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Last Child of Ungoliant
04-09-2004, 08:08 PM
What do people think of the writings of Jules Verne?

i have just finished reading Journey to the centre of the Earth,
and i think it is a brilliant book.

what does everyone else think?

hectorberlioz
04-09-2004, 11:15 PM
I have four of his books...havent read any of them yet...

Journey to the centre of the earth
Around the world in 80 days
mysterious island
michael strogoff

Artanis
04-10-2004, 02:17 AM
I like the books of Jules Verne. I've read his stories ever since I was first fascinated by the mysterious Captain Nemo as a little girl. The one I like best still is "20.000 Leagues Under the Sea", probably because of nostalgia. :)

Grey_Wolf
04-10-2004, 09:59 AM
The only one I've got is 20 000 leagues under the sea. And it's pretty good.

Radagast The Brown
04-10-2004, 10:36 AM
I read 'The Children of Captain Grante' - I think that's the name of the book. I read it in Hebrew, translated from French ('Les enfants du Captaine Grante'). It was awful. It was really bad, and boring. Perhaps it's only this book - but I didn't try another book that he wrote.

Last Child of Ungoliant
04-10-2004, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
I read 'The Children of Captain Grante' - I think that's the name of the book. I read it in Hebrew, translated from French ('Les enfants du Captaine Grante'). It was awful. It was really bad, and boring. Perhaps it's only this book - but I didn't try another book that he wrote.

generally, his books are very good.

i recommend:
Around the World in 80 Days,
and Journey to the Centre of the Earth

two of his best, in my opinion.:)

Radagast The Brown
04-10-2004, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by Last Child of Ungoliant
generally, his books are very good.

i recommend:
Around the World in 80 Days,
and Journey to the Centre of the Earth

two of his best, in my opinion.:) I heard about both of them. I think I even have Around the World in 80 days - I'm just too lazy to read it. It's probably written in that high language... although it really sghouldn't stop me, because LotR is written this way too... But the other book was just so boring!

I think I'm tempted though, so I'll check it out. :)

brownjenkins
04-10-2004, 08:26 PM
From the Earth to the Moon is another great book by Verne... it is interesting from an early scifi perspective, but is also just a good adventure story

GrayMouser
04-16-2004, 03:45 AM
I dunno- his ideas are great, and the adventure is good, but his writing style is pretty bad, especially if you compare it to H.G. Wells

Earniel
05-02-2004, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by brownjenkins
From the Earth to the Moon is another great book by Verne... it is interesting from an early scifi perspective, but is also just a good adventure story

I have yet to get my hands on it.

I particularly like 20 000 leagues under the sea I remember reading it in bed at night, when I should have been asleep. It wasn't easy getting the book under my pillow fast enough when my mum came to check on me. :p

trolls' bane
08-30-2004, 08:44 PM
I almost started the exact same thread under a different name. I'm reading 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea right now, but Journey to the Center of the Earth is my favorite of his books, and probably my favorite movie.
Edit: What happened to you? It seems like you fell off the face of the earth :D. Were you taken as free prisoners in a submarine, or did you reach the center of the Earth yet? Send me a postcard from Atlantis and the Saknussem ocean :D .

Earniel
08-31-2004, 06:57 AM
[...] but Journey to the Center of the Earth is my favorite of his books, and probably my favorite movie.
Which reminds me of something. When I read 'Journey to the Center of the Earth' my book featured no native inhabitants and lush forests as far as I can remember but the two movie (or mini-series) versions I've seen do. Granted, my 'Journey to the Center of the Earth' was a children's edition book but could it have omitted such a theme?

So I want to know, are there other people underground, apart from the explorers, in the book 'Journey to the Center of the Earth' or aren't there?

trolls' bane
08-31-2004, 06:24 PM
Which reminds me of something. When I read 'Journey to the Center of the Earth' my book featured no native inhabitants and lush forests as far as I can remember but the two movie (or mini-series) versions I've seen do. Granted, my 'Journey to the Center of the Earth' was a children's edition book but could it have omitted such a theme?

So I want to know, are there other people underground, apart from the explorers, in the book 'Journey to the Center of the Earth' or aren't there?
Well, I read a children's version as well, and I'm kinda upset that the library I have that I've been bragging about has every book by verne (except most of them), but not Journey. But in the one I read (the Illustrated Classics Edition), it did mention a nine-ten foot tall man herding some mastadons near the "ocean of the underworld" and the mushroom forest. That I remember.

Earniel
09-02-2004, 05:46 PM
Darn, I don't remember any of that.... :confused: just a spring and a large sea... I think this calls for a re-read.

trolls' bane
09-02-2004, 08:10 PM
You can't have forgotten the gigantic "spiral staircase," and the Hans River which flowed down the center of it for around a hundred miles of so (now that's one long waterfall :eek:), and still continued downward :eek: :D? Or is that the spring you mentioned?

Earniel
09-03-2004, 09:35 AM
You can't have forgotten the gigantic "spiral staircase," and the Hans River which flowed down the center of it for around a hundred miles of so (now that's one long waterfall :eek:), and still continued downward :eek: :D? Or is that the spring you mentioned?
Yes, the Hans river was the spring I mentioned. Named after their guide, right? Can't really remember the spiral staircase but it must have been more than 10 years ago since I last read the book.

tolkienfan
11-22-2004, 11:22 PM
I read Journey to the Center of the Earth, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, and Around the World in Eighty Days. I liked them all, but I thought Around the World in Eighty Days was really good. Out of the ones I've read it's my favorite. I didn't like Journey to the Center of the Earth as much though, I'm not sure why. I liked the movie 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea but it wasn't as good as the book.

Wayfarer
11-23-2004, 02:16 PM
Which reminds me of something. When I read 'Journey to the Center of the Earth' my book featured no native inhabitants and lush forests as far as I can remember but the two movie (or mini-series) versions I've seen do. Granted, my 'Journey to the Center of the Earth' was a children's edition book but could it have omitted such a theme?

Every film version of JttCotE I've seen has been atrociously done. I mean, they've screwed it up on a Jacksonian level. :rolleyes:

On another note, this thread takes me way back. I read the 'Illustrated Classics Edition' series way back in... kindergarten, I think. Wow. :D

Earniel
11-23-2004, 02:48 PM
I just saw a really old movie of 'Journey to the Center of the Earth'. Was major fun. :D And no inhabitants or lush forests down there, only giant mushrooms, a lost city of Atlantis and a batallion of lizard-y monsters. They were nicely done, but not really by the book, as far as I remember the book anyway.

tolkienfan
01-17-2006, 12:43 AM
I've recently read Michael Strogoff and The Mysterious Island. Michael Strogoff was good, but I thought The Mysterious Island was great! And I was only allowed to read two chapters a day :eek: , so it drove me crazy. :mad: :p

Earniel
01-17-2006, 05:50 AM
The Mysterious island was great, I remember reading one chapter a night (when I was supposed to sleep so it had to be done sneakily) when I was young. It was very exciting. And with a nice tie-in to another book at the end.

trolls' bane
01-19-2006, 12:41 AM
The Mysterious island was great, I remember reading one chapter a night (when I was supposed to sleep so it had to be done sneakily) when I was young. It was very exciting. And with a nice tie-in to another book at the end.
Oh, I'm an expert at that. REading sneakily, that is. Those are the nights where I finish an entire novel in one night. Which is quite frequent, btw. My record for a novel was a relatively short one, and it took me an hour and a half.

Curubethion
01-19-2006, 12:53 AM
Jules Verne is a classic author...unfortunately he can tend to get a little dry here and there...but he's still really good. Mysterious Island was really interesting, the way it shone light on Nemo.

Bombadillo
01-19-2006, 01:04 PM
I read 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, but most of the time I was anxious for him to clearly state what the plot was. I didn't notice any conflict in it. It seemed like 95% of the book was about the speaker hanging out in Nemo's sub. And then when it ended suddenly, and accidentally it seemed like, I was furious that I had wasted my time and wondered what made this a literary classic. Now, I think that was probably rash; it's just a different sort of story than I was used to. But since then I haven't gotten around to reading any of his others. Is Around the World in 80 Days very different? ie less dry?

tolkienfan
01-20-2006, 12:40 AM
I don't think Around the World in 80 Days is very dry. The movie wasn't very good though.

Earniel
01-20-2006, 05:38 AM
Oh, I'm an expert at that. REading sneakily, that is. Those are the nights where I finish an entire novel in one night. Which is quite frequent, btw. My record for a novel was a relatively short one, and it took me an hour and a half.
I seldom finished books in one go, wanted to savour them as long as possible. Plus my room was next to my parents and connected through a glasshouse room. They could see my light through my curtains, so I couldn't read too long at night. (Not to mention school started early, yawn.)

Is Around the World in 80 Days very different? ie less dry?
I wouldn't say it was dry, there are some exiting moments, but overall I thought it was a tad dull. It is not my favourite of Verne's writings, actually, I enjoyed 20 000 Leagues a lot more. Even if -at the time of reading- I barely understood anything from Nemo's story. I lacked the historical background info.

trolls' bane
01-21-2006, 05:58 PM
I read 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, but most of the time I was anxious for him to clearly state what the plot was. I didn't notice any conflict in it. It seemed like 95% of the book was about the speaker hanging out in Nemo's sub. And then when it ended suddenly, and accidentally it seemed like, I was furious that I had wasted my time and wondered what made this a literary classic. Now, I think that was probably rash; it's just a different sort of story than I was used to. But since then I haven't gotten around to reading any of his others. Is Around the World in 80 Days very different? ie less dry?
I found it a great book! Well, I must admit that I think Verne spent too much time showing off his knowlege of fish.

Curubethion
01-21-2006, 08:40 PM
You also might have gotten a bad translation of it. There are a few of those.

TomthePilgrim
01-23-2006, 06:42 PM
Jules Verne was the man that opened the way for most of what we know as Science Fiction. His writings led H.G. Wells, Edgar Rice Burroughs, Andre Norton and many others to write speculative fiction.

As to his novels, "Journey to the Center of the Earth" was a hard read for me. Haven't tried it again since I was about 14.

"Twenty Thousand Leagues under the Sea" was my first 'Verne'; bought a copy of a hardbacked Omnibus when I was eleven (my first hardback book - I still have it!). The omnibus also contains "Around the World in Eighty Days", "Journey to the Center of the Earth" and "From the Earth to the Moon".
"The Mysterious Island" is probably my second favorite. However, my favorite 'Verne' (possibly my favorite read period) is . . . . .

"Michael Strogoff"! A must read for anyone reading Jules Verne. No future visions, no technology, just a Courier of the Czar attempting to warn the Grand Duke in Irkutsk of a traitor as the Tartars hordes invade Siberia.

trolls' bane
01-25-2006, 01:30 AM
Jules Verne was the man that opened the way for most of what we know as Science Fiction. His writings led H.G. Wells, Edgar Rice Burroughs, Andre Norton and many others to write speculative fiction.

As to his novels, "Journey to the Center of the Earth" was a hard read for me. Haven't tried it again since I was about 14.

"Twenty Thousand Leagues under the Sea" was my first 'Verne'; bought a copy of a hardbacked Omnibus when I was eleven (my first hardback book - I still have it!). The omnibus also contains "Around the World in Eighty Days", "Journey to the Center of the Earth" and "From the Earth to the Moon".
"The Mysterious Island" is probably my second favorite. However, my favorite 'Verne' (possibly my favorite read period) is . . . . .

"Michael Strogoff"! A must read for anyone reading Jules Verne. No future visions, no technology, just a Courier of the Czar attempting to warn the Grand Duke in Irkutsk of a traitor as the Tartars hordes invade Siberia.
Welcome! I don't beleive we've met. Though I'm not sure whether you're new or not yet...
Journey, a hard read? I finished that in three days! The hard read for me was 20,000. I don't care about the stupid fish, only the ones trying to eat the Nautilus.
Edgar Rice Burroughs! Didn't he write some books on Mars or something? Ka wow!

TomthePilgrim
01-27-2006, 02:12 PM
Howdy, Trolls' bane. I've only been active for about a month.

As to Edgar Rice Burroughs, he wrote the "Tarzan" series, the "John Carter of Mars" books and "The Land that Time Forgot" as well as a number of other novels.


P.S. GO SEAHAWKS!!!!!!!

trolls' bane
01-29-2006, 11:46 PM
Howdy, Trolls' bane. I've only been active for about a month.

As to Edgar Rice Burroughs, he wrote the "Tarzan" series, the "John Carter of Mars" books and "The Land that Time Forgot" as well as a number of other novels.


P.S. GO SEAHAWKS!!!!!!!
I've heard of those Mars books. After all, the city on Chryse Planitia (or was it Isidis? I always mix those two up.) in RGB Mars (actually, just Red and Green Mars) was named after him.
EDIT: Welcome!

Forfirith
02-23-2006, 07:31 AM
I read a lot of his books when I was 10 or so (in french of course) and I loved them.
I don't remember a lot of details of them, except from "Le tour du Monde en 80 jours", "20 000 lieux sous les mers", and a passage of "Michel Stroggof" has chocked me, I can't describe it, but I remember well because of the picture that was with it.

trolls' bane
02-23-2006, 07:51 PM
I read a lot of his books when I was 10 or so (in french of course) and I loved them.
I don't remember a lot of details of them, except from "Le tour du Monde en 80 jours", "20 000 lieux sous les mers", and a passage of "Michel Stroggof" has chocked me, I can't describe it, but I remember well because of the picture that was with it.
Welcome!
It's always interesting to see names of books in another language. Like Le Planet Le Singes.
What's Micel Stroggof?

Forfirith
02-24-2006, 03:52 AM
"Michael Strogoff"! A must read for anyone reading Jules Verne. No future visions, no technology, just a Courier of the Czar attempting to warn the Grand Duke in Irkutsk of a traitor as the Tartars hordes invade Siberia.
That's just a bit higher in the topic :)

trolls' bane
02-24-2006, 08:44 PM
Sounds like absolute Dune to me. :D

IronParrot
07-30-2006, 01:54 PM
I've been thinking about starting to read Verne in French. He seems lucid enough to pick up in the original language. I recently finished Around the World in Eighty Days in English, and decided to coast around Wikipedia afterwards (as I often do for hours on end).

I was very surprised to read this in the Jules Verne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_Verne) entry:
Mercier and subsequent British translators also had trouble with the metric system that Verne used, sometimes simply dropping significant figures, at other times keeping the nominal value and only changing the unit to an Imperial measure. Thus Verne's calculations, which in general were remarkably exact, were converted into mathematical gibberish. Also, artistic passages and whole chapters were cut because of the need to fit the work in a constrained space for publication, regardless of the effect on the plot. (The London author, Cranstoun Metcalfe (1866–1938), translated most of Verne's work into English during the first half of the 20th century.)

For those reasons, Verne's work initially acquired a reputation in English-speaking countries for not being fit for adult readers. This in turn prevented him from being taken seriously enough to merit new translations, leading to those of Mercier and others being reprinted decade after decade. Only from 1965 on were some of his novels re-translated more accurately, but even today Verne's work has still not been fully rehabilitated in the English-speaking world.
I was reading a Puffin edition with an uncredited translation, and even after flipping through it again, I can't tell if it's the one at issue. It certainly didn't seem to reflect these problems, and I'm wondering if any of you have come across the basis for the above claims. Can anyone shed light on this?

Earniel
07-30-2006, 03:50 PM
Indeed curious. I can't help you as I read his books in yet another language and I don't know how that translation fits in. And I never had a head for maths anyway.

But I like the idea of reading his writings in French. I've been trying to find some good books to read and amend my French and I had not considered Jules Verne yet. Might be worth looking into, so thank you for the suggestion.