Tuor of Gondolin
05-24-2004, 08:27 PM
I have always been of the impression Caradhras acted as an "independent agent" with generally evil intent. But while there are hints of independent actions by Caradhras the actual evidence in seems ambiguous and there are other passages such as: " 'I wonder if this is a contrivance of the Enemy,'said Boromir. 'They say in my land that he can govern the storms in the Mountains of Shadow that stand upon the borders of Mordor. He has strange powers and many allies.' 'His arm has grown long indeed,' said Gimli, 'if he can draw snow down from the North to trouble us here three hundred leagues away.' 'His arm has grown long,' said Gandalf."
For one, Michael Martinez seems to feel it acts under Sauron's influence
(http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/tolkien/25723
"the snowstorm is one piece of evidence that Sauron is able to work his will hundreds of miles from Mordor."
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But if so, it seems a remarkably sloppy and careless use of power, since the mountain lets them go, to an area somewhat under Saruman's control.
And, of course, we know what PJ's reading is.
If Caradhras is not "activated" and controlled by Sauron, what is the nature and cause of Caradhras's apparent purposeful enmity?
And there are also hints in "The Ring Goes South" of Caradhras not being under Sauron's control or "created" by him.
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""Caradhras was called the Cruel, and had an ill name," said Gimli, "long years ago, when rumour of Sauron had not been heard in these lands."
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Clearly, as a mountain, Caradhras is not "alive" like the Great Eagles, balrogs, dragons, Ishtari, etc., so where would it's seeming intelligence and awareness originate?
One answer, very possibly intended by Tolkien, is that it is one of the mysteries/ambiguities he deliberately put in (like Tom Bombadil). But that needn't stop speculation.:)
From "Letters" #144:
"And even in a mythical Age there must be some enigmas, as there always are. Tom Bombadil is one(intentionally)."
For one, Michael Martinez seems to feel it acts under Sauron's influence
(http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/tolkien/25723
"the snowstorm is one piece of evidence that Sauron is able to work his will hundreds of miles from Mordor."
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But if so, it seems a remarkably sloppy and careless use of power, since the mountain lets them go, to an area somewhat under Saruman's control.
And, of course, we know what PJ's reading is.
If Caradhras is not "activated" and controlled by Sauron, what is the nature and cause of Caradhras's apparent purposeful enmity?
And there are also hints in "The Ring Goes South" of Caradhras not being under Sauron's control or "created" by him.
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""Caradhras was called the Cruel, and had an ill name," said Gimli, "long years ago, when rumour of Sauron had not been heard in these lands."
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Clearly, as a mountain, Caradhras is not "alive" like the Great Eagles, balrogs, dragons, Ishtari, etc., so where would it's seeming intelligence and awareness originate?
One answer, very possibly intended by Tolkien, is that it is one of the mysteries/ambiguities he deliberately put in (like Tom Bombadil). But that needn't stop speculation.:)
From "Letters" #144:
"And even in a mythical Age there must be some enigmas, as there always are. Tom Bombadil is one(intentionally)."