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sun-star
11-16-2004, 05:12 PM
OK, I've seen the 'Men of the Silmarillion' thread. I know Mooters can fangirl like the best of them. So who are your fictional crushes from literature outside JRRT's world?
It's all right, you can admit it. Go on, we won't be judgemental...
BeardofPants
11-16-2004, 05:45 PM
Mr Darcy, and he's mine, so back off! :p
Janny
11-16-2004, 05:48 PM
I have to deal with a gf who likes little ol' Elijah... *sobs*
sun-star
11-16-2004, 06:11 PM
Is Elijah Wood fictional? (serious question)
Come on Janny, who's yours? :evil:
BeardofPants
11-16-2004, 06:13 PM
Wait... Blobbit has a girlfriend? Christ...
Janny
11-16-2004, 06:14 PM
Is Elijah Wood fictional? (serious question)
I thought he was made of cardboard. :confused:
sun-star
11-16-2004, 06:22 PM
Wait... Blobbit has a girlfriend? Christ...
Hard to believe, isn't it? But his girlfriend is an Elijah fan, so what do you expect... :p
Mr Darcy, and he's mine, so back off!
I won't fight you for him :D I don't really get what people like about Darcy. Personally my favourite Austen hero is Henry Tilney, the one no one ever remembers... I get him all to myself...
RÃan
11-16-2004, 06:39 PM
I like Henry Tilney, but I like Darcy better ...
*kicks BOP into the ocean and grabs Darcy*
Hmm, who else? I'll have to think, when I can get my mind off Tuor and Fingon ...
Mercutio
11-16-2004, 07:03 PM
Personally my favourite Austen hero is Henry Tilney, the one no one ever remembers... I get him all to myself...
*ahem*
The first handful aren't in any particular order, but there is a general gist of best to ... still best but not best'est'
Horatio Hornblower (books/movies of same title)
Lord Peter Death Bredon Wimsey (with all his names!)
Gilbert Blythe (Anne of Green Gables books)
Colonel Brandon [hmm? I think I'm falling away from this one now; Henry Tilney is also rising up at the same time]
John Brooke (Little Women)
Rhett Butler (Gone with the Wind) [ah...maybe not]
Kester Woodseaves (Precious Bane)
Mr. Darcy
Mr. Rochester (Jane Eyre) [at least while I'm reading the book; as with Brandon this is falling away]
John Ridd (from Lorna Doone; that movie they made from it was pretty decent)
Bertie Wooster (from books by PG Wodehouse) [and not because I want to reform him or anything]
*note that was an old list I found from a different board. stuff in [ ] is my new notes.
lol I just realized most are English. With some American & Canadians.
:D
sun-star
11-16-2004, 07:08 PM
Someone else likes Bertie Wooster! I thought that was just me being weird (by the way, anyone who's seen Janny and me praising Boris Johnson - Boris is basically an older Bertie. I don't think that's why I like him...)
I agree about Gilbert Blythe, obviously. And until I can make a fuller list of my own, I have two words. Prince. Caspian.
*swoon*
BeardofPants
11-16-2004, 07:37 PM
I won't fight you for him :D I don't really get what people like about Darcy. Personally my favourite Austen hero is Henry Tilney, the one no one ever remembers... I get him all to myself...
Tilney is cool as well. :D
*kicks rian back* :p Mine! Finder's Keepers!
Wayfarer
11-16-2004, 07:51 PM
Sooo... tempting. Must resist the urge to say something really evil.
Mercutio
11-16-2004, 08:05 PM
Someone else likes Bertie Wooster! I thought that was just me being weird (by the way, anyone who's seen Janny and me praising Boris Johnson - Boris is basically an older Bertie. I don't think that's why I like him...)
lol
I have two words. Prince. Caspian.
*swoon*
oh yeah...woah I need to reread that book. Thanks a bunch!
Count Comfect
11-16-2004, 08:40 PM
This male only? Because there are good female characters out there...
always had a crush on Beatrice myself.
Linaewen
11-16-2004, 08:49 PM
Mr Darcy, and he's mine, so back off! :p
I thought you liked Knightley better. :p I want Darcy.
Nurvingiel
11-16-2004, 09:34 PM
Sir Kay! My favourite knight... well... :o (of Arthurian legends)
Oh yeah, it's a fictional crush! :D
Who are these Darcy and Beatrice people! If you name yer crush, at least identify the book. :p
Count Comfect
11-16-2004, 09:52 PM
:) Beatrice is from (in this case) Much Ado About Nothing, William Shakespeare, c. 1599.
As opposed to Dante's.
BeardofPants
11-16-2004, 10:02 PM
I thought you liked Knightley better. :p I want Darcy.
I generally do... I'm just keepin' my options open. :p ;)
Darcy as in Mr. Darcy from Jane Austen's Pride & Prejudice, Nurv...
RÃan
11-17-2004, 02:26 AM
:) Beatrice is from (in this case) Much Ado About Nothing, William Shakespeare, c. 1599.
Oh, cool! I'm just in the middle of MAANothing now :)
Any of you guys out there like any Jane Austen babes?
Draken
11-17-2004, 07:55 AM
From Tolkien, I always had a thing for Arwen - possibly cos she chose love over immortality and I'm a romantic at heart...or maybe cos I recall her being 'the fairest in Middle Earth' and I'm very shallow! The lovely Liv sort of reinforced that crush.
And there was Chani in 'Dune' too (think that's her name).
Nurvingiel
11-17-2004, 11:55 AM
Chani rules!! I haven't seen the movie, but she is so cool in the books. I don't have a crush on her though, only on eligible knights... :o
brownjenkins
11-17-2004, 12:10 PM
galadriel... not the movie one
outside tolkien?
tough call... scout finch from "to kill a mockingbird" is probably my all-time favorite literary female... but she's a bit young in that book... maybe in ten years or so ;)
RÃan
11-17-2004, 12:42 PM
And until I can make a fuller list of my own, I have two words. Prince. Caspian.
*swoon*
*swoons alongside of sun-star*
Nurvingiel
11-17-2004, 12:48 PM
Ummm guys.... wasn't he about 15? :eek:
Scout Finch rules! Maybe a grown-up Scout eh Brownie? :D
sun-star
11-17-2004, 02:44 PM
Ummm guys.... wasn't he about 15? :eek:
Not in the Dawn Treader, I think. He is a bit wussy in Prince Caspian but after that he's all grown up and kingly... And he gets married at the end of DT, so I guess he's only a couple of years older than me.
But RÃ*an's still old enough to be his mother :p
EDIT: Thought of another one - Eugene Wrayburn from Our Mutual Friend. Be patient with me, I'm at an all-girls college :D
RÃan
11-17-2004, 05:04 PM
Not in the Dawn Treader, I think. He is a bit wussy in Prince Caspian but after that he's all grown up and kingly... And he gets married at the end of DT, so I guess he's only a couple of years older than me. You beat me to it - yes, he marries Ramandu's daughter - that hussy! ;)
But RÃ*an's still old enough to be his mother :p But halfelven time, like Narnian time, flows differently .... :D
sun-star
11-17-2004, 05:27 PM
You beat me to it - yes, he marries Ramandu's daughter - that hussy! ;)
Never could tell what he saw in her...
But halfelven time, like Narnian time, flows differently .... :D
If you say so :D
BeardofPants
11-17-2004, 06:36 PM
The Chani in the dune miniseries was WAY too water-fat. :mad: And I will NEVER EVER get over Paul being played by bum-face in the movie. :(
EarthBound
11-18-2004, 08:48 AM
Darcy (JA's novel) is quite a fellow. I also liked Simon from the Dragonbone chair series.
Rosie Gamgee
11-18-2004, 10:13 AM
My Tolkien-crushes are Faramir and Boromir, totally. That's Tolkien, mind you, not Jackson. Although Sean Bean is pretty good as Boromir.
Non-Tolkien include-
Gilbert Blythe (Anne of Green Gables)- so sweet.
Lancelot (Idylls of the King)- what a hunk.
Jack O'Malley (The O'Malley Series)- funny, romantic.
Tavington (The Patriot)- there's something in those beautiful eyes every now and again that tells you he cannot really be evil.
Falagar
11-18-2004, 10:22 AM
Pah, Simon was annoying! :p Never finished that series...
Have missed quite alot of good female characters me thinks...the best tend to be male (...possible I read to many male authors ;)). But Arya must be one of my all-time favorites. And that girl in Hobb's first triology.
EarthBound
11-18-2004, 10:38 AM
Pah, Simon was annoying! :p Never finished that series...
.
It was the book-cover that I fell in love with, Michael Whelan did the art. Simon looks sooo rad holding the white arrow, Thorn (sword), and standing so tall and stern. Ok so it's Whelan's painting I'm in love with.... :p
Draken
11-18-2004, 10:53 AM
Well if we're widening it out to artwork that allows graphic novels - so I'm gonna say Halo Jones. What a gal!
Nurvingiel
11-18-2004, 11:02 AM
Or Goku from DragonBallZ! Erm, never mind that Chi Chi would kick my ass. :o
How much does Goku rule though? How much!! :D
Janny
11-18-2004, 03:47 PM
*rises above unwarented personal attacks on subject of love life*
*notes sun-star's status as single*
You know, maybe I don't read enough, but I've always felt better admiring the individual aspects and traits of real people. Am I alone on this one?
Nurvingiel
11-18-2004, 03:58 PM
Of course not, but we're just having some harmless fun here Janny. :)
Janny
11-18-2004, 04:28 PM
No, no, I'm not knocking it. :) I just meant that I actually find it really hard to be moved by fictional people when the world is so amply populated with real people. I meant to ask if I was alone in not being able to have a fictional (or even celebrity) crush.
:)
RÃan
11-18-2004, 04:49 PM
Ugh - I don't have ANY celebrity crushes!
The fictional crushes are being highly (repeat - HIGHLY) exaggerated for fun :)
Janny
11-18-2004, 05:13 PM
*Shuts up as to not require people to defend themselves :p *
sun-star
11-19-2004, 09:08 AM
a) no, you don't read enough
b) we're kidding :D
EDIT: Also, I would argue that fictional crushes and celebrity crushes aren't really the same thing. All you can know about a celebrity is their image, and so the closest thing to a relationship you can have with them is likely to be your own imaginative construction (not to shatter anyone's dreams here, guys ;)). You don't know anything about who they are, just who you'd like them to be. With fictional characters, on the other hand, you really can get inside their heads. You can follow their experiences, thoughts and development, often over a long period. Most likely you know their interior life better than you know that of a person you've got a crush on in real life. It's impossible for a fictional crush to be entirely physical, as celebrity crushes are - there has to be some element of admiring the character's personality as well. So really it makes more sense to have crushes on fictional characters than on real people you don't know anything about.
Also, this kind of reaction to a character is part of the novel-reading process. Most novels encourage readers to be attracted to their characters, and in some novels you could argue that it's the author's intention for you to fancy their character - Jane Austen wants you as a reader to find Darcy attractive, because otherwise you don't get why Lizzy likes him. L.M. Montgomery wants you to find Gilbert sweet because then not only do you understand why Anne likes him, but you accepts the message she's putting across in the character (he's self-sacrificing and loyal => self-sacrifice and loyalty are good) and you get emotionally involved in the plot because you want Anne and Gilbert to get together. If you don't have strong reactions to the characters, the author's failed to make you believe in them.
It only gets a bit dubious if you know it's against the grain of the novel's intention - as it is with Narnia, I'm afraid. No way did C.S. Lewis want little girls to fall in love with Caspian! But as any lit student will tell you, reading against the grain is seriously fun :D
And as I said, we're only kidding. I didn't mean to write such an essay... but I gave this some thought because it's such a common reader response that it's not really fair to see it as an abnormality, Janny :)
Draken
11-19-2004, 10:41 AM
EDIT: Also, I would argue that fictional crushes and celebrity crushes aren't really the same thing. All you can know about a celebrity is their image, and so the closest thing to a relationship you can have with them is likely to be your own imaginative construction (not to shatter anyone's dreams here, guys ;)). You don't know anything about who they are, just who you'd like them to be. With fictional characters, on the other hand, you really can get inside their heads. You can follow their experiences, thoughts and development, often over a long period. Most likely you know their interior life better than you know that of a person you've got a crush on in real life. It's impossible for a fictional crush to be entirely physical, as celebrity crushes are - there has to be some element of admiring the character's personality as well. So really it makes more sense to have crushes on fictional characters than on real people you don't know anything about.
Also, this kind of reaction to a character is part of the novel-reading process. Most novels encourage readers to be attracted to their characters, and in some novels you could argue that it's the author's intention for you to fancy their character - Jane Austen wants you as a reader to find Darcy attractive, because otherwise you don't get why Lizzy likes him. L.M. Montgomery wants you to find Gilbert sweet because then not only do you understand why Anne likes him, but you accepts the message she's putting across in the character (he's self-sacrificing and loyal => self-sacrifice and loyalty are good) and you get emotionally involved in the plot because you want Anne and Gilbert to get together. If you don't have strong reactions to the characters, the author's failed to make you believe in them.
It only gets a bit dubious if you know it's against the grain of the novel's intention - as it is with Narnia, I'm afraid. No way did C.S. Lewis want little girls to fall in love with Caspian! But as any lit student will tell you, reading against the grain is seriously fun :D
And as I said, we're only kidding. I didn't mean to write such an essay... but I gave this some thought because it's such a common reader response that it's not really fair to see it as an abnormality, Janny :)
And PLUS Halo Jones is quite a cutey. But what you said too...
Trouble is with fictional crushes, while Halo started off being about the same age as me, she's much too young for me now!) :(
sun-star
11-19-2004, 02:47 PM
That was a subtle way of saying 'shut up, sun-star, no one cares', wasn't it? ;) :D
I'm just trying to lecture Janny into agreement :evil:
RÃan
11-19-2004, 02:53 PM
That's a very good point, sun-star - I hadn't thought of it that way before - that we actually DO "know" the fictional character in the sense of we can know his/her "thoughts", so it's not just like a celebrity crush.
katya
11-19-2004, 06:09 PM
Hmm...there's always someone I like in just about every book I read. I like Watsuki's interpretation of Captain Sagara Souzou in Rurouni Kenshin, but he was a real person. I have sort of a thing for him though. I did a picture of him from art and it's been hanging up in either my locker or my room since. (but Goku? That's just too funny!)
I kind of liked Raskolnikov from Crime and Punishment. Is that weird?
I can't think of any more. Oh yeah, except the main character in the story I'm writing. But he's sort of based on someone from real life anyway, so, you know.
Fictional crushed are sort of fun and they just sort of happen, but seriously, you just can't beat those real life guys (or girls).
Draken
11-20-2004, 06:47 AM
That was a subtle way of saying 'shut up, sun-star, no one cares', wasn't it? ;) :D
I'm just trying to lecture Janny into agreement :evil:
Oh sun-star as if I would! I loved your lecture. Just wanted to point out some of us are working at a much shallower level! ;)
~Nolwë~
11-20-2004, 12:32 PM
Even old duffers like me can still have their world rocked by a fantasy character.
Predictably, my heart belongs to Aragorn. [Book or Film interpretation]
He's ruined me for other men.
If a guys's not wearing chainmale and hurling a big old sword around his head, then I'm just not interested.
Unfortunately, you don't get a lot of males who fit that description round my neck of the woods.
katya
11-20-2004, 03:50 PM
And if you did, they'd probably be crazy or nerdy cos-players or something. *sigh* It's too bad.
Forkbeard
11-22-2004, 01:46 PM
Even old duffers like me can still have their world rocked by a fantasy character.
Predictably, my heart belongs to Aragorn. [Book or Film interpretation]
He's ruined me for other men.
If a guys's not wearing chainmale and hurling a big old sword around his head, then I'm just not interested.
Unfortunately, you don't get a lot of males who fit that description round my neck of the woods.
Rosie Cotton for me....book or film version. A nice farm hobbit for me!
Minielin
12-21-2004, 01:25 AM
And until I can make a fuller list of my own, I have two words. Prince. Caspian. *swoon*
Ahem. It's all about Tirian. And Darcy, of course. Also Mr. Knightley from Emma... and Maximillian Morel from The Count of Monte Cristo. Tolkien-wise: Fingon, Maglor, Faramir, and Maedhros.
sun-star
12-22-2004, 08:43 AM
I hope it's not disloyal to Lewis to say so, but Tirian and Caspian are basically the same character anyway... ;)
brownjenkins
12-22-2004, 09:36 AM
cool avatar minielin :D
Minielin
12-22-2004, 04:56 PM
I hope it's not disloyal to Lewis to say so, but Tirian and Caspian are basically the same character anyway... ;)
Perhaps. ;) When people say "Prince Caspian" I tend to think more of the book Prince Caspian as opposed to Voyage of the Dawn Treader, which I mostly associate with Eustace.
cool avatar minielin :D
Thanks very much! I like it. ;)
katya
08-16-2009, 01:09 PM
Nikolai Vsevolodovich Stavrogin. (I like him enough to revive a 4 1/2 year old thread just to say so ;) )
Curufin
08-16-2009, 01:44 PM
Jasper Hale and Eric Northman. ;)
katya
08-16-2009, 05:18 PM
I watched S. Darko the other night and thought of you, Curufin. I bet you can guess why. ;)
GrayMouser
08-18-2009, 05:16 AM
Nikolai Vsevolodovich Stavrogin. (I like him enough to revive a 4 1/2 year old thread just to say so ;) )
So you still think of hm as the bright falcon, and don't think they've turned him into an owl?
Midge
08-18-2009, 09:41 AM
When I was younger, I read the Princess Diaries and really liked Michael. There was this series of books about ancient Celts which had this girl with seven brothers. She also gets married. About four out of the seven brothers I liked and of course, the husband. I never really was a Caspian girl. If books could have fangirls, I would have been one of Tirian's. I can't promise I'll like a movie portraying of him.
I like how most of the people mentioned above are from classical novels. There are a few exceptions, but not many. Lots of Jane Austen.
Or so it seemed to me.
BeardofPants
08-18-2009, 04:02 PM
Pah, Simon was annoying! :p Never finished that series...
Have missed quite alot of good female characters me thinks...the best tend to be male (...possible I read to many male authors ;)). But Arya must be one of my all-time favorites. And that girl in Hobb's first triology.
Simon WAS annoying. I was very disappointed in the series (enjoyed his otherland series more). :(
Arya is awesome.
Curufin
08-19-2009, 02:51 PM
I watched S. Darko the other night and thought of you, Curufin. I bet you can guess why. ;)
Yes, yes I can.
And yes, I own that movie. :D Bought it the day it came out.
katya
08-19-2009, 05:03 PM
So you still think of him as the bright falcon, and don't think they've turned him into an owl?
I like him exactly how he is. He doesn't have to be a bright falcon or anything. Then, I have unfortunate and dangerous taste in men.
GrayMouser
08-20-2009, 09:58 PM
Well, as long as we're going all Dosteovskian here, Nastasya Fillipovna- I go for bad girls a bit myself.
katya
08-21-2009, 09:16 PM
I may have a little crush on Nastasya Fillipovna as well. She's certainly my favorite of Dostoevsky's women, anyway.
Funny, 5 years ago in this thread I apparently liked Raskolnikov. Some things never change, I guess.
GrayMouser
08-24-2009, 01:31 AM
I may have a little crush on Nastasya Fillipovna as well. She's certainly my favorite of Dostoevsky's women, anyway.
Funny, 5 years ago in this thread I apparently liked Raskolnikov. Some things never change, I guess.
Now that's a real bad boy:eek:
Voronwen
08-27-2009, 01:58 PM
Oh what a fun thread! :p I love these threads.
Well, i've done all my swooning on the "Men of the Sil" thread already. I don't remember ever having crushes on fictional characters other than the ones in Tolkien's world. I'm sure i did, but they did not impact me in the same way so i can't remember them. Tolkien's characters are the most 'real' to me in a way that others are not.
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10-18-2015, 11:43 PM
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