town to the other theater and walked in just as it was starting, so I wasn't exactly relaxed.

I just felt that there was so much they tried to cover that it ended up not having much depth. I was disappointed, and I was looking forward to really enjoying it.

Hermione looked "pretty in pink", though! But Victor Krum looked too old for a student, IMO. And what's with the retro hairdo for Ron?

And I still can't stand the new Dumbledore actor :( The first one was SO good :(

Maybe I'll like it better if/when I watch it again. Worth seeing, but just not as good as the others, IMO.

[durinsbane2244]

well, maybe they'll pull a peter jackson and throw the missing stuff in at the end...yes, that's 2 towers-return of the king referance...you gotta problem? bite me! :D

[Spock]

I just felt that there was so much they tried to cover that it ended up not having much depth. I was disappointed, and I was looking forward to really enjoying it.

Well it was the longest book to that point. Two nights ago A&E had an hour on the making of the movie and I too agree that Krum looks way too old to be a student and was disappointed in the new D. actor as well.

However, when it comes out on DVD, I'll buy it anyway. ;)

[durinsbane2244]

i must say, i thought that the durmstrang students were quite snazzy with those staves...er, i'm almost sure that's the right plural of staff, but not totally.... :D

[tolkienfan]

I just saw it, I liked it better than I liked the third movie. I didn't like Dumbledore, he was mean. I didn't like Ron either, the actor is fine, it's just that half the time he opened his mouth he started swearing. Krum, Fleur, and Cedric, Cho, and Rita Skeeter were pretty good I think. Daniel Radcliffs acting was much better. The hedge maze was scary! The graveyard scene was good, so was the second task. The dragon scene started out good, but I think it was too long, I did not like Harry hanging off the roof, the dragon was too small, I just wish they had kept it closer to the book. The ball was pretty good, but I did not like the bath scene. When I heard they left out all of the house-elves I was a little upset, but it worked pretty well. I guess they had to cut all of it. I love the Ton Tounge Toffee part of the book, and it would have been a cool scene, but after thinking about it I guess they didn't need it. I'll post more later, I have to go.

[Rconsole]

I'm gonna see it tonight, they cut out the elves :( o well i have such high expectations for this movie...i hope i don't get too disapointed

[tolkienfan]

Why did Crouch Jr. keep flicking his tounge out like a snake or something? He was pretty freaky.

[sun-star]

I thought he was rather... ahem... more attractive than one might expect an insane patricidal Azkaban-escapee to be. Looking forward to seeing him as the new Doctor Who :cool:

[tolkienfan]

I didn't like Moody very much either. His eye wasn't quite how I pictured it and he was a little too mean in his class.

[durinsbane2244]

psst...[nudges tolkienfan]...he's a deranged lunatic...course he's mean...

anyway, i just saw it a second time last night, and they got the perfect actress for rita skeeter....i wanted to stand up and punch her face on the screen....perfect casting... :D

[tolkienfan]

Well, I guess that is true about Crouch Jr.... Rita Skeeter was pretty good, very annoying.

[Nurvingiel]

They're actually making a spin-off movie: Ron Weasley and the Really Bad Haircut. :D

[Lord Choc Obo]

They're actually making a spin-off movie: Ron Weasley and the Really Bad Haircut. :D
when's it gonna come out?? :D

[durinsbane2244]

psst...choco...i think that was sarcasm...

anyway, did anyone else notice emma watson's eyebrows? eh?

it's like: [>] blah [<] blah [l] blah [>] blah [<] blah

and so on, and so forth, the little shapes being the brows....'tis crazy!

[Finrod Felagund]

The thing I missed the most was Sirius showing up at the end and all the missions/plans that Dumbledore send everyone on.

And Moody turned out better than I expected.

But yeah, it did seem sort of, unfinished.

[durinsbane2244]

i'm sad about the total lack of sirius at all...we couldn't even see his face well! [bothced that, should've been floating and fire, not embers] and next movie he gets bumped off...it's not fair! he's tied for first with DD and SS for me!! wah!!

[tolkienfan]

I did not get the scene where Filch comes running into the Great Hall. How was that crucial to the story?

[Elanor]

That was comic relief! I thought it was funny. :)

Things I liked:
Fred and George-- the age line and "babbling bumbling bunch of baboons".
Cedric-- played the part perfectly, very sympathetic. Died well. ;)
Rita Skeeter-- Miranda Richardson rocks.
Harry-- great reactions to all the special effects, which he couldn't see (Myrtle, Dragon, maze, Priori Incantatem, etc.), and he really held the plot together.
Hermione at the Yule Ball. Her fight with Ron was almost exactly how I imagined it.
Frank Bryce and the Riddle House-- perfect.
Priori Incantatem-- almost perfect. By this I mean that the special effect was almost exactly how it was described in the book (Unlike a certain Patronus in the third film). I did miss the Phoenix song, though, and it wouldn't have taken long for Dumbledore to explain that it was because they had brother wands, since it was mentioned in the first movie.
The Dark Mark-- great. I was glad they simplified the Barty Crouch, Jr. plot. This way someone who hadn't read the book could at least understand who he was. I didn't really want to see the movie portrayal of a drunk female house elf anyway...

I did miss the thousand-Galleon prize. How hard would it be to mention that instead of the cheesy "eternal glory" speech? I think it would make Ron's resentment more real, too. They wouldn't even have to explain what Harry did with it-- they could leave that to the fifth movie.

[Lord Choc Obo]

psst...choco...i think that was sarcasm...

psst...durin...I knew that :D

[durinsbane2244]

psst....choco....ok, i thought as soon as i posted that, "hey, maybe choco was just playin along..." but then it was too late...sorry.... :D

anyway, yes, i do think that harry was good, but, apologies, when they did the priori incantatum, he looked kinda silly, hunched over and all with his feet together and such, whereas Voldy looked hardcore, in the fighting stance and one hand and such....oh yea, he's cool...oh, and is he the same actor in PJ's latest flick, KK?

[durinsbane2244]

oh, also, when ron's underwater, he looks like a caveman....just thrown that out there...

[Elanor]

I thought the Gillyweed effect was awesome. And I liked that Neville was the one who told Harry about it-- I always wish Neville was more prominent in the books. Then of course the line he says is great. "I've killed Harry Potter!"

[durinsbane2244]

yes, that made me laugh...OH MY GOD! I'VE KILLED HARRY POTTER! in a foolish, british accent...hehe...yes, that was good...i also liked how he never shut up, "well, there is some debate among herbologists about the different effects of saltwater and freshwater..."

[emily leonard]

i saw it last night and i waz not happy:
why was barty croch at the riddel house ?
harry sould have woken up at the durslys and been colected by fred and gorge as then we find out about there joke shop and we see what sort of stuff they are aming to do.
the quidich world cup was completly messed up there was ment to be a wood where everbody runs to and mugles for the deatheaters to mess with. and barty crouch jr had to have an invisiblility cloke to hide under in the top box. which they diddent go into hence no winki so there is no s.p.e.u.w and that is esentual to the 5 book as they shoud treet kreacher well so he wouldent go to the malfoyes.
and the other schools do get to hogwarts untill the halloween feast not at the start of term.
i could wright a book on everything that was wrong with it but what got 2 me the most was
: moody being made out as being stupid
: everything being missed out and then they added stuff in where it wasent needed e.g the dragon on the roof thing.
: and they left everything unfinished that realy got to me . :(

[Elanor]

s.p.e.u.w.? What's that, the Society for Protection of Elvish Under Wear? ;):p
Sure, all that could have been done, if they wanted to make a movie 5 hours.long...
Trust me, they considered all these things, and they did the best they could.

[The Witch-King of Angmar]

I agree they left alot out, but i think they if they had to leave out sub-plots, at least they focussed on the Voldemort plot.

I liked it better than the 3rd movie. They really screwed that up.

[Elanor]

Yeah, at least they didn't add in stupid stuff like shrunken heads...

[jellyfishannah]

Yeah, at least they didn't add in stupid stuff like shrunken heads...

No kidding!

I went to see Goblet of Fire just the other night. I was very relieved, actually. There were some disappointing things as always but it was much much better than the last one. The 3rd one was almost embarrassing.


It made sense to leave out the s.p.e.w. thing even though leaving anything out makes me sad. Some things in the 4th still bothered me:

1.)They hardly gave Fred and George any of the witty lines that they have in the books. And what about their jokeshop? Ron is supposed to be funny, too but they just make him whiney.

2.) I don't really see why they made Beauxbaton be an all-girls school and Durmstrang an all-boys.

3.)Why didn't they know they were going to the Quidditch Cup? Of course they would know it's coming up!

4.) Ron's brothers were not at the Tournament. Bill was supposed to meet Fleur. Are they going to take that whole thing out? :(

On the whole, the movies are disappointing but it's still fun to watch them. I just wish...I don't know. The books are just so complex and perfect with amazing characters and character development. It's probably impossible for it all to make it on film unscathed.

[Spock]

Well, it seems, artistic license has struck again. Fortunately I have to wait for it to come out on dvd and even then, I ususally can treat film and book as separate entities, each with their own virtues.

[durinsbane2244]

1.)They hardly gave Fred and George any of the witty lines that they have in the books. And what about their jokeshop? Ron is supposed to be funny, too but they just make him whiney.

2.) I don't really see why they made Beauxbaton be an all-girls school and Durmstrang an all-boys.

3.)Why didn't they know they were going to the Quidditch Cup? Of course they would know it's coming up!

4.) Ron's brothers were not at the Tournament. Bill was supposed to meet Fleur. Are they going to take that whole thing out? :(

On the whole, the movies are disappointing but it's still fun to watch them. I just wish...I don't know. The books are just so complex and perfect with amazing characters and character development. It's probably impossible for it all to make it on film unscathed.

beuxbaton was an all girls school, IIRC, and i think they were playing to the russian-esque military-esque thing with durmstrang, and i think when they said, "where're we going", they meant literally where they were headed then, not long term, as they were climbing a hill in the wilderness...

[Elanor]

Durmstrang might have been all boys, but the book mentions boys from Beauxbatons; one of them asks Parvati to dance, I think.

[Linaewen]

I thought the movie was ok, but the omission of so much and the exaggeration of other bits left me deeply dissatisfied. Typically, however, I really liked the special effects. Fred & George were terrific. Anyway, most of the things I was disappointed about have already been discussed so I don't think I'll go into detail about those, except this. Am I the only one who found Voldemort unscary? Sure, he looked a bit freaky but he nonetheless seemed too much like an ordinary wizard (especially with that voice!) to invoke any sense of fear. He did not project the aura befitting a Dark Lord. I almost laughed at him. I think I found Neville scarier than Voldemort. :p

[Elanor]

My sister was completely freaked out by the graveyard scene. She won't even watch it now. But then she gets scared by any remotely scary movie. I'm a little more jaded, at least as to action violence (I don't like horror), so while it did impress me, it didn't actually scare me. I think if I didn't know what was going to happen it would have scared me more.

[durinsbane2244]

maybe it's because i'm not a little girl, but i wasn't that scared...and i've read the book so much...anyway, one thing far from butchered, I LOVED THE APPARITION! IT WAS AWESOME! i was hoping it wouldn't be puff of smoke like dobby, and they didn't let me down...it was tendrils of darkness...sweet..oh, and when Voldie came back...i just love tendrils of darkness...anyway, i was dissapointed they got rid of stupify and just used expelliarmus...

[rohirrim TR]

when is GoF coming out on DVD? the trailers do look pretty cool.

[azalea]

I realised I didn't give my 2 cents on Entmoot about this. I REALLY liked this movie! I thought the pacing was great, and that they did a good job with the translation aside from the few inevitable things (Padma in Gryffindor, Flitwick crowd surfing, Maxime picking something from Hagrid and eating it). Cho's accent surprised me as well, but she was cute.

The two scenes I missed the most were the staircase scene with Harry in his cloak, Moody, Filch, and Snape; and the ending scene in the hospital wing where Ddore confronts Fudge about Voldie's return and assigns tasks to everyone. But I do understand why they couldn't include everything.

I really liked the scene when Harry comes back with Cedric's body. I thought DR did a good job there.

That's basically it! :)

[Spock]

I'm hoping the DVD comes out by June, based upon past releases. Meanwhile, I'll read all your reviews. :)

[azalea]

I'm sure there will be extended/ extra scenes on the dvd, too!

[Radagast The Brown]

Saw it today... it was fine, not too good, too many things unlike the books - I suppose they had to do it, the book is huge. But there were many things I hated that had nothing to do with saving time...
I think the scenes just jumped from one to the other. It was really annoying.. Barty Crouch dead->Harry comes to Dumbledore's office, and I thought he's going to tell him about Crouch like in the book, but then I realized it's the scene with the pensive... weird.
Hated the 'dance' of Durstrang and Beauxbaton, also hated the fact they were all boys all girls... hated the elimination of the house-elves... hated the fact everyone was happy in the end!!! The end should've been sad. Very sad even, at least for Harry Hermione and Ron, and yet for some reason they were happy!!! Voldemort was indeed disappointing. But I suppose that the best they can do... mentioning the polyjuice all the time again ruined the end in a way for those who haven't rea dthe books... and I thought Harry losing consious in the World Cup was silly. I don't like the fact Crouch Junior returns to Azkaban either, becuase then they'll have to show him again next movies when all others will be released. to end this... why did the dragon chased Harry and left her egg volunrable? Where's the sense in that?
And can you believe Dumbledore shouted? :eek:

These are the main points... :) Still for a Harry Potter movie it was okay I guess. I just had more expectations.