Proudest Moment in Tolkien

[Beor]

Before anyone gets riled up ;), I did a search, and came up with nothing for this. Here's the gist: I am just wondering what yall think is the part of the book that really gets you going, you read it, and its like you are there, like some charactor is right in front of you, and you share in his or her victory, tears of pride and happiness flow forth, and you want to cheer like you are at a Vikings (or some other inferior team, depending on your state, or country ;)) game and they just scored a touchdown.

For me it is in Return of the King, in the Appendicies, actually, when he is describing the line of the Northern Kingdom, when he gets around to saying that Aragorn took the throne and the line of kings was restored, because it seems to me like all the wars and sorrow, and all the struggles in all the books led to that one point, when Aragorn and Arwen wed and the great line of kings was brought together once again.

just wondering. Aack!!!

[Beren3000]

I know what you're talking about, Beor. I've had several moments like these in the books.
Here are some:
-When Gandalf breaks Saruman's staff.
-When Eowyn reveals herself to the witch king
-When Sam carries Frodo up mount Doom
-When Aragorn judges Beregond (you really feel his royalty and power in that part)

[Artanis]

This of Eomer on the Pelennor fields, after Theoden was slain, but before he knew that Aragorn and not the corsairs of Umbar were on board in the approaching ships:Stern now was Éomer’s mood, and his mind clear again. He let blow the horns to rally all men to his banner that could come thither; for he thought to make a great shield-wall at the last, and stand, and fight there on foot till all fell, and do deeds of song on the fields of Pelennor, though no man should be left in the West to remember the last King of the Mark. So he rode to a green hillock and there set his banner, and the White Horse ran rippling in the wind.

Out of doubt, out of dark to the day’s rising
I came singing in the sun, sword unsheathing.
To hope’s end I rode and to heart’s breaking:
Now for wrath, now for ruin and a red nightfall!

These staves he spoke, yet he laughed as he said them. For once more lust of battle was on him; and he was still unscathed, and he was young, and he was king: the lord of a fell people. And lo! even as he laughed at despair he looked out again on the black ships, and he lifted up his sword to defy them.

And Húrin defying Morgoth:
Therefore Húrin was brought before Morgoth, for Morgoth knew that he had the friendship of the King of Gondolin; but Húrin defied him, and mocked him. Then Morgoth cursed Húrin and Morwen and their offspring, and set a doom upon them of darkness and sorrow; and taking Húrin from prison he set him in a chair of stone upon a high place of Thangorodrim. There he was bound by the power of Morgoth, and Morgoth standing beside him cursed him again; and he said: 'Sit now there; and look out upon the lands where evil and despair shall come upon those whom thou lovest. Thou hast dared to mock me, and to question the power of Melkor, Master of the fates of Arda. Therefore with my eyes thou shalt see, and with my ears thou shalt hear; and never shalt thou move from this place until all is fulfilled unto its bitter end.'

And even so it came to pass; but it is not said that Húrin asked ever of Morgoth either mercy or death, for himself or for any of his kin.

And Fingolfin's challenge to Morgoth: In that vast shadow once of yore
Fingolfin stood: his shield he bore
with field of heaven's blue and star
of crystal shining pale afar.
In overmastering wrath and hate
desperate he smote upon that gate,
the Gnomish king, there standing lone,
while endless fortresses of stone
engulfed the thin clear ringing keen
of silver horn on baldric green.
His hopeless challenge dauntless cried
Fingolfin there: 'Come, open wide,
dark king, your ghastly brazen doors!
Come forth, whom earth and heaven abhors!
Come forth, 0 monstrous craven lord,
and fight with thine own hand and sword,
thou wielder of hosts of banded thralls,
thou tyrant leaguered with strong walls,
thou foe of Gods and elvish race!
I wait thee here. Come! Show thy face!'
*sigh*

[The Gaffer]

Good idea for a thread.

I'm beside Artanis on the Pelennor Fields, though there's so much great stuff that I couldn't pull it out of context. When it gets to the end of the chapter, with the recital of those who'd died, you feel like you've been through it yourself.

The passage from the Chamber of Mazarbul to when they escape and throw themselves on the ground weeping is another vivid, emotional wringer (though perhaps not so victorious).

Also the Uruk-Hai, and their pursuit by the Rohirrim. Fantastic writing: economical and fast-paced. Could that be the first time those words have ever been applied to JRRT's work? :D

On first reading, I would have put the destruction of Isengard and Helm's Deep up there too, though they don't have the same resonance on re-reading.

[Maikanarë]

The Scouring of the Shire.

This was too much for Pippin. His thoughts went back to the Field of Cormallen, and here was a squint-eyed rascal calling the Ring-bearer 'little cock-a-whoop'. He cast back his cloak, flashed out his sword, and the silver and sable of Gondor gleamed on him as he rode forward. 'I am a messenger of the King,' he said. 'You are speaking to the King's friend, and one of the most renowned in all the lands of the West. You are a ruffian and a fool. Down on your knees in the road and ask pardon, or I will set this troll's bane in you!' The sword glinted in the westering sun.

[katya]

When Eowyn fought the Witch King- I always get teary eyed there

When Frodo talks back to the wraiths after crossing the ford. He's all tired and sick but still has a bit of spunk! Actually, I just value this part on account of what happened in the movie...

I bet there's lots in the Sil. I just haven't read it yet....poor me...

[Valandil]

The Fields:

Battle of the Pelennor Fields... esp right after what Artanis refers to, when the ships arrive up the Anduin... and you THINK all will now be lost... but it's the heroes, riding to the rescue! :)

The Field of Cormallen... the Great Task has been accomplished, the Great Enemy has been defeated, let the celebration begin! :D

[Beor]

Gaffer: Thanks! I appriciate the compliment, man.

Yall keep reminding me of all these parts, and I happen to agree with all of them, but I also must say, pretty much any part where Theoden does something cool makes me cry. I want to point to him (in the book) and say "thats my boy. Thats my boy " :)

Another part is the account of the city of Gondolin in BOLT 2, and the account of the fall of Gondolin in the same book. Espically when Glorfindel and his people win to the square and reinforce Tuor and the rest, and when the Kings battalion gets into it. It is a very moving story.

[Anglorfin]

All the battle scenes involving the hobbits after the Scouring. It felt like home, but the hobbits finally got a chance to gain the respect they deserved from their own people.

When Sam stands against Shelob and later when he was rescuing Frodo from the Orcs. His description as some type of Elven hero is really moving. While it may not be a fitting description for his stature, it reflects his courage and good will perfectly.

When Feanor swears the oath and names Melkor Morgoth. While not really "good' it was definately a proud moment.

[Rosie Gamgee]

I know these aren't all of them, but here's a few of mine (good topic, btw):

Eowyn revealing herself to the Witch King. Brilliant, perfect, and definately rousing.

Sam telling himself to shut up, because he 'said I'd carry him if it broke my back and my heart and I have to leave everything but my bones behind'. Love that part. Love Sam.

When Pippin sees the White City for the first time. Pretty gripping.

One that steals it all is the part in Moria after Gandalf relieves Pippin of the watch that he (Gandalf) conferred upon him (Pippin) as punishment for tossing the rock down the well. Right after that, when Pippin's about to fall asleep, is this most evocative description of Gandalf lighting his pipe in the dark, and the flicker of him lighting the pipe flashing on his face... that moment I can feel it's so well written.

[Rosie Gamgee]

Oh, and I can't believe I forgot:

Sam's fight with Shelob and Gollum (well, Gollum first, then Shelob). That part is sooooooo great!!!

Right before Frodo ascends Sauron's Road to the Cracks of Doom, when Gollum attacks him. 'If you ever touch me again you yourself will be thrown into the cracks of Fire.' I love that part. I love Frodo's victory over Gollum.

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally posted by Rosie Gamgee
...Right before Frodo ascends Sauron's Road to the Cracks of Doom, when Gollum attacks him. 'If you ever touch me again you yourself will be thrown into the cracks of Fire.' I love that part. I love Frodo's victory over Gollum.

which is exactly what happened anyway.

my moment is the return of gandalf
just when you think all is lost, the captain returns, excellent!

[Ragnarok]

I really like this quote from The Retrun of the King, chapter: The Battle of Pelennor Fields, pg 826. It demonstrates the bravery and courage of Eomer and the Rohirrim.

Then without taking counsel or waiting for the approach of the men of the City, he spurred headlong back to the front of the great host, and blew a horn, and cried aloud for the onset. Over the field rang his clear voice calling: 'Death! Ride, ride to ruin and the world's ending!'

And with that the host began to move. But the Rohirrim sang no more. Death they cried with one voice loud and terrible, and gathering speed like a great tide their battle swept about their fallen king and passed, roaring away southwards.

[Keith K]

For me one of the proudest moments is the scene at the Gate of Minas Tirith when it is broken by the Witch King. All the defenders have fled save Gandalf and Shadowfax. Then a cock crows, the dawn breaks the darkness, and at that very moment horns, horns, blowing in the North...Rohan had come at last.....

[Attalus]

Eowyn's killing of the Witch-King, with her challenge: "You stand between me and my lord and kin. Begone, if you be not deathless! For living or dark undead, I will smite you, if you touch him."

[Elanor the Fair]

Frodo's sacrifice.....

"I tried to save the Shire, and it has been saved, but not for me. It must often be so when things are in danger: some one has to give them up, lose them, so that others may keep them"

[Khamûl]

And Fingolfin's challenge to Morgoth:

In that vast shadow once of yore
Fingolfin stood: his shield he bore
with field of heaven's blue and star
of crystal shining pale afar.
In overmastering wrath and hate
desperate he smote upon that gate,
the Gnomish king, there standing lone,
while endless fortresses of stone
engulfed the thin clear ringing keen
of silver horn on baldric green.
His hopeless challenge dauntless cried
Fingolfin there: 'Come, open wide,
dark king, your ghastly brazen doors!
Come forth, whom earth and heaven abhors!
Come forth, 0 monstrous craven lord,
and fight with thine own hand and sword,
thou wielder of hosts of banded thralls,
thou tyrant leaguered with strong walls,
thou foe of Gods and elvish race!
I wait thee here. Come! Show thy face!'

*sigh*I'd have to say that's probably mine. I love the whole description in the Sil where it seemed to Fingolfin that he "beheld the utter ruin of the Noldor" and rode like Oromë looking for Morgoth. (Sorry if I got some of that wrong, it's from memory). I also love the next line, which appears in both the Sil and the Lay. "And Morgoth came."

If there's anything better, it's Theoden's speech right before the Rohirrim charge. He grabs a horn and "blew such a mighty blast upon it that it smote asunder". And then they charge.

Both those parts get me every time.

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

Some parts in particular:
-Conspirancy Unmasked
-Flight to the Ford
-When Merry and Pippin meet Treebeard
-Sam's fight with Shelob
-Slaying of the Witch-King
-Houses of Healing
-Scourging of the Shire

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

These parts I feel sum up what LOTR is all about:

Aragorn deciding Beregonds fate,
Sam defiying his fear and searching for Frodo in Cirth Ungol
The Field of Cormallen.

[Haradrim]

For me the best part is like the first three chapter sof FOTR. You just get a sense of how beautiful it was. And you really understood how the hobbits could be content being seperated from the rest of the world. They were so happy, and ignorant. I just wanted to go live there myself and I still do.

[Elemmírë]

1. Fëanor shutting the door in Morgoth's face.
2. Fingolfin's challenge.
3. Ancalagon the Black destroying Thangorodrim (even if it was unintentional :p )
4. Eówyn revealing herself to the Witch king.
5. Húrin defying Morgoth.

[Pytt]

Well, since I am what I am, I must say when the Eagles brought..gaah, don't remember.. to free.. was it Hurin?.. from Thagorodrim.
Eowyn yes. I'll second that.
When Luthien makes Morgoth sleep.
I don't remember clearly what Fingolfins challenge was, but Ellie has it on her list, so I put it up :p

[Elemmírë]

Well, since I am what I am, I must say when the Eagles brought..gaah, don't remember.. to free.. was it Hurin?.. from Thagorodrim.
Eowyn yes. I'll second that.
When Luthien makes Morgoth sleep.
I don't remember clearly what Fingolfins challenge was, but Ellie has it on her list, so I put it up :p

Silly, silly! :p

Thorondor helped Fingon rescue Maedhros.

Fingolfin rode up to the gates of Angband and challenged Morgoth to a duel:
His hopeless challenge dauntless cried
Fingolfin there: "Come, open wide,
dark king, your ghastly brazen doors!
Come forth, whom earth and heaven abhors!
Come forth, O monstrous craven lord,
and fight with thine own hand and sword,
thou wielder of hosts of banded thralls
thou tyrant leaguered with strong walls,
thou foe of Gods and elvish race!
I wait thee here. Come! Show thy face!"

That would be the version from the Lays. How could Morgoth refuse after that? :cool: :(

[Embladyne]

I always was really touched by Ulmo's words to Tuor. I think the best version is in UT, and I don't have a copy to quote from....must steal from EL the next time I visit her!
Other moments....Sam fighting Shelob, definitely.


Ah...I found the version I like best....in LTII...Tuor's first veiw of the Sea, and his wandering on the beaches. And his sea longing when Ulmo calls upon him to travel to Gondolin. I know well the love of the sea, having lived beside it most of my life. (and now I'm stuck in the middle of Massachusetts. :()

[Elemmírë]

I think the best version is in UT, and I don't have a copy to quote from....must steal from EL the next time I visit her!

NEVER!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Anyway, I always feel happy when I read the part of the Athrabeth when Finrod starts talking about Arda Envinyanta.

Yeah. I guess pride works. Proud of his wisdom and all around wonderfulness. ;) :p

[Embladyne]

NEVER!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:Meh heh heh!! :evil: you just wait until M&C's.... :p

[tolkienfan]

-Sam carrying Frodo up Mount Doom
-the Charge of the Rohirrim
-the roused Ents marching to Isengard

These parts just bring tears to my eyes. :o

[Embladyne]

-Sam carrying Frodo up Mount Doom
-the Charge of the Rohirrim
-the roused Ents marching to Isengard

These parts just bring tears to my eyes. :oAh, yes. There are just SO many strongly emotional parts of Tolkien.

[Pytt]

Silly, silly! :p

Thorondor helped Fingon rescue Maedhros.

Fingolfin rode up to the gates of Angband and challenged Morgoth to a duel:


That would be the version from the Lays. How could Morgoth refuse after that? :cool: :(

You think it is so easy to remember one out of all those similar guys? I mean, it was a heck long ago, and besides, I had other thing to care for than remembering who was on my back :rolleyes:

Embladyne.
Yeah, I like Tuor meeting Ulmo very well. It is something with the scene, and the pictures of it I think are fantastic.

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

i was reading the sil this arbo, an i thought of one
(it's a feanor moment, unfortunately)

And he shut the doors of his house on the mightiest of all of those who dwelt in Aman or something like that, when feanor curses morgoth, and shuts the doors in his face

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Yes, I love that part.

[Lenya]

Too late and I'm too tired to think of the proudest, but one of the proudest moments was when the Rohirrim arived at the Pellenor Fields and joined the attack. Man, I wish I could be there with them.

[Akallabeth]

There are so many!
I think The Return of the King is the most emotionally charged of the trilogy.. but my favorites are..

~..The Choices of Master Samwise. I read that chapter... all the time. :D
~..when Merry stabs the Witch King in the knee. It really emphasized the change in his character over time.
~..the creation of Middle Earth in the beginning of the Silmarillion. I just thought that myth was such a beautiful idea for the creation.
~..The Scouring of the Shire, when Merry and Pippin come into their own.

[Rían]

I'm getting goosebumps just reading these posts!!

I agree with most, but not all of these.

another one I haven't seen here - the last bit of the Lay of Lethian when Beren goes to fight the wolf with his bare hands to protect Lúthien...

Too swift for thought his onset came,
too swift for any spell to tame;
and Beren desperate then aside
thrust Lúthien, and forth did stride
unarmed, defenceless to defend
Tinúviel until the end...

[EarthBound]

When the Four hobbits (you know who) return to The Shire wise and brave and stand up to the bullies by uniting the hobbits....then Frodo's appreciation for life...all life during the battle.

[Lenya]

I'm getting goosebumps just reading these posts!!

I agree with most, but not all of these.

another one I haven't seen here - the last bit of the Lay of Lethian when Beren goes to fight the wolf with his bare hands to protect Lúthien...

You can never go wrong with a quote from Lay of Lethian :) Beautiful

[Rían]

Yes, isn't it :)


Yes, EB, I like that part about Frodo, too.