Predictions for books 6 and 7

[crickhollow]

I was listening to GoF in my car yesterday, and I started thinking about the parallel relationships of James Potter and Snape v. Malfoy and Harry.

In book 5 Harry caught a glimpse of his father as a bully. Now he can choose to despise Malfoy as his father despised Snape, or he can (as Dumbledore encourages them to do) reach out to Malfoy in the spirit of unity.

Now, since one of Rowling's key themes in unity and equality amidst diversity, I'm guessing that Harry and Malfoy will succeed where the previous generation failed.

That's all nice and general, so here's something else to go with it: I'm guessing that Harry will accomplish this by saving Malfoy's life, and then (perhaps unexpectedly), Malfoy will die to save Harry.

[gimli7410]

im not sure what to expect, thats why i love these books. all my predictions for ootp were wrong so im not gonna try but just wondering when did you move to washington state:confused:

[Nurvingiel]

I think that Ron and Hermione will start dating. I am not the original author of this theory, many Harry Potter fans think this.

The only way Harry and Malfoy will be friends, or at least not enemies, is if Harry stops taking offence at everything, and Malfoy stops being such a git.

[crickhollow]

Nurvingiel--looking at their two personalities, I would probably say that it wouldn't happen. But looking at Harry and Draco's relationship as the foil for James and Severus, something has to change. And Rowling is skilled enough to make it happen.

Gimli--I'm a border-hopper. I still go to school in BC, but I'm living with my folks in WA.

[Sween]

Ron and Harmonie will get it on at some point. Does anyone else think we will see any of the character have sex in the books? I mean she trying to keep things quite real isnt she (well apart from all the magic and stuff)

Snape or Dumbledor will be the next defence against the darks arts teacher, the time for messing about is simply over. Harry i think will be moved to a moe important role within the wizarding after all he is the boy who lived i thyink we saw in last book him moving to a leader role with the DA meetings and been pretty damn good at it.

I think Harrys gonna bassicallyput the old love life on hold i think he has better things to another reason the old Ron/Harmonie story line will come to the fore.

Lots of people are going to start dieing. I wouldnt be too surprised if some non mentioned characters get killed off eg Harmonies perents and basically any one who is close to harry who they can get. Harry is protected at his Aunts and Uncles but how protected are they? Could the dursleys be killed? (oh what a pity) basically Voldermorts going to go for anyone he can to hurt Harry.

As for the Malfoy story line i cannot see him turning good nessarily i mean hes a little s*** isnt he ast thing he is going to do is save someones life. But i think for his lack of spine we mite see him not been able to go through with things. He is the little school bully that allways hides behind his best mateshes not a doer if you know what i mean i think when push comes to shove Draco unlike his father just wont have the balls to go through with the things hes expected to do for the dark order eg Sirius brother

[Fimbrethil]

I don't know....after the end of the fifth book do you really think that JKR would do that? I mean sure it owuld nice in some perverse way but.......I really would have to say I'd not like it very much. Uniting against a common enemy is all well and good but what are conflicts without complications (conflicts, big problems-Voldemort, complications, little problems-Malfoy). Don't think I've seen much speculation on Lupin so I shall speculate, something's got to happen between those two, I mean Harry saw Sirius as really the only father he's ever really had...now he's gone...and he's pissed at Dumbldore so I really don't hink he'll be asking him for anything anytime soon, so who's left? Lupin.

[Eärloth]

I'm not sure about Harry and Malfoy; because Malfoy's father's a Death Eater, I couldn't honestly tell whether or not [Draco] himself was of good or ill intentions...maybe Harry will grow closer to Snape, although Snape still favours Malfoy...although he can't be worse than UMBRIDGE

[Nurvingiel]

I also think Dumbledore will convince Fred and George to finish school. If not him, then they'll get in trouble with their mum and she'll make them go back. They would still run their business though, grades be damned! :D

[Fimbrethil]

And after everything I've read and heard theorized I think that is the longest shot of all! No offense of course........but lets be reasonable. Nurv that gave me a good laugh.......please don't get mad.

[Nurvingiel]

I'm not mad, Fred and George are hilarious. My theory makes sense, to me if no one else.

[Fimbrethil]

Well, I suppose it does make sense.......in some odd way. But it was just kinda funny thinking about them going back to school.

[thranduil]

I have a suspicioun that Dumbledore may have made a mistake with Snape, with letting him teach and be in the order. I'll put money on it that Snape or Dumbledore dies, most likely Voldemort will kill snape.

[bowntori]

The only thig about book six and seven is that dumbledore will die! more than likely saving harry prompting the scarred magican to tear volde from limb to limb,magicallyn speaking though a good kick in the balls wouldnt go a miss:D

[Nurvingiel]

Or they could both be killed. :(

[crickhollow]

Originally posted by bowntori
The only thig about book six and seven is that dumbledore will die! more than likely saving harry prompting the scarred magican to tear volde from limb to limb,magicallyn speaking though a good kick in the balls wouldnt go a miss:D I think you're right, bowntori. The entire wizarding community has been hiding behind Dumbledore, and it's time for a new leader to emerge. In GoF (and probably elsewhere), Hagrid speculates that they'll be lost if they would ever lose Dumbledore. Voldemort can't be defeated by one person, everyone else relies too heavily on him. They need to be forced to pull together without him.

[Sween]

Originally posted by crickhollow
I think you're right, bowntori. The entire wizarding community has been hiding behind Dumbledore, and it's time for a new leader to emerge. In GoF (and probably elsewhere), Hagrid speculates that they'll be lost if they would ever lose Dumbledore. Voldemort can't be defeated by one person, everyone else relies too heavily on him. They need to be forced to pull together without him.

I think you've missed the point of the whole book Voldermort can be defeated by one man and that man is Harry no one else stands a chance :p

[Lalaith_Elf]

i think that draco will become a death eater for sure - he's too much of a slimy g** (tom feltons own words) to become good, at least for a long period of time.

snape will probably end up being killed by voldy after saving harrys life.

sirius hasn't gone for good - tho this might just be wishful thinking...... :rolleyes:

:D

[crickhollow]

Originally posted by Sween
I think you've missed the point of the whole book Voldermort can be defeated by one man and that man is Harry no one else stands a chance :p fine, alright, but that man is not Dumbledore, and Dumbledore is the one everyone is relying on right now. That has to change. So, either he is going to step back and say, "oh, I think young Potter can take it from here", or he is going to be killed off. Which do you think is more likely? :p

[Lalaith_Elf]

he's gotta be killed off... it'll be the only way to make harry take on voldemort.... unless he pretends to be hurt really badly... but i can't see that happening some how

[Brian]

i think there will be a show down between "YOU-KNOW-WHO"
and harry. also a little more about the twins shop

[sirigorn]

i think there will be a show down between "YOU-KNOW-WHO"and harry. also a little more about the twins shop
definatly.

About the whole Draco thing, Malfoy is a slimy git in the first 5 books, but I kinda think he'll change, now that his fathers not around to influence him anymore.
And I don't think Dumbledore will die. He provides hope and I think that if he's gone, all the hope will go bye-bye. Harry needs some hope to be able to defeat Voldemort. I dont think he could if Dumbledore died.

[Brian]

true. what do you think will happen to the twins shop though???

[Fimbrethil]

Originally posted by sirigorn
[And I don't think Dumbledore will die. He provides hope and I think that if he's gone, all the hope will go bye-bye. Harry needs some hope to be able to defeat Voldemort. I dont think he could if Dumbledore died. [/B]

Didn't you forget HArry's extremely angery with him right now. I think he would be kind of in a way lost a little if Dumbldore died but I really don't think he would stay lost for long and I think he would miss dumbldore if he did die but I really don't thikn his death would affect Harry all that much right now.

[sirigorn]

Didn't you forget HArry's extremely angery with him right now. I think he would be kind of in a way lost a little if Dumbldore died but I really don't think he would stay lost for long and I think he would miss dumbldore if he did die but I really don't thikn his death would affect Harry all that much right now.
I do. I mean, Dumbledore is kind of an idol for Harry.
true. what do you think will happen to the twins shop though???
I don't think it will be important, Harry Ron Hermione and everyone else will get stuff from them in the mail and weird stuff will happen to them like changing into canaries. It won't be a big thing.

[crickhollow]

I agree with sirigorn. Dumbledore's death would be a huge, huge deal for Harry, whether or not he's angry with him.

[Orli17]

I think Mark Evans and Lily Evans were related in some way.....and that Fred & George will be called back to school.

Lupin will teach DADA again
A new character will be introduced again also.....
Percy will not apologize.....i think.......
so many things to htink of....have any of you gone to harrypotter.net and read some fanfics on the Platform 9 3/4 message boards?

[Orli17]

i hope Dumbly- Dorrr(as maxime says) dusn die in teh final showdown...that would really hurt!

[Lalaith_Elf]

It would make sense if he did die. Face facts - he's old, he's not going to be around forever and it'll just get boring if he's always there.

[sirigorn]

Who was Mark Evans, Orli?A new character will be introduced again also..... Oh, definatly. Which book hasn't had a new charcter??
I also think that either DUmbledore or Harry (or both) will turn out to be the Heir of Gryffindor.

[sun-star]

Mark Evans was the kid in Little Whinging Harry said Dudley had beaten up at the beginning of Order of the Phoenix. I agree he'll probably take on some significance in books 6/7.

And I hope there will be some Heir of Gryffindor stuff eventually - we've been expecting it since book 2!

[sirigorn]

Oh yeah... I remember now. I wouldn't be suprised if he was related to Lily. Lily was muggle-born, and Mark is a muggle...

[Goldberry1]

the only thing that i've been speculating about is what are going to be everyone's scores on the O.W.L.s?? :)

[sirigorn]

I think Hermione will get 12 and Harry will get 9 or 10 and Ron will get 8 or 9. (12 is the most you can get, right?)

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by sun-star
And I hope there will be some Heir of Gryffindor stuff eventually - we've been expecting it since book 2!

If there is, I suspect it will be Neville. (I'm not just saying that because he's my favourite character! :D)
I think this because
1) it would be unexpected
2) just because Harry is Voldemort's enemy doesn't necessarily make him Gryffindor's heir. (Unless I'm missing something about James Potter's heritage.)
3) he was the other "choice" for Voldemort's enemy.

[Goldberry1]

that's an interesting theory, Nurvingiel.... one that i may just have to pretend was my own.... ;) just kidding! but i see your logic and i think that's highly possible.

[Nurvingiel]

Lol! :D I don't usually come up with good predictions, so I'm proud of that one. :)

Even if he's not the heir, I'm sure Neville Longbottom will have an important role in the next books.

[Goldberry1]

yeah, definitely. especially after the events of book 5... i hope the D.A. continues, or something of the same sort.

[sirigorn]

Yeah... The DA was cool. I think it'll continue. I just hope that it won't be as needed. In other words, I hope there's a decent DADA teacher.

[sun-star]

Maybe Lupin will come back and teach! I don't expect he will, but it would be cool.

[sirigorn]

He probably won't, but it would be incredibly cool. Werewolf POWER!!!

[Orli17]

Yep! agree to all that!!!

[Elfmaster XK]

As much as I'd like to think there is something in the Malfoy/Harry James/Snape similarity, I don't know how likely it is. Since Harry has now seen what an idiot his father was, he might want to change that, as it was he who declined Malfoy's hand in friendship at the beginning of book I. And that, makes him as equally arrogant as his father. But then, Harry doesn't bully Draco in the same way James did Snape. So maybe there is nothing in that. At the end of OotP Lucius Malfoy will be in prison, so Draco is gonna be really pissed at Harry for that.

'You're going to pay,' said Malfoy, in a voice barely louder than a whisper. 'I'm going to make you pay for what you've done to my father...'

I think that exchange quite clearly shows that Draco has a lot of respect and faith in his father, it's not just Lucius indoctrinating the boy. So I think if there's one thing Harry can count on, it is Draco's continuing anger towards him. He offered his friendship once, he won't do it again, and he won't take it back from Harry either. Having seen James in the pensieve perhaps Harry will now be able to see how his situation is like his father's and will just stop letting Draco get to him. Some good must come of the situation.

Dumbledore cannot die so soon. I agree with Crickhollow. As angry as Harry is that Dumbledore made a big mistake, he will care if Dumnbledore disappears. Plus, Harry has lost both his parents, and the closest thing he has ever had to a father figure, to Voldemort. At the age Harry is he can't control his emotions very well, as we saw when he tried to 'Crucio!' Bellatrix Lestrange. I think he needs Dumbledore as a guide, especilly now he knows that he will be the one who has to kill Voldemort. He is too impulsive, and needs someone there to stop him doing something stupid.

I don't think Mark Evans is going to be significant, because it has been revealed that Petunia is the last living relation of Lily by Dumbledore, and he would know. The only way there could be another was if there was a third Evans sister or a brother, and Dumbledore would know this. Since he doesn't, and insists Petunia is the last, there is no way Mark Evans could be related. Perhaps JKR just couldn't reach her naming dictionary. ;)

Of course this just puts Petunia in danger, and I think Voldemort will try to kill her. If he does the spell will be broken...or so I'd assume.

As for a relationship I think Ron more likely to date Hermione than Harry, because Harry is probably now living in fear of loving anyone at all, they all seem to die. Cho seems to be out of the picture. Ginny is whoring about dating everyone. So I reckon we'll be saved the romance.

General thoughts:
A competant DADA teacher will be found.
Snape will probably die in book 7
Harry needs to prove to Snape he is not like James.
I want to see more happening with neville. Now we know more about him i think he'll be more involved with the story.
Hagrid may well die too.
Fred and George could join the Order of the Pheonix now they've left school. Working in a shop means they'd hear things...know what's going on.


I want Grawp to go away. I didn't like that in book 5.

I think I discussed too much there... :rolleyes:

[Katie of the Golden Wood]

I like the Neville theory. I think he has some bravery in there that no one would expect.

As for Draco, I don't think he's really that bad of a guy. I think his father was a horrible influence on him, but I don't think that its to the point where he can't turn around. He's almost sort of vulnerable right now....he has no father to look up to at the moment, so he's in a position where he could be influence easily. I think its up to Harry, who is getting moodier and moodier, and feeling constantly sorry for himself to reach out to Draco and not just be nasty back. Draco always seems to have self esteem issues....lots of bullies do. If Harry was nice to him, Draco might pull through.

What about Luna Lovegood? What role will she play?

Katie

[Katie of the Golden Wood]

News about Book 6!

JK Rowling recently said ( I read it in the New Jersey Star Ledger this morning) that:

1) Book Six will have some romance for Harry
2) He will go through and "terrible ordeal"

She also said she wasn't ruling out writing a book about adult Harry, though she also said she wanted to try writing in a "completely different genre."

Katie

[sun-star]

Yes, she did a webchat yesterday where she answered a lot of fans' questions :

transcript (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/JKRWorldBookDay2004.html)

Quite enlightening :)

[Goldberry1]

hmm, yes. that chat was quite... well, not informative. mostly just, "you'll find out" and such... though there are a few bits of concrete info. such as this:

Is there going to be a new minister of magic in the next books?
JK Rowling replies -> Yes. Ha! Finally, a concrete bit of information, I hear you cry!

which is promising, if not plainly intriguing!

heehee, now you're all tempted to read the spoiler... :D

[Nurvingiel]

Cathedral: Will we be hearing anything from Sirius Black's brother, Regulus, in future books?
JK Rowling replies -> Well, he's dead, so he's pretty quiet these days. :D Duh!
Debbie: What will Ron's job be when he leaves school?
JK Rowling replies -> Well, assuming he lives to leave school... I'm not going to tell you :) This implies we will find out what they do after they graduate!
Lucy: what happened to worm tale?
JK Rowling replies -> You'll find out in book six.What was Lucy referring to here?
Bobby: Any thoughts about a prequel series?
JK Rowling replies -> No, no prequels here. You won't need them by the time I've finished, you'll have all the back story you'll need! Woohoo! :)

My thought on the article. Thanks for posting that! :)

[sirigorn]

What was Lucy referring to here? I think Lucy was referring to Wormtail. Obviously JKR understood it!!
This implies we will find out what they do after they graduate! Yes, but it also implies that Ron is going to die. NOOOOO!!! You can't kill off Ronniekins!!! He's our ickle Ronnie!! (Ok, maybe he's JK's ickle Ronniekins, but I don't wasnt her to kill him off!!) I told someone that I would throw the book accross the room if he died but then I would go pick it up immediatly to see what happened.

[Katie of the Golden Wood]

Originally posted by sirigorn

Yes, but it also implies that Ron is going to die. NOOOOO!!! You can't kill off Ronniekins!!! He's our ickle Ronnie!! (Ok, maybe he's JK's ickle Ronniekins, but I don't wasnt her to kill him off!!) I told someone that I would throw the book accross the room if he died but then I would go pick it up immediatly to see what happened.

She can't! Ron is the best character in the series! I hope we find out more about James/Sirius/Snape in Book 6

Katie

[Goldberry1]

Originally posted by sirigorn
Yes, but it also implies that Ron is going to die. NOOOOO!!! You can't kill off Ronniekins!!! He's our ickle Ronnie!! (Ok, maybe he's JK's ickle Ronniekins, but I don't wasnt her to kill him off!!) I told someone that I would throw the book accross the room if he died but then I would go pick it up immediatly to see what happened.

well, not necessarily ron... but JKR obviously doesn't want to give anything away, so she's just leaving that option open... at least open to fans' interpretations. :rolleyes:

[sirigorn]

She can't! Ron is the best character in the series! I hope we find out more about James/Sirius/Snape in Book 6 That would be cool. Sirius is my fave character.
well, not necessarily ron... but JKR obviously doesn't want to give anything away, so she's just leaving that option open... at least open to fans' interpretations. Yeah... hopefully he won't die!! But maybe it'll be someone else. :( I don't want most people to die!!

[Lalaith_Elf]

Originally posted by sirigorn
Yeah... hopefully he won't die!! But maybe it'll be someone else. :( I don't want most people to die!!

Some people have to die. After all they are dealing with Voldy. It wouldn't be as effective if she just killed off a few minor characters. I don't know if one of those characters will be Ron - probably not - but I think everyone knows that a few major characters will go. Maybe Harry will go. JK has already said that there will be no books after Hogwarts, and even though she said everything you need to know will be explained, she could be thinking of killing off Harry. Like one of those 'sacrific yourself to save the world' things. Harry and Voldy might have a huge confrontation and after Harry kills Voldy, he dies of extensive wounds or something. It would certanly make dramatic reading.

My dream ending is that Voldy kills everyone and that he rules the wizardy world, and soon to move onto the muggle world. Certainly a plot twister (yes I know it's never going to happen. I'm still bitter at Sirius dying okay!?!:mad: :p ).

[sirigorn]

I said I don't want MOST people to die. I didn't say I didn't want anybody to die. If that happened, Voldy would sure be losing his touch, right? I really think there'll be a lot of people dieing, even though I don't want them too. I mean, Lord Moldy Shorts is openly back, isn't he?

Recently, JKR did say she MIGHT write another book. She said she probably won't, but if she says that she definatly won't, then she'll break that promise. Or something like that. I'm not getting it across the way I want it to...

[Lalaith_Elf]

I think I know what you mean.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean for me to sound like I was saying that you don't want anyone to die - I was just writing my opinion and your quote fitted in nicely with what I was trying to say. That was all.

[sirigorn]

That's okay! :D Sorry I didn't exactly get your message.

[Lalaith_Elf]

Not many people do!;)

[sirigorn]

LOL!! I get you most of the time. I get you in the RPG. You're always clear there...

[Lalaith_Elf]

Glad to hear, that I make sense sometimes.

[Orli17]

I said I don't want MOST people to die. I didn't say I didn't want anybody to die. If that happened, Voldy would sure be losing his touch, right?

JKR would be losing her touch if she killed everyone off!!!!! i think Ron might die. Its a big possiblity seeing that he's Harry's best friend and Voldy always blackmails. But someone important is surely gonna die. New Minister of Magic? that'll be cool!

[sirigorn]

Yes, but if no one died, the JKR would also be losing her touch. It has to be a nice, even balance of people dying and people living. Okay, that was confusing...

[Orli17]

hey we all get confusing once in a while.....if you don't confuse others, then you're not normal .... :D