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Rían
02-24-2005, 04:59 PM
Wilkie Collins - what a name! A friend of Dickens, and the writer of two great books (IMHO) - The Moonstone, and The Woman in White.

Has anyone read these books?

I just reread WIW and it kept me up late again, even tho I've read it several times. I'm almost done with a reread of TM, and one of my favorite characters in literature is in that book - Betteredge, trusted steward of the house of Lady Verinder.

Both books are in the form of a collection of first-hand descriptions of events that go towards solving a mystery. In each book, a man that loves a woman that is involved, and hurt, by a mystery helps to solve it, and the book is supposedly written to explain how it happened from the viewpoint of those involved. Betteredge is in TM, and is called upon by Mr. Franklin Blake to write an account of the parts that he was involved in, and he is just such a wonderful character, and really funny. I thought I'd put in some of the funny/observant things he says for your enjoyment :) and hopefully to tempt you guys to read the books!

(describing his marriage) : "We were not a happy couple, and not a miserable couple. We were six of one and half a dozen of the other. How it was I don't understand, but we always seemed to be getting, with the best of motives, in one another's way. When I wanted to go upstairs, there was my wife coming down; or when my wife wanted to go down, there was I coming up. That is married life, according to my experience of it. After five years of misunderstandings on the stairs, it pleased an all-wise Providence to relieve us of each other by taking my wife."

(describing Franklin Blake) : "He was, out of all sight (as I remembered him), the nicest boy that ever spun a top or broke a window. Miss Rachel, who was present, and to whom I made that remark, observed, in return, that she remembered him as the most atrocious tyrant that ever tortured a doll, and the hardest driver of an exhausted little girl in string harness that England could produce. 'I burn with indignation, and I ache with fatigue,' was the way Miss Rachel summed it up, 'when I think of Franklin Blake.' "

(wanting a rest after getting the house ready for Mr. Blake) : " ... I fetched up some of our famous Latour claret, and set it in the warm summer air to take off the chill before dinner. Concluding to set myself in the warm summer air next - seeing that was is good for old claret is equally good for old age - I took up my beehive chair to go out into the back court ..."

(on his wife) : "She was more like a fly than a woman; she couldn't settle on anything."

(on Mr. Blake's conflicting educations in different countries) : "It is one of my rules in life, never to notice what I don't understand. I steered a middle course between the Objective side and the Subjective side. In plain English, I stared hard, and said nothing."

(describing the after-dinner entertainment) : "The footman's report was, that the preservation of a respectful composure in the presence of his betters, and the waiting on Mr. Franklin Blake at dinner, were two of the hardest things to reconcile with each other that had ever tried his training in service. Later in the evening, we heard them singing and playing duets, Mr. Franklin piping high, Miss Rachel piping higher, and my lady, on the piano, following them, as it were over hedge and ditch, and seeing them safe through it in a manner most wonderful and pleasant to hear through the open windows, on the terrace at night."

(describing some contradictions that Miss Rachel had) : "Perhaps you think you see a certain contradiction here? In that case, a word in your ear. Study your wife closely, for the next four-and-twenty hours. If your good lady doesn't exhibit something in the shape of a contradiction in that time, Heaven help you! - you have married a monster."

(on his daughter's exuberance) : "Here I should have protested again. But my daughter had got the hairbrush by this time, and the whole strength of her feelings had passed into that. If you are bald, you will understand how she scarified me. If you are not, skip this bit, and thank God you have got something in the way of a defence between your hairbrush and your head."

And I'm still looking for the one where he says he's constitutionally superior to reason ...

sun-star
02-25-2005, 04:19 PM
I think you expected I would post here...

I've actually just re-read The Woman in White as well because I studied it as part of my Victorian Literature course. It's so gripping! I think my favourite thing about both books is the use of successive narratives to tell the story, so you only learn a little bit at a time and it's only at the very end that all the pieces fit together. And the characters reveal themselves so much through their narratives - like Mr Fairlie :D Marion is such a great heroine too.

A cool fact: the idea for The Woman in White supposedly came to Collins because of a real encounter he had with a woman who had escaped imprisonment and bumped into him on a dark night wearing a white dress. But the name for the book apparently came when Collins was staying with Dickens at his house in Broadstairs. He was walking over the cliffs and saw North Foreland lighthouse, and thought how it was like a woman wearing white... Hence the name. North Foreland lighthouse is five minutes from my house :cool: It could be an apocryphal story, but I like it anyway.

(Dickens is our local celebrity - he lived here for years and based several of his locations around my area).

Rían
02-25-2005, 06:16 PM
Mr. Fairlie is a riot! And I love Marion's character - esp. when she is just itching to get revenge on Fosco and can hardly restrain herself, and tells Walter if he has both Fosco and Glyde together and can only save one, don't make it Fosco!

Yes, I like the successive narrative style, and it gives you the additional fun of reading the styles of different characters.

That's fun about living so close to those areas - the lighthouse, etc. :)

Have you read The Moonstone? (edit - rereads post - yes, you have! so what do you think of the Moonstone?)

Mercutio
02-25-2005, 08:50 PM
I recently read the Moonstone and absolutely loved it!

The way the point of view changed was quite interesting...just as you are starting to think one character is the most dependable or unbiased, you hear contradictory evidence coming from someone else. It really keeps you on your toes and considering everyone's situation.

Rían
02-25-2005, 11:40 PM
Yes, doesn't it?!

I think Rachel's telling of the evidence why she thought you-know-who took you-know-what was really well done - how it finally just bursts out in indignation, and her "how could you have expected me to tell you this?!?!?" outburst.

sun-star
02-26-2005, 02:57 PM
I feel so sorry for Rachel, having to live with that secret. It's a pity we don't get to hear her story in her own words very much (same with Laura Fairlie).

Rían
02-28-2005, 02:14 AM
yeah, that had to have been pretty hard on Rachel. I like how her indignation and anger and love are sometimes all in the same sentence!

Good point - that would have been fun "hearing" from Rachel, too! and Laura!