Premiere

[Beleg Strongbow]

So when and where will this musical be seen? Any news yet?

[Vadskye]

1. Why did anyone think there would be a musical?
2. Why on EARTH would they make a musical?
3. Was it neccessary to create a forum for 1 post? :P

[Manveru]

good point

[LickTheEnvelope]

Wow... another media outlet that will tarnish the LOTR... I hope this doesn't happen...

If anything is happening I hope it's MGM handing over "The Hobbit" rights to New Line...

[Manveru]

i think i heard somewhere that New Line was buying MGM...
i could be wrong tho

[Elemmírë]

I am seriously hoping this is a joke.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

If you change the menu on the forum page from 100 days to beginning then you'll see more threads about this.

[Nurvingiel]

I am seriously hoping this is a joke.
Nope it's not. And I don't think a musical would be that bad.

I mean, "Camelot" worked as a musical. There were only three main characters, but that's not the point.

I also saw a play of "The Hobbit" and I thought it was great. Of course, it didn't make sense to anyone who didn't read the book first, but that's not the point either. ;)

I think a musical adaptation is the ultimate simplification of a book. But it can work. And it's not like Tolkien doesn't already contain really great lyrics.

[Elemmírë]

If you change the menu on the forum page from 100 days to beginning then you'll see more threads about this.

Thanks, TD. :D

Nope it's not. And I don't think a musical would be that bad.

I mean, "Camelot" worked as a musical. There were only three main characters, but that's not the point.

I also saw a play of "The Hobbit" and I thought it was great. Of course, it didn't make sense to anyone who didn't read the book first, but that's not the point either. ;)

I think a musical adaptation is the ultimate simplification of a book. But it can work. And it's not like Tolkien doesn't already contain really great lyrics.

Nurvs, 3 main characters in LotR... :eek:

You might be right and I hope you're right... but I'm still wary of the whole idea.

I'm a lover of musicals, so I'll try to be optimistic (and still hope that it never comes out).

*sigh* I'm not going to be able to do any work in Japanese class today, cause I'll be too busy trying to figure out what a musical version would look like.

[me9996]

I think this tread is only open becalse it's the only one in this part :( !
(Not to be pessimistic)

Edit: But I am...

[Haradrim]

Yes there will be a musical. they have started rpoduction. it is being made right now as we speak and i heard itll come out nextt year. One good thing is that if it works well and lots of people see it then we could get a new rush of people and that would be cool. My only concern. How are they going to do Hobbits.

[Elemmírë]

My only concern. How are they going to do Hobbits.

Or Elves? Or Balrogs? Or Nazgul on the Bird-things :D ? Or on horseback? Or Mount Doom? Or Moria? Or Caradhras? Or...

You get my point. ;) :D

[Valandil]

As a more recent arrival here, I've asked about this forum in the past as well. As TD says, you'll find that there were numerous other threads, but that the whole thing has been sort of inactive lately.

If I have this right, there was someone seriously hoping to do this musical and they formed a relationship with Entmoot... even paid the costs to keep the MB up for an entire year. This past relationship, and sponsorship assistance, are reasons why the ownership has remained committed to keeping this forum in place. After all, many things lie dormant for years, and then spring back to life...

"From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring!"

;)

[HOBBIT]

OK: so this is the full 411.

yes - as you can see from the front page description, this forum has about 60 threads and over 800 posts.

This forum is about the Musical which can be found on the Tolkien Trail webiste

http://www.tolkientrail.com/theoneringmusical/


There you can find the script, lyrics to songs, etc.

Topics like these keep coming up........ *sigh*

The creator of "The One Ring" Muisical goes by the username Hama or Hama1 here.


He paid for the Tolkien Trail and Entmoot's costs for a full year, or something like that beacause he was so thanful for all the support, hosting, and this forum. I wasn't going to say anything about this, but Valandil already mentioned it.

Basically, no matter how inactive this forum is, Ben won't get rid of it until Hama asks him to get rid of it.

This whole thing died because a different LOTR musical was written and got into gear before this one.

[Manveru]

This forum is about the Musical which can be found on the Tolkien Trail webiste
http://www.tolkientrail.com/theoneringmusical/
There you can find the script, lyrics to songs, etc.


wow i read the synopsis, and that has to be one of the worst adaptations of tolkien ive ever seen, no offense. (ive read a summary of the original scripts of the lotr movies when they were originally going to be 2 movies and they were pretty bad too)

[Nurvingiel]

Were? *not... movie...forum...*

I read part of the synopsis ages ago. Maybe I'll paruse it again.

That's interesting info Hobbit. I hever knew that. Where is Hama these days anyway?

[ItalianLegolas]

i vote against a musical, all i want is the Hobbit and the Silmarillion

[me9996]

1. Why did anyone think there would be a musical?
2. Why on EARTH would they make a musical?
3. Was it neccessary to create a forum for 1 post? :P

You mean Middle Earth

[eyesofsorrow]

A musical? How... disappointing. I mean, that's harder than the movies- you have to have actors and singers- in one! :eek:

[Twista]

3. Was it neccessary to create a forum for 1 post? :P

Lol i tryed arguing that for ages... im sure the post is here somewhere..

http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?t=4722

there you go... my little rant lol.

[Mrs.Gimli]

not J K

[hamaone]

I had heard...seen on the intenet,etc...that there was a production of lord of the rings as a musical opening in london sometime this spring. There was even a website thelordoftheringsmusical.com I signed up for e-mail updates but have recieved none. I owned the first options on the rights to produce a LotR musical but when this group came up with the money I sold my option on the rights back to Tolkien Enterprises.

So I don't know if this production is going forward or not. I do know that I spent over 2 years trying to adapt LotR into a musical. I did it for my own enjoyment. If people don't like it...that is okay...some people have liked it or at least some of it. I literally spent hundreds of hours writing and re0writing the script. I also saw the movies...Some of it was great...some of it sucked....some of it was so far from the source material I could barely recognize it.

As far as my paying the webmaster of this site...yes I did...I didn't do it to keep this forum open...I did it to help keep this site running. It probably would have kept running without me but I think my contribution helped....and if it did great....if people have enjoyed the tolkientrail since then...even better...it is a great site.

I wish I could have seen my work...and it was a lot of work...come to fruition on stage....maybe it will somehow or somewhere....I also apologize for not keeping up with the entmoot forum. I also said in a post long ago that I hoped this would be a forum for the musical until the producers got their website up and running...I don't know that they have.

as far as dwarfs singing...yes they can...as far as the webmaster of this site keeping this forum open...that is up to him. as far as people insulting my talent and my work...well...give it your best shot...that is what it is all about...

Sincerely,

Hama

[Twista]

Well its finally happening then...

The premier is to be in Canada!

The producers wanted it to be in London but there were no large enough theaters availible.

Heard it on the news, however cant seem to find it on the net... the Lotr music is indeed very elusive!

[hamaone]

Twista,

Please update us if you can find the theatre in Canada where it is going to premiere. It will be easier for me to get there than to London.

Hama

[Mercutio]

from a different article: Although it is presumed to be destined eventually for London's West End, it will have its world premiere at the Princess of Wales theatre here with a largely Canadian cast. Rehearsals begin this Oct. 24. Tickets go on sale mid-May. Performances will begin Feb. 2, 2006 with the gala opening performance on March 23.

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TORONTO - The much-anticipated stage adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings trilogy will have its world premiere in Toronto, producers announced in London Tuesday.

The $27-million show, co-produced by Toronto's Mirvish Productions, will open in March 2006 at the Princess of Wales Theatre with a largely Canadian cast, said producer Kevin Wallace, a former Andrew Lloyd Webber collaborator who produced Webber's Jesus Christ Superstar and Sunset Boulevard.

Elijah Wood starred as Frodo in Peter Jackson's 'Lord of the Rings' trilogy. (AP file photo)

With a cast of 50 and elaborate staging, the audience will be "plunged into the events as they happen," said director Matthew Warchus. "We have not attempted to pull the novel towards the standard conventions of musical theatre, but rather to expand those conventions so that they will accommodate Tolkien's material."

The show had been scheduled to debut in London this spring to coincide with the 50th anniversary of the publication of the complete trilogy, The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers and The Return of the King. However, there was no theatre available to accommodate the massive and technically complex three-hour production, producers said. The London debut is now set for fall 2006.

The musical will feature a book and lyrics by Warchus and British playwright Shaun McKenna. The music is by Bollywood composer A.R. Rahman, responsible for the U.K. hit Bombay Dreams, and Finnish group Varttina. Others involved include Saul Zaentz, the producer behind such films as One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest and The English Patient, and Michael Cohl, producer of Spamalot.

In development for the past four years, the show's original cost estimate of about $20 million was touted as the most expensive in the history of British theatre.

Toronto-born composer Howard Shore has been touring the world with his 'Lord of the Rings' symphony.

Tolkien's epic has been the subject of a revival of late, thanks to Peter Jackson's award-winning film trilogy, which has grossed more than $3 billion US worldwide. The final instalment swept the 2004 Academy Awards, including best picture. The Canadian Children's Opera Chorus produced an opera adaptation of Tolkien's The Hobbit last summer and Toronto-born composer Howard Shore, who created the score for Jackson's films, adapted his music into a symphony work entitled The Lord of the Rings: A Symphony in Six Movements for Orchestra and Chorus. The piece has been performed to sold-out audiences around the world.

The musical's Canadian debut is a welcome shot in the arm for Toronto's theatre industry, which has been in the doldrums since a 2003 outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome sent the city's tourism industry into a tailspin.

Since the SARS outbreak, Toronto-based productions of the multiple Tony Award-winning shows Hairspray and The Producers have closed earlier than expected because of weak ticket sales.

[HOBBIT]

i believe the play site is www.lotr.com

[hamaone]

Mercutio, Hobbut et al,

Yes. The link Hobbit posted will take you to the Musical website. It was originally www.lordofringsmusical.com I haven't checked if that will link you to the new site. I found that a google search of lotr+musical+canada brought up 3 or 4 mews stories. http://jam.canoe.ca/Theatre/2005/03/15/961728.html This was one of them.

One of the stories does mention a London opening in the Fall of 2006.

Damn. If I just had had a spare 27 million a year or so ago.

[hectorberlioz]

Nope it's not. And I don't think a musical would be that bad.

I mean, "Camelot" worked as a musical. There were only three main characters, but that's not the point.

I also saw a play of "The Hobbit" and I thought it was great. Of course, it didn't make sense to anyone who didn't read the book first, but that's not the point either. ;)

I think a musical adaptation is the ultimate simplification of a book. But it can work. And it's not like Tolkien doesn't already contain really great lyrics.

Exactly. Many good books, complicated books- have been simplified when re-written for operas or musicals.
I'm not going to expect too much book following (that was for the movies to do), and I expect that seeing Frodo sing and dance will be strange and probably hilarious. I'm looking forward to see what its about though...

[hamaone]

Hector...actually I would hope that the musical does follow the book. Of course a lot will have to be cut out but hopefully they will not add things as Peter Jackson chose to. The musical adaptation that I wrote (not the one being produced) at least tried to do that. It basically hangs on two relationships...the one between Aragorn and Gandalf, and the one between Frodo and Sam. I think if the writers...librettist and lyricist do that then they should be okay.

As far as Frodo dancing? I don't think we will see much dancing in lotr the musical. I think it will be much more like les miserables...no dancing...just incredibly powerful music.

just mho.

[emily leonard]

a musical would b kl dont no how they would pull it of though :rolleyes:

[Manveru]

apparently someone my older sister knew in high school (she graduated in 2000) was called to audition for the part of Pippin, that would be pretty cool

[hectorberlioz]

Hector...actually I would hope that the musical does follow the book. Of course a lot will have to be cut out but hopefully they will not add things as Peter Jackson chose to. The musical adaptation that I wrote (not the one being produced) at least tried to do that. It basically hangs on two relationships...the one between Aragorn and Gandalf, and the one between Frodo and Sam. I think if the writers...librettist and lyricist do that then they should be okay.

As far as Frodo dancing? I don't think we will see much dancing in lotr the musical. I think it will be much more like les miserables...no dancing...just incredibly powerful music.

just mho.
Yours sounds good. has anyone watched the production in london? any news?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Is there any news about where it is playing yet. Is it in London HB, because I'd be interested in seeing it, and thats probably the closest it will come to me.

[hamaone]

Is there any news about where it is playing yet. Is it in London HB, because I'd be interested in seeing it, and thats probably the closest it will come to me.
I think if you go to www.lotr.com you can get the latest news...as I understand it is scheduled to openin Toronto in Febuary of 2006...Yes I have already ordered my tickets for March but I am trying to use some contacts to actually geet opening night tickets...since I did have the idea first if not necessarily best. :p

[Smeagol_fan]

Nope it's not. And I don't think a musical would be that bad.

I mean, "Camelot" worked as a musical. There were only three main characters, but that's not the point.

I also saw a play of "The Hobbit" and I thought it was great. Of course, it didn't make sense to anyone who didn't read the book first, but that's not the point either. ;)

I think a musical adaptation is the ultimate simplification of a book. But it can work. And it's not like Tolkien doesn't already contain really great lyrics.I'm sorry, but I couldn't help but see that you liked the play of "The Hobbit." I saw it and it made me gag. I'm sure the cast and crew all tried their best, but it was a) a bit stupid, b) amazingly lacking in cast members and c) disgustingly bereft of many scenes from the book. Ah well. It might have just been that particular production.
In any case, I think the musical of LotR will be very good. At least for a play based on a series of books like Lord of the Rings. :)