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kiddstodd
03-20-2004, 02:50 PM
is it true aragorn was raised in rivendell and in his 80s
Jonathan
03-20-2004, 02:55 PM
It is true. In the LotR appendix, you can read that Aragorn was raised in Rivendell, and that he is actually in his 80s in the LotR books.
Sister Golden Hair
03-20-2004, 03:17 PM
Moving to the Lord of the Rings book forum.:)
Ñólendil
03-22-2004, 12:51 AM
Interestingly, if you do the math, you will find that Aragorn was 10 years old and living in Rivendell when Bilbo first visited that valley with Thorin & Company. If Bilbo saw him, he probably mistook him for an Elf-child (it is reported somewhere in the latter History of Middle-earth books that Elven children were nearly indistinguishable from fair Mannish children).
Finrod Felagund
03-22-2004, 11:16 AM
The fact that Aragorn was older than both Theoden and Denethor (both considered "old men") always gets me...but yes, Bilbo's the geezer eh?
Valandil
03-22-2004, 11:26 AM
Aragorn was 'young for his age'... like ME! ;) :p
He lived to the ripe old age of 210... so he was still quite young in his late 80's. He wasn't like other men... his people, the Numenoreans, were gifted with greatly extended life-spans.
Radagast The Brown
03-22-2004, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by Finrod Felagund
The fact that Aragorn was older than both Theoden and Denethor (both considered "old men") always gets me...but yes, Bilbo's the geezer eh? Denethor was older than Aragorn in one year. But it's still amazing nevertheless.
entss89
03-22-2004, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by Jonathan
It is true. In the LotR appendix, you can read that Aragorn was raised in Rivendell, and that he is actually in his 80s in the LotR books.
i have read that there before but i cant quite remember what it said so im gonna go read it again........i think its true though....;)
galadriel
03-23-2004, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Denethor was older than Aragorn in one year. But it's still amazing nevertheless. The comparison between Denethor and Aragorn is an interesting case. Denethor should have looked younger than he did, but the stresses he endured as Steward - I believe using the Palantir was a major factor - left him aged before his time. While Aragorn, it seems, was spectacularly well preserved.
Mrs Maggot
03-25-2004, 10:53 PM
I've alwasy wanted to hear more about what Aragorn did as 'Thorongil'– the name which he used to disguise himself when he worked for Gondor years earlier… there's a bit in the appendices but i suppose that's all I'm ever going to find out about it…
Valandil
03-26-2004, 06:13 AM
Originally posted by galadriel
The comparison between Denethor and Aragorn is an interesting case. Denethor should have looked younger than he did, but the stresses he endured as Steward - I believe using the Palantir was a major factor - left him aged before his time. While Aragorn, it seems, was spectacularly well preserved.
Actually though, there's another reason for it. The northern rangers - at least the line of chieftains - were more long-lived than the men of Gondor at the end of the Third Age. According to Tolkien's notes, as presented in 'Peoples of Middle Earth' - the Stewards just preceding Denethor all lived to be just under 110... while the nearer ancestors of Aragorn whose lives were not cut short lived to be about 155. In the appendices, we're told that Aragorn lived to be 210... so he was still quite young at 87 / 88 - as he is in the story.
Last Child of Ungoliant
04-03-2004, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by Valandil
Actually though, there's another reason for it. The northern rangers - at least the line of chieftains - were more long-lived than the men of Gondor at the end of the Third Age.
i believe this is because those which had the
blood of westernesse in them in gondor had
also mingled in the blood of the lesser races
of men, whilst those of arnor had much
purer numenorean blood
(correct me if i'm wrong, valandil the studier
of the appendices!!)
Thorin II
04-30-2004, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by Mrs Maggot
I've alwasy wanted to hear more about what Aragorn did as 'Thorongil'– the name which he used to disguise himself when he worked for Gondor years earlier… there's a bit in the appendices but i suppose that's all I'm ever going to find out about it…
I've wondered about this, too. Would be interesting!
The Ben
05-05-2004, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Denethor was older than Aragorn in one year. But it's still amazing nevertheless.
Really! what book, chapter did it say that! Thats really interesting!
Valandil
05-06-2004, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by The Ben
Really! what book, chapter did it say that! Thats really interesting!
Appendix B - I think you'll want to look for 2930 and 2931 of the Third Age.
Those two little words after Sam says, 'Well, I'm back.' at the end of the chapter 'The Grey Havens'... you know, the two 3-letter words at the bottom of the page? Well... don't believe them! It's a lie! It is NOT 'the end'! KEEP READING!!! :p :D
BeardofPants
05-06-2004, 01:12 AM
You know how I promised not to pants you Val....? :p *yanks hat down over head* Silly boy. :p
Rosie Gamgee
05-13-2004, 10:34 AM
One thing I find interesting (sorry, I'm mentioning the movies- but in a pro-book statement!) is that if you look in the Appendices (and I forget exactly which one), it so happens that Aragorn's eighty-eighth birthday is the day before the Edorasians (gee, that looks funny) head out for Helm's Deep. In the movies (EE TTT), Aragorn comments to Eowyn on the way to Helm's Deep that he is eighty-seven. Ha! He couldn't remember his own birthday! I think it's pretty funny.
Olmer
05-13-2004, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by Rosie Gamgee
He couldn't remember his own birthday! I think it's pretty funny.
Nothing wrong if man is trying to look a little bit younger...;)
Rosie Gamgee
05-13-2004, 11:01 AM
Look is one thing. He already looked younger. If he wanted to wow her with his age, he might as well have tacked on the extra year.
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